2010 Headlight Conversion Last Step
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This is correct everything stays factory .my kit same as yours works 100%.but sometime the signal lights stop working I bring it to the shop were he instaled it he say something wrong with this kit .then I got the other kit with new Sam it work good no problems with signal lights .and then I went to dealer to program one of the tech new what's up and he programmed it
#30
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I spent about $55 and just repinned the factory plugs for the new plugs, added a wire on each side to the front SAM, and swapped some pin positions on the M5 / M6 plugs of the SAM for the DRL (had fogs) and the signal control wire to the headlights.
Also I had a problem with the front SAM, so I replaced it.
The coding works like posted, I did mine a bit different, I tossed the new SAM in a donor vehicle and coded it to that, then tossed it in with the donors central gateway, programmed the modules and all is good.
I do have a problem I have to look into, I noticed the front parktronic system does not show up on the display anymore, I will investigate when I have more time, I ma sure it is something simple
I might also replace the headlight switch because I no longer have fogs, but the lights work now so it would be me just being ****
as for the wiring harness, I am sure it would of saved some time, it took me about 5 hours to swap the wires, add pins and a new plug, run a new wire to each side... but I have the pin removal tools and the special crimper, so I might as well get my money out of them
Also I had a problem with the front SAM, so I replaced it.
The coding works like posted, I did mine a bit different, I tossed the new SAM in a donor vehicle and coded it to that, then tossed it in with the donors central gateway, programmed the modules and all is good.
I do have a problem I have to look into, I noticed the front parktronic system does not show up on the display anymore, I will investigate when I have more time, I ma sure it is something simple
I might also replace the headlight switch because I no longer have fogs, but the lights work now so it would be me just being ****
as for the wiring harness, I am sure it would of saved some time, it took me about 5 hours to swap the wires, add pins and a new plug, run a new wire to each side... but I have the pin removal tools and the special crimper, so I might as well get my money out of them
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#31
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Facelift
Everyone who has replaced or is about to replace their headlights with the new 2010 will get them to work......but...message error "Adaptive Headlights Inoper." will come on. All Intelligent Light Control Functions do not work.
No problem, this is the solution. Establish a communication link with Front SAM and Control Light Modules XALWA left,right. To do this you will need a 2010 Central Gateway Module which is located on the bottom of the steering column. I have this , and rent it out if anyone is interested. The other option is to find a 2010 donor car and remove it and place it on yours.
Everything is basically easy. Just replace all the parts with the 2010 and up. 2010 headlights with three modules, 2010 front SAM, and that wiring harness from mastertuning, or sonicms.
Here comes the tricky part. You must leave your side marker lights that came with your car intact. If you remove the bulbs, the IC will say error "side marker lamp,left,right" So just leave them tucked in the new bumper and put some black tape around the bulbs. The car will not notice them missing. The new headlights will flash the turn signal led strip, and so will these. Old system and new working together, no big deal.
The most challenging part is to program the XALWA left,right modules for the headlights to recognize the Intelligent Light Control Functions. If you do not program these, your IC will say "Adaptive Lights Inoperative, Visit Workshop" error message. To do this you will have to replace the Central Gateway Module located on the bottom of the steering column. You will have to remove the Gateway from your car, install a Gateway from a 2010 S-Class.
You will then see all sorts of error messages on the dash, do not worry. Just do coding via SCN. Perform 'Initial Startup' for the XALWA modules, not for the Gateway. The 2010 Gateway will communicate with the 2010 front SAM. Your Gateway is coded for the 2007-2009 modules, it will not establish link with SAM.
Then put back your original Gateway, delete fault memory of all the modules.
Now you are done.
You will need someone with STAR coding, (some merc techs have DAS laptopsee and do outside side work) .Dealers will never attempt anything like this. especially removing a Gateway from a 2010 car and installing it on yours.
So there you have it. This crazy retrofit project solved.
Good luck everyone.
No problem, this is the solution. Establish a communication link with Front SAM and Control Light Modules XALWA left,right. To do this you will need a 2010 Central Gateway Module which is located on the bottom of the steering column. I have this , and rent it out if anyone is interested. The other option is to find a 2010 donor car and remove it and place it on yours.
Everything is basically easy. Just replace all the parts with the 2010 and up. 2010 headlights with three modules, 2010 front SAM, and that wiring harness from mastertuning, or sonicms.
Here comes the tricky part. You must leave your side marker lights that came with your car intact. If you remove the bulbs, the IC will say error "side marker lamp,left,right" So just leave them tucked in the new bumper and put some black tape around the bulbs. The car will not notice them missing. The new headlights will flash the turn signal led strip, and so will these. Old system and new working together, no big deal.
The most challenging part is to program the XALWA left,right modules for the headlights to recognize the Intelligent Light Control Functions. If you do not program these, your IC will say "Adaptive Lights Inoperative, Visit Workshop" error message. To do this you will have to replace the Central Gateway Module located on the bottom of the steering column. You will have to remove the Gateway from your car, install a Gateway from a 2010 S-Class.
You will then see all sorts of error messages on the dash, do not worry. Just do coding via SCN. Perform 'Initial Startup' for the XALWA modules, not for the Gateway. The 2010 Gateway will communicate with the 2010 front SAM. Your Gateway is coded for the 2007-2009 modules, it will not establish link with SAM.
Then put back your original Gateway, delete fault memory of all the modules.
Now you are done.
You will need someone with STAR coding, (some merc techs have DAS laptopsee and do outside side work) .Dealers will never attempt anything like this. especially removing a Gateway from a 2010 car and installing it on yours.
So there you have it. This crazy retrofit project solved.
Good luck everyone.
#33
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How can I make this to go away to I need kit that you are talkin about or coding?
#34
Member
Someone told me that that guy who changed the headlights may have swapped modules from old headlights to these facelift ones and facelift headlights doesnot have adaptive functions and thats why I get these messages on ic have anybody had same problem?
#40
in your position it may cause the problem that your old prefacelift lamps was with turning bulbs and the new is without
i have the same non-led headlights, i will try to put the xenon ballasts from 2006 model. they are bigger but the connector is the same, will need to take plastic borders out from headlight i believe it will work and + there is no needed facelift sam at all, will be very cheap conversion.
i have the same non-led headlights, i will try to put the xenon ballasts from 2006 model. they are bigger but the connector is the same, will need to take plastic borders out from headlight i believe it will work and + there is no needed facelift sam at all, will be very cheap conversion.
#41
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headlights
in your position it may cause the problem that your old prefacelift lamps was with turning bulbs and the new is without
i have the same non-led headlights, i will try to put the xenon ballasts from 2006 model. they are bigger but the connector is the same, will need to take plastic borders out from headlight i believe it will work and + there is no needed facelift sam at all, will be very cheap conversion.
i have the same non-led headlights, i will try to put the xenon ballasts from 2006 model. they are bigger but the connector is the same, will need to take plastic borders out from headlight i believe it will work and + there is no needed facelift sam at all, will be very cheap conversion.
#43
Okay, so after four more hours of testing and troubleshooting it wasn't the kit. One LED (white LEDs) wasn't even plugged in, and the other tested to be faulty; plugged right side in properly, replaced left side, now ALL LIGHTS work correctly.
Now, from what i can gather I need an Adaptive Light Interface for cornering light to work, ILS, and "turn with steering" to work. As of now neither of those features work. Below is are the interface I'm speaking of:
http://carsystems.com.ua/en/intellig...ller-w221.html
I keep referring to the fact the the kit was totally plug and play, included the "black box/ Coded SAM", and has CAN Hi and Lo to communicate with the ILS features ETC. Is this correct, or is the interface still necessary?
Now, from what i can gather I need an Adaptive Light Interface for cornering light to work, ILS, and "turn with steering" to work. As of now neither of those features work. Below is are the interface I'm speaking of:
http://carsystems.com.ua/en/intellig...ller-w221.html
I keep referring to the fact the the kit was totally plug and play, included the "black box/ Coded SAM", and has CAN Hi and Lo to communicate with the ILS features ETC. Is this correct, or is the interface still necessary?
#44
@BkaMrBig
I am using this module and Kabel-Daviko harness. My car is 2008 and already had the new SAM. Everything works ok under Confort or Manual driving mode, but ILS turns inoperative in Sport mode.
Any idea?
PS: Everything means; Bixenon, Nightvision, Corner-light, Curve-light, Highway-mode, City-mode, Fog-mode, position LEDs, Blinking, ...
I am using this module and Kabel-Daviko harness. My car is 2008 and already had the new SAM. Everything works ok under Confort or Manual driving mode, but ILS turns inoperative in Sport mode.
Any idea?
PS: Everything means; Bixenon, Nightvision, Corner-light, Curve-light, Highway-mode, City-mode, Fog-mode, position LEDs, Blinking, ...
#45
I spent about $55 and just repinned the factory plugs for the new plugs, added a wire on each side to the front SAM, and swapped some pin positions on the M5 / M6 plugs of the SAM for the DRL (had fogs) and the signal control wire to the headlights.
Also I had a problem with the front SAM, so I replaced it.
The coding works like posted, I did mine a bit different, I tossed the new SAM in a donor vehicle and coded it to that, then tossed it in with the donors central gateway, programmed the modules and all is good.
I do have a problem I have to look into, I noticed the front parktronic system does not show up on the display anymore, I will investigate when I have more time, I ma sure it is something simple
I might also replace the headlight switch because I no longer have fogs, but the lights work now so it would be me just being ****
as for the wiring harness, I am sure it would of saved some time, it took me about 5 hours to swap the wires, add pins and a new plug, run a new wire to each side... but I have the pin removal tools and the special crimper, so I might as well get my money out of them
Also I had a problem with the front SAM, so I replaced it.
The coding works like posted, I did mine a bit different, I tossed the new SAM in a donor vehicle and coded it to that, then tossed it in with the donors central gateway, programmed the modules and all is good.
I do have a problem I have to look into, I noticed the front parktronic system does not show up on the display anymore, I will investigate when I have more time, I ma sure it is something simple
I might also replace the headlight switch because I no longer have fogs, but the lights work now so it would be me just being ****
as for the wiring harness, I am sure it would of saved some time, it took me about 5 hours to swap the wires, add pins and a new plug, run a new wire to each side... but I have the pin removal tools and the special crimper, so I might as well get my money out of them
Do you have detail instructions for repining connectors and SAM MR6 MR6 slota also what is solution for fogs to DRL?