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Old 04-10-2016, 01:24 AM
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Telematics update cd for my 2007 s550

Originally Posted by bo_jangles View Post
I've heard reliable reports that you can do the maps update and then the telematics update (for 2007 model year cars to the 2008-2009 version of telematics) and it won't matter. In other words, you can update the maps and then the telematics, or you can update the telematics and then the maps.

Unfortunately, I believe the telematics update can only be done by a dealer. It should be easy for them, but they have to let it run for a few hours, so it can cost around $180 (sometimes less) in labor. It's a nice upgrade, however, and is a relatively cheap service for these cars I love the free traffic updates that even the newer cars don't get without a monthly subscription fee.

I have detailed instructions and service documents to help your dealer get the telematics update for 2007 cars. PM me your email address and I can share.
Can you please guide how to do the telematics update for 2007 s550
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Old 04-10-2016, 08:05 PM
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Map upgrade self-install can be done outside of telematics update for 2007-09 for S class at least. Done it myself to test it because there is quite a bit of bad info out there. It takes around 45 minutes to load by my guess. Either take a long a road trip or have a battery tender cranking at 20-30 amps during the process.

The telematics update is the best bang for the buck thing you can do.

Actual programming/firmware update for the telematics is around 30 minutes while it does its thing. Now setting up Xentry/DAS to connect and get to that point ramps it up to an hour. Nothing real magical about it, DAS will tell you the exact CD part number you need (The disc is a CD, not a DVD) that you load in slot 1 if you have a changer. Then off it goes, updates a ton of separate modules in the process. Does a little bar graph display on the main screen in the dash of the progress and what module it is doing.

As for finding the iso telematic image to use with your C3/C4...basically the site is infamous and requires a $10 donation.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:05 AM
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Without Telematics update you will not have birds-eye & RTT.
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bking View Post
It is a DVD that you insert to update the system. Several members of this forum can rent you one. I am quite sure you will be contacted.
Id like to rent the update from whoever has it
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kn51 View Post
Map upgrade self-install can be done outside of telematics update for 2007-09 for S class at least. Done it myself to test it because there is quite a bit of bad info out there. It takes around 45 minutes to load by my guess. Either take a long a road trip or have a battery tender cranking at 20-30 amps during the process.

The telematics update is the best bang for the buck thing you can do.

Actual programming/firmware update for the telematics is around 30 minutes while it does its thing. Now setting up Xentry/DAS to connect and get to that point ramps it up to an hour. Nothing real magical about it, DAS will tell you the exact CD part number you need (The disc is a CD, not a DVD) that you load in slot 1 if you have a changer. Then off it goes, updates a ton of separate modules in the process. Does a little bar graph display on the main screen in the dash of the progress and what module it is doing.

As for finding the iso telematic image to use with your C3/C4...basically the site is infamous and requires a $10 donation.
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how/where do I dl the file? The last time I did this was for my Acura (Pioneer unit). I put the file on a little chip and it was easy. Is this the same process?
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kn51 View Post
Map upgrade self-install can be done outside of telematics update for 2007-09 for S class at least. Done it myself to test it because there is quite a bit of bad info out there. It takes around 45 minutes to load by my guess. Either take a long a road trip or have a battery tender cranking at 20-30 amps during the process.

The telematics update is the best bang for the buck thing you can do.

Actual programming/firmware update for the telematics is around 30 minutes while it does its thing. Now setting up Xentry/DAS to connect and get to that point ramps it up to an hour. Nothing real magical about it, DAS will tell you the exact CD part number you need (The disc is a CD, not a DVD) that you load in slot 1 if you have a changer. Then off it goes, updates a ton of separate modules in the process. Does a little bar graph display on the main screen in the dash of the progress and what module it is doing.

As for finding the iso telematic image to use with your C3/C4...basically the site is infamous and requires a $10 donation.
I just recently updated the firmware in a 2007 W221 that I recently acquired took about 20 minutes tops and was well worth it for the additional features. I did spend some time getting my copy of DAS (2014.12) set up to do offline programming, once i got that done the update was a breeze. I got most of the files from links on the infamous site mentioned.

Today I installed the 2015-2016 map update v14, took about 40 minutes. Popped the DVD in and when the update started went for a drive.
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:49 AM
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One important thing for people searching for this information is that a telematics upgrade does try its best to do online programming. As other have mentioned, there are alternative ways to do it "offline" as there are no flash files that need to be downloaded. You will need a copy of the Telematics CD in the DVD-Changer and do a Control Module Programming on the COMAND in DAS. This is slightly confusing as it updates the firmware on virtually every device on the MOST bus.- SDARS, DVD Changer, COMAND itself, H/K modules, and after every module is complete it will tell you to remove the CD from the DVD Changer. DO NOT DO THIS. It will prompt this after every module update, but it actually is going to start updating the next module and needs the disc in the changer to do so. There will be a very clear message on the COMAND display when it is complete.

DVD-Audio discs should be playable on the 2007 original Telematics software - when you insert a disc, you should see an MLP logo appear while it is reading a CD/DVD. After the Telematics update, you will get updated features in the Navigation functions, and VIDEO will appear next to SYSTEM at the top menu, and allow DVD video discs to be played back while the vehicle is in Park. When taken out of Park, the display blanks with a message stating that the picture is no longer being displayed to prevent driver distraction.

Map updates do take a while to complete, and as a previous poster said, it is probably easier unless you have a well equipped shop, to start the Navigation update and just go for a drive, not shutting the car off until it finishes.

Unfortunately, the 2007-2009 COMAND Map discs are rampant for piracy, so there is little incentive to continue to produce them and the last one has been produced and there will be no additional updates. I think the solution to this is for people to purchase these discs and it will entice the mapping companies to continue producing updates. The DVDs cannot easily be copied due to the non-standard writing method that a PC DVD writer is not capable of, but they are loaned our multiple times and many cars are update using one disc. I like to save money as much as the next person, but this is detrimental to the future of the navigation system of the early W221s.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kgodfrey View Post
The 'update' rominl refers to is a software push, has to be done by the dealer. Some forum members have had success in getting the dealer to do it for free, some have paid a small fee for it. There is a dealer bulletin that advises doing the update under warranty (if you still are...) to resolve a series of issues like Telematics freezing, etc.
My dealer sold me the disc but did the update for nothing. Took about an hour
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Old 07-22-2017, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by flittlejr View Post

My dealer sold me the disc but did the update for nothing. Took about an hour
Yes, the map update is very easy - only time consuming (40-90min in some cases). With the ignition on and engine not running, the W221 can consume 30 amps or more of power, so needless to say it will shut down if a strong charger is not connected while doing the update, or just do the update when you begin a drive you expect to take 40-90 min.

Most battery chargers are not capable of sustaining an output of 30amps,

Dealerships commonly use CTEK similar to this... http://smartercharger.com/products/b...ulti-us-25000/
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Can anyone with an NTG 3.0 V15 disc comment on improvements they have noticed over prior map versions?
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear View Post
Can anyone with an NTG 3.0 V15 disc comment on improvements they have noticed over prior map versions?
Depends on road construction in your area. V14 was them being lazy and selling stale data. V15 (final release) is somewhat old now but closer to the sale date and about 1.25 years newer than V14. If you are looking for new roads from the last two years, you won't find them.

Version 14.0
Purchased April 24, 2015
Map Data December 18, 2013

Version 15.0
Purchased January 28th, 2016
Map Data March 20, 2015

If they continued to make DVDs and sold them for about $25 instead of $250, people would probably buy more and not bother with sharing, etc. For $250 people will just use their phone/tablet for updated maps or "suffer" with old data.
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Originally Posted by bo_jangles View Post
Depends on road construction in your area. V14 was them being lazy and selling stale data. V15 (final release) is somewhat old now but closer to the sale date and about 1.25 years newer than V14. If you are looking for new roads from the last two years, you won't find them.

Version 14.0
Purchased April 24, 2015
Map Data December 18, 2013

Version 15.0
Purchased January 28th, 2016
Map Data March 20, 2015

If they continued to make DVDs and sold them for about $25 instead of $250, people would probably buy more and not bother with sharing, etc. For $250 people will just use their phone/tablet for updated maps or "suffer" with old data.
I strongly agree with the statement about cost. New handheld GPS devices with free lifetime map updates sell for much less than the cost of a single Mercedes update DVD and contain significantly more POIs. Reduce the cost, add more POIs, and release with recent road data andall of us would gladly purchase a new DVD each year.
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Originally Posted by tavolcom9 View Post
I still have the OEM nav dvd / case / original documents (v11 2012) if anyone is interested in it, or borrowing a copy. Located in Orange County, CA but I'm open to shipping. PM me with your email address and I can contact you there. Thanks!
Do u still have it? I need to update on s550. currently, not working at all. My email ADD [email protected]
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