Jason B

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Base-Sedan-4-Door-10-s-63-amg-pano-roof-rear-dvd-ent-nav-backup-camera-white-s-/291053826557?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43c428f1fd&vxp=mtr
Do people typically shy away from these on the used market vs a S550? I've always liked NA engines without turbos. etc. I know it has 60k on it, but a used S550 with 60k on it would be less scary for problems? I'm just trying to understand why it's priced so low.

mb_21

Looks like the second owner didn't do any service. Well there's nothing on the carfax showing any service. That can be scary you don't know what problems this car has.? Plus the miles are high and I know most likely it's out of warranty! This car new is well over $100k so even something simple will be pricey!

There's a 2010 S63 here locally that's selling for $58k with 34k miles. Blk/blk loaded. I think ever since the w222 has hit the streets, prices on the w221 have dropped dramatically.

Quadcammer

read about the potential issues with the NA 6.2 l engine

Mike5215

It's not priced at all. It was an auction and while the bidding got up to $45,100 the minimum reserve wasn't met and the auction ended with no winner. In a reserve auction the seller sets a secret minimum. If the bidding doesn't get up to that minimum before the listing ends, the item doesn't get sold. No way to know what the reserve price was, but it was north of $45,100.

Personally I wouldn't touch a used S63. Mercedes won't even warranty them under CPO and they built the damn things.

Jason B

I was referring to the "buy it now price" for $55k. See original link http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-S63-AMG-PANO-ROOF-REAR-DVD-ENT-NAV-BACKUP-CAMERA-WHITE-S550-S65-E63-CLS63-/291053826557?forcerrptr=true&item=291053826557&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43c428f1fd&nma=true&si=HQnCN7lWPPydWnzp1iN%252FznHo%252Bjo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 And wow on the no cpo!! I had no idea about this. That's scary.

1bad540

Seems anything over 40k miles is relatively cheap.

Mike5215

Got it. The "Buy It Now" option disappears once a bid is placed so the listing when I saw it didn't show the $55k. But yeah, that car should be mid 60's I would think.

Not only will MB not CPO an AMG car, I couldn't find a third party warranty company to touch one at any price.

ajm0623

i don't know where you guys got the idea that benzo wont apply the cpo programme to amg cars. that's just not right. the dealers here in chicagoland have cpo'd amgs for sale and when you check out autotrader - they have them too. where ever you got your information - it is wrong.

WEBSRFR

There are 11 CPO S63 vehicles for sale around where I live...

Mike5215

Got that info from a Mercedes sales guy, for what it's worth. Maybe he was just steering me toward what he had in inventory but I wasn't looking for an AMG car in the first place. Sorry if I posted misinformation.

WEBSRFR

Ah. I usually never believe anything a car salesperson tells me Never trust them and always verify whatever they say... When my dad was shopping for a car, he opened the hood of one car and the fluid levels were really low, when he questioned that the sales guy claimed that it was normal, when you can clearly see the levels are around the "empty" mark.

Jason B

Something else interesting. These S400' with low miles are over $10k cheaper than used S550's. It the S400 a car to stay away from for some reason? I have a friend looking and we can't figure out why they have much lower resale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-4dr-Sdn-S400-Hybrid-RWD-FREE-SHIPPING-CONT-USA-Donohoo-Premium-2-Package-/201024419238?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ecdfd35a6&item=201024419238&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-4dr-Sdn-S400-Hybrid-RWD-FREE-SHIPPING-CONT-USA-Donohoo-Premium-2-Package-/201024418782?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ecdfd33de&item=201024418782&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Mike5215

I guess just the hybrid weirdness factor? I wonder how the diesel S350's do at resale.

USCGTO

really?

There are countless AMG cars all over nation.

C280 Sport

Supply and demand.

Not many people can afford the gas, upkeep, insurance, repairs on a AMG over say a basic C300. That is why you see so many C Classes and not so many S63's driving around. All of this factors into the depreciation of the car. AMG's are not fuel efficient so many people buy the normal MB's instead (CLA or C Class for example). Also they cost some serious money brand new.

Limited market when you think about it.

C280 Sport

There are tons of CPO AMG's and yes third parties to warranty them. There is a E55 for sale that is a 05 or 06 that still has a warranty on it. (3rd Party)

bzliteyear

Hi all,
Sorry if this changes topic, but I'd like everyone's input on this car/warranty topic.
I've been thinking of upgrading my 2005 S600 Sport 70k miles for a 2008 S63(out of warranty). Do you think the S63 will be reliable - I've got 2 more years Fidelity Platinum left on S600, so I'd hate to swap into something that's less reliable.
Patrick

Jason B

Ok, another crazy deal here...

2013 S550, 29k miles, white, black interior, pano, +1. This is a crazy price. Something must be fishy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-S550-13-mercedes-benz-s-class-s-550-29-k-gps-back-cam-xm-sirius-radio-pano-/391072563416?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b0dbdc0d8&item=391072563416&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

DaveW68

Is that a crazy deal? Do you mean price too low or too high? Looks about normal to me. Mileage is on the higher side for a 2 year old car.

ruflife1

Find me the 3rd party warranty company. I've got an 08 S63 with 25k on the odometer and no issues and every 3rd party warranty company won't touch it. All say they will not touch the AMG cars. My previous E55 was CPO'd and aftermarket warranty companies did have programs for those cars. There is something about the W221 AMG the warranty companies don't like. On the flip side, where can you buy the baddest luxo sedan on the planet ( IMHO ) with a original MSRP of $140k for 1/3rd of the original sticker with 25k miles on it? For the price of them, worth keeping a slush fund for repairs as opposed to a warranty.

Jason B

Too low. Look at all the comparables, at least $60k.

Jason B

http://www.endurancewarranty.com/coverage

ruflife1

Checked with them. Won't do w221 AMG.

1bad540

That seems like a sweet deal actually, Benz dealer is def closer to 60k for that car.

snovvman

It does seem cheap-er to me. At the same time, it is not being offered by a M-B dealer, it is not CPO'ed, and it can be "rough" in ways unrevealed. I presume these independent dealers get cars cheaply from auctions and need to turn them over to maintain cash flow.