Upgrading S500 exhaust system
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Upgrading S500 exhaust system
I have S500 with standard exhaust system and would like to upgrade it in the near future. I recently my friends S500 with AMG exhaust and loved the sound of that. It was really aggressive and loud. Not sure if it was standard AMG exhaust or he had done some modifications as the sound was really loud. My friend didn't know as that exhaust was already in the car when he bought it.
Is the AMG exhaust the best option to go or what would you guys recommend? I'm not an expert when it comes to exhaust systems. I would like to get loud and aggressive exhaust sound as well..
Cheers!
Is the AMG exhaust the best option to go or what would you guys recommend? I'm not an expert when it comes to exhaust systems. I would like to get loud and aggressive exhaust sound as well..
Cheers!
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The main problem with S550 exhausts that have been modified with a muffler delete is that they sound great at idle and around town, but at highway speeds they produce an intolerable drone. I'd take a ride with your friend at 80 mph and if it still sounds good, do what he did.
The best option would be to get an actual AMG exhaust for an S63/S65. I understand they run about $1,600 per side ($3,200 total). Sometimes they can be found used on EBay.
The best option would be to get an actual AMG exhaust for an S63/S65. I understand they run about $1,600 per side ($3,200 total). Sometimes they can be found used on EBay.
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The main problem with S550 exhausts that have been modified with a muffler delete is that they sound great at idle and around town, but at highway speeds they produce an intolerable drone. I'd take a ride with your friend at 80 mph and if it still sounds good, do what he did.
The best option would be to get an actual AMG exhaust for an S63/S65. I understand they run about $1,600 per side ($3,200 total). Sometimes they can be found used on EBay.
The best option would be to get an actual AMG exhaust for an S63/S65. I understand they run about $1,600 per side ($3,200 total). Sometimes they can be found used on EBay.
I will have another go at his car. If there's no AMG exhausts on Ebay available what's the best place to find one? Preferably in Europe to save a bit on shipping costs.
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Is this the correct one or is there something missing? Price is only 1310 euros.
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tunin...ust-system.htm
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tunin...ust-system.htm
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Is this the correct one or is there something missing? Price is only 1310 euros.
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tunin...ust-system.htm
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tunin...ust-system.htm
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Yes the partnumber B66032015 is similar to an S63 AMG exhaust. With this exhaust the sound will be the same like before, maybe a little bit louder.
When you want an very loud exhaust, you need this:
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/de/fahrz...lldaempfer.htm
but please note it’s not plug and play, you must do some work on your exhaust.
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I sent an email to them asking if that's the original AMG exhaust. Their reply was:
Yes the partnumber B66032015 is similar to an S63 AMG exhaust. With this exhaust the sound will be the same like before, maybe a little bit louder.
When you want an very loud exhaust, you need this:
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/de/fahrz...lldaempfer.htm
but please note it’s not plug and play, you must do some work on your exhaust.
Yes the partnumber B66032015 is similar to an S63 AMG exhaust. With this exhaust the sound will be the same like before, maybe a little bit louder.
When you want an very loud exhaust, you need this:
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/de/fahrz...lldaempfer.htm
but please note it’s not plug and play, you must do some work on your exhaust.
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With the OEM part you know it's going to be right. There are some clips on YouTube with various S550 aftermarket exhaust sounds.
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That is actually an MB part number. Most parts start with A221 but add-ons and accessories can have a B part number. For example, roof racks and wheels can have those because they may be sold by the dealer or added on as options at the factory.
The part number shows this in the MB pricelist:
Part Number 66032015 Part Name REAR SILENCE MSRP $2,300.00
It is a rear silencer (muffler) and costs $2300US at the dealer.
So I would venture to say it's real. Shipping might be a killer though.
Have you tried a high end exhaust shop in your area? Those guys can draw out a perfect exhaust for you (cats, mufflers, tips) and then go bend it up out of stainless steel in their shop. hey can basically design what you want.
Find a place that does Corvette, MB, BMW exhausts and ask them.
They can make it as loud or quiet as you want. And different sounding however you like.
It will probably be much cheaper than shipping something from Germany that is expensive to begin with.
There's nothing magical about those exhausts.. just a combination of parts & pipes. If you get someone who knows what they're doing, they can build up the same thing or even better.
The part number shows this in the MB pricelist:
Part Number 66032015 Part Name REAR SILENCE MSRP $2,300.00
It is a rear silencer (muffler) and costs $2300US at the dealer.
So I would venture to say it's real. Shipping might be a killer though.
Have you tried a high end exhaust shop in your area? Those guys can draw out a perfect exhaust for you (cats, mufflers, tips) and then go bend it up out of stainless steel in their shop. hey can basically design what you want.
Find a place that does Corvette, MB, BMW exhausts and ask them.
They can make it as loud or quiet as you want. And different sounding however you like.
It will probably be much cheaper than shipping something from Germany that is expensive to begin with.
There's nothing magical about those exhausts.. just a combination of parts & pipes. If you get someone who knows what they're doing, they can build up the same thing or even better.
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Also as another option, have you found any AMG cars in wrecking yards or being parted out (on forums, eBay, etc.)?
That's a good way to get a reasonably priced exhaust. Then you can have it welded/modified at the flange (if that's even required!) to fit your car. It could even just bolt on if you're lucky...
That's a good way to get a reasonably priced exhaust. Then you can have it welded/modified at the flange (if that's even required!) to fit your car. It could even just bolt on if you're lucky...
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Jus wondering why people purchase a car which has as one of its few goals to be as quiet as possible and then attempt to make it loud?
Thats like putting seats from a windstar in my 911...it just doesn't make sense.
Thats like putting seats from a windstar in my 911...it just doesn't make sense.
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That is actually an MB part number. Most parts start with A221 but add-ons and accessories can have a B part number. For example, roof racks and wheels can have those because they may be sold by the dealer or added on as options at the factory.
The part number shows this in the MB pricelist:
Part Number 66032015 Part Name REAR SILENCE MSRP $2,300.00
Have you tried a high end exhaust shop in your area? Those guys can draw out a perfect exhaust for you (cats, mufflers, tips) and then go bend it up out of stainless steel in their shop. hey can basically design what you want.
Find a place that does Corvette, MB, BMW exhausts and ask them.
They can make it as loud or quiet as you want. And different sounding however you like.
It will probably be much cheaper than shipping something from Germany that is expensive to begin with.
There's nothing magical about those exhausts.. just a combination of parts & pipes. If you get someone who knows what they're doing, they can build up the same thing or even better.
The part number shows this in the MB pricelist:
Part Number 66032015 Part Name REAR SILENCE MSRP $2,300.00
Have you tried a high end exhaust shop in your area? Those guys can draw out a perfect exhaust for you (cats, mufflers, tips) and then go bend it up out of stainless steel in their shop. hey can basically design what you want.
Find a place that does Corvette, MB, BMW exhausts and ask them.
They can make it as loud or quiet as you want. And different sounding however you like.
It will probably be much cheaper than shipping something from Germany that is expensive to begin with.
There's nothing magical about those exhausts.. just a combination of parts & pipes. If you get someone who knows what they're doing, they can build up the same thing or even better.
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Well that's your opinion and I respect that but people want different things form their cars.
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I loved floating around in the cloud that was the 220. but I find myself leaving the 221 tranny in "Sport" and double tapping the downshift paddle whenever I feel like passing someone.
I can see wanting to hear more of the engine during spirited driving. As for aftermarket or AMG, I'd go AMG. No guesswork. And while neither exhaust is going to add value to the car, the AMG gear is less likely to hurt it.
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Take a picture under your friend's car and you can some what tell judging by the muffler if its stock or aftermarket. I replaced my stock mufflers with straight pipe, too loud and lots of drone so bought 2 magnaflow mufflers. Great sound on the outside, little rumble on the inside but for the most part its fine on long drives.
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Found this S65 AMG exhaust on German Ebay for 1100 euros. Not a bad price. Sellers says it's an original AMG exhaust why do the exhaust tips look a bit weird to me?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/351066550143?...143%26_rdc%3D1
Shouldn't they look like this?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/351066550143?...143%26_rdc%3D1
Shouldn't they look like this?
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I'm not sure whether to go with rounded or square tips. I think rounded look better but then again square tips are from the facelift model. They should both fit the AMG rear bumper?
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Before I order AMG exhaust I would appreciate getting an answer to one questions.
Should I buy one with rear mufflers and pipes or will just the rear mufflers do the job in terms of sound? Would be much cheaper just to buy the rear mufflers.
Should I buy one with rear mufflers and pipes or will just the rear mufflers do the job in terms of sound? Would be much cheaper just to buy the rear mufflers.
Last edited by Max Gothenburg; May 17, 2014 at 09:25 PM.
