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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 01:55 AM
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Rear end suddenly dropped! Daily driver :/ please help

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Does anyone know This problem and could help me?

I was driving 50 mph and suddenly Saw a bump , i barely Got slowed Down and took The bump Maybe 20 mph.
Right after that, i noticed The rear suspension being rough and very Bouncy, i stopped and checked and The rear end had dropped totally! Both sides
I drove home, and Saw airmatic malfunction light, restarted car, no light, drove slow.
When i drove normal speeds, light Would Come back.
Ive had a kind of noisey air compressor , so i noticed The compressor was NOT working, and The airmatic Rise button Either


I dont Think my pump is dead. Bexause The car has Been driving Great, and The drop Came immidiatley,
Sitting over Night The car has never dropped Low.


Also if The compressor stopped working, i Think it Would take some miles / bumps before The suspension Would drop - and then it Would be all 4 corners dropning Right?

Any help please guys
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:43 AM
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U prob blew an air shock.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1bad540
U prob blew an air shock.
Hey thanks for your reply

If a shock was blown, wouldnt only one side have dropped?
And Would it have dropped Like instantly after i drove over The bump?

Im wondering if i might have broken the height leveling sensor rod
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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yea u know you may have? It is just a ****ty little piece of plastic.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1bad540
yea u know you may have? It is just a ****ty little piece of plastic.
It happended Right after i drove kind of fast over a rather large bump
The Weather Here has Been -6 celcius degrees

Before that i havn had no Signs or indications of a bad strut, only a noisy compressor

If the rear leveling sensor rod has Been damaged, whats the cost of a new one at dealer, and How Many hours of Labour am i looking at?

Thanks :-)!!
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 05:43 PM
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I'm glad this hasn't happened to my wife yet.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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Crawl under the car and look over the rear diff. That's where the sensor and link live. If the rear is like the fronts they pop on and off without tools.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
Crawl under the car and look over the rear diff. That's where the sensor and link live. If the rear is like the fronts they pop on and off without tools.

Ill try that thanks !
Does it Sound Like a sensor?
Or is it possible that it is a strut / compressor? Going over a bump hard and suddenly rear drops immidiatley
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Not to me. The sensor and link are really insulated from the suspension travel. I'd guess the impact caused one or both rear strut air springs to rupture. Probably looking at two rear struts. Don't drive the car if possible. Once the system is "open" the pump will run continuously and burn itself out.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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Not to me. The sensor and link are really insulated from the suspension travel. I'd guess the impact caused one or both rear strut air springs to rupture. Probably looking at two rear struts. Don't drive the car if possible. Once the system is "open" the pump will run continuously and burn itself out.
The pump is NOT running, NOT turning On,
The strut is NOT blown i belive
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 09:26 PM
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If the rear end dropped and the pump is not running you have a blown strut (or two) and a burned out pump, or the pump blew a fuse trying to keep up. If the system is "open" meaning pressurized air is escaping as fast as its being produced, the pump (if it were working) would be running continuously to make up the lost pressurized air.

It needs to be towed to a qualified indie or MB Dealership for analysis ASAP. The dealer will give you a free loaner, not sure about the indie.

Replacement rear strut $541 each at Arnott, compressor is $481. Probably looking at around $2500 out the door if you need both struts and a compressor, plus a 4 wheel alignment. That would be worst case.

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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 10:12 PM
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[QUOTE=Mike5215;6693573]If the rear end dropped and the pump is not running you have a blown strut (or two) and a burned out pump, or the pump blew a fuse trying to keep up. If the system is "open" meaning pressurized air is escaping as fast as its being produced, the pump (if it were working) would be running continuously to make up the lost pressurized air.

It needs to be towed to a qualified indie or MB Dealership for analysis ASAP. The dealer will give you a free loaner, not sure about the indie.

Replacement rear strut $541 each at Arnott, compressor is $481. Probably looking at around $2500 out the door if you need both struts and a compressor, plus a 4 wheel alignment. That would be worst case.[/QUOTE

The pump and airmatic system was working fine, until it barely Got to Brake before a large bump, after The bump, i was driving slow and over The next bump i could feel rear suspension being Extreme hard, i Went out to check car and rear had dropped.
If i blew one or Two rear struts, would The compressor automaticly stop running? Wouldnt that also give me airmatic malfunction light immidiatley and after Every turn OFF / On engine?

Whats Holding the front strut up?

Ive tried once having a front left air strut being malfunctioning solenoid valve, and it needed replacement, but did NOT drop


I found This thread:


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220...-airmatic.html


It Sounds very Much Like my incident.. And it looks Like it Didnt cost more than 200 dollars to fix, could it NOT be possible i have same issue ?
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
If the rear end dropped and the pump is not running you have a blown strut (or two) and a burned out pump, or the pump blew a fuse trying to keep up. If the system is "open" meaning pressurized air is escaping as fast as its being produced, the pump (if it were working) would be running continuously to make up the lost pressurized air.

It needs to be towed to a qualified indie or MB Dealership for analysis ASAP. The dealer will give you a free loaner, not sure about the indie.

Replacement rear strut $541 each at Arnott, compressor is $481. Probably looking at around $2500 out the door if you need both struts and a compressor, plus a 4 wheel alignment. That would be worst case.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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It is what it is, regardless of theory. It needs to get to a shop for diagnosis. Hopefully it's minor but the fact it was fine one minute and not the next is exactly how AirMatic failures present themselves. They can have small leaks forever that the compressor can compensate for and you'd never know, then one day you get the screen of death and you're writing a 4 figure check. Let us know how it works out.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
It is what it is, regardless of theory. It needs to get to a shop for diagnosis. Hopefully it's minor but the fact it was fine one minute and not the next is exactly how AirMatic failures present themselves. They can have small leaks forever that the compressor can compensate for and you'd never know, then one day you get the screen of death and you're writing a 4 figure check. Let us know how it works out.


I found This thread too


Exactly same problem AS mine, rear suddenly dropped and double Bounce felt over speed bump
No reaktion from pump Either
Turned out to be rear axle rod

I Will try find a available workshop tommorow
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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I think i might need a replacement on mine too................ Everytime i go over a bump, i feel it harder on the rear right. Height on the suspension is normal, no error messages, car drives smooth until i get over a bump and you can clearly feel the right rear suspension hitting harder than the left or the two fronts.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by goosesedan
I think i might need a replacement on mine too................ Everytime i go over a bump, i feel it harder on the rear right. Height on the suspension is normal, no error messages, car drives smooth until i get over a bump and you can clearly feel the right rear suspension hitting harder than the left or the two fronts.
Too me your problem Sounds more Like a shock that is going bad or perhaps a carrier link, if you Can afford it easly ; try replacing That shock
A workshop today i spoke to over The phone Said it Sounds Like a broken sensor and that they Are very fragile specially On Winter Weather, and The fact that The compressor stopped working immidiatley and Didnt keep working until it burned out bexause of a fracture On a strut

I have a time tommOrow morning and im crossing fingers that its a sensor and NOT a strut

Sensor Costs 150 dollars at Mercedes? Kinda alot
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
If the rear end dropped and the pump is not running you have a blown strut (or two) and a burned out pump, or the pump blew a fuse trying to keep up. If the system is "open" meaning pressurized air is escaping as fast as its being produced, the pump (if it were working) would be running continuously to make up the lost pressurized air.

It needs to be towed to a qualified indie or MB Dealership for analysis ASAP. The dealer will give you a free loaner, not sure about the indie.

Replacement rear strut $541 each at Arnott, compressor is $481. Probably looking at around $2500 out the door if you need both struts and a compressor, plus a 4 wheel alignment. That would be worst case.

They will also charge for testing the air suspension system. I had mine checked last week and also 4 wheel alignment. I was also in to have all the modules on the car reset and passenger windows reset. My car was in the body shop for 90 days they had the doors off and all and trunk.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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They will also charge for testing the air suspension system. I had mine checked last week and also 4 wheel alignment. I was also in to have all the modules on the car reset and passenger windows reset. My car was in the body shop for 90 days they had the doors off and all and trunk.
If This was my problem , im pretty sure i Would Get airmatic malfunction warning AS soon AS car is start car(Like when my front strut had a broken valve and needed replacement of Whole strut)
But my airmatic light only Came whilst driving; and i belive its bexause The car raises and and Lowers according to speed, and when it Comes up in speed and The rear is NOT responding; it gives airmatic warning.

The compressor stopped working AS soon AS rear dropped.
If a strut blew i belive The compressor would run until it Would burn or Blow a fuse
If my compressor stopped working, and i turn On car, i would Get airmatic malfunction immidiatley? And my front would have dropped slowly aswell , but its up.

Sounds Like a sensor i hope
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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IM pretty sure they will still test the system its pretty standard.
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
Me too. I mean Me too.
Problem diagnosed, it was The rear axle sensor rod that broke loose ; AS i suspected; star Said a problem with sending air to rear / valve block issue; visuel inspektion determined axle rod
Thanks for input
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