S-Class (W221) 2007-2013: S 320 CDI, S 350, S 450, S 500, S 550, S 420 CDI, S 600

7G tronic leaking oil. No level sensor?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 04-05-2017, 03:39 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Simonas.st's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 207
Received 20 Likes on 16 Posts
W221 S500 4matic, W220 S500
7G tronic leaking oil. No level sensor?

Hello,
I've been having leaking transmission, where it meets engine, for I think two years now. I've been solving this problem, by adding fluid, every time, I felt it needs it. Usually every 4 months. I've been doing so, because I was afraid of pulling the gearbox to change the gasket/seal, or whatever is causing the leak. Now I feel, that time is coming, when I have to deal with this issue more seriously. At first, I'm interested, isn't there any sensor, that should tell that transmission is low on oil? Another thing, have anyone tried to pull transmission without dealership involved? I'm quite handy man, and have some trust issues with workshops. I also think, that it's 230000km, maybe it would be time to disassemble transmission and change all seals/gaskets, and whatever needed to run again for 250000km or more, since, I have no plans to sell that car ever.
Thanks.
Old 04-08-2017, 01:24 PM
  #2  
alx
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
alx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,268
Received 248 Likes on 214 Posts
there is no level sensor and if you run dry you will not be notified that oil is low. other bad things will happen, but no error message specifically for low (or overfilled) oil.

adding blindly oil may overfill or starve tranny for oil- both equally bad.

oil level is checked manually by removing the drain plug and observing a dripping of fluid at specific tranny fluid temperature. if nothing comes out - oil is low. if oil comes down in a steady stream- it is overfilled.

it is most likely your tranny input shaft seal. they do go bad and are fairly easy to replace if you remove transmission.
Old 04-08-2017, 01:56 PM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Simonas.st's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 207
Received 20 Likes on 16 Posts
W221 S500 4matic, W220 S500
When I'm filling the oil, I'm doing it in MB shop. They filling it with for e.g. 2 liters, when car is running, disconnecting the pipe and let the oil flow until it stops. I've trusted this, since, no new issues noticed, after doing that for about 2 years.
Yesterday I called workshop, which is working only with automatic transmissions. They told me, that it's very unlikely to be seal,because it rarely happens in MB. They told, that it could be oil pump. Doesn't sound right to me, as I understand pump is inside transmission.
Anyway they've quoted 200Eur to take out and bring back transmission, and 1.5 day. So I'm now wondering, that maybe it's worth trying? Maybe they'll see something more, than I would myself.

Note: I don't know if that could add something to the case, but like 3 years ago, engine was removed to change balancer. Maybe while removing engine, they could damage the seal?
Old 04-08-2017, 02:23 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
ItalianJoe1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 4,037
Received 994 Likes on 766 Posts
2003 CL 600
The seals do leak, it's not super common but it does happen. The front pump is inside the transmission bell housing, right where the torque converter goes in. So it's got a seal that keeps fluid from leaking out.

It's possible they damaged it when removing the transmission if the engine was pulled, but it's also just possible it leaks from age/wear with 200k+ KM on it.
The following users liked this post:
Simonas.st (05-15-2017)

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: 7G tronic leaking oil. No level sensor?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:14 AM.