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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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nothing inside the first 4 years.... another story at 12 years old

its all designed to die to a timeframe NOT mileage
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 02:50 PM
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The w220 were absolute garbage. They do not compare to the w221. Nothing but cheap plastic in the w220. Let’s just try to forget Mercedes even made the w220...the w140 is stated as the most over engineered and true Mercedes.
i wouldnt mind a W140. Especially a S420/S500/S600. But most look worn out, and prices are all over the map, from $5k to $25k. And who knows what wear and tear items need replacing (suspension, bushings, etc etc)

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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 12:43 AM
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nothing inside the first 4 years.... another story at 12 years old

its all designed to die to a timeframe NOT mileage
sorry but thats just not true and I have owned several high end high mileage vehicles.

we get it you had a terrible experience. its unfortunate that it happened but you move on and learn it as a lesson but you are totally incorrect in what you are saying in every shape and form. the car is not designed to self destruct in 4 years nor will that happen.

s classes (w221) i have seen with over 450k miles, I live in NYC the whole TLC uses these cars and there are many many many w221 on the road still.
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 12:46 AM
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also for me this type of thing is a hobby. sometimes it gets very frustrating I will admit but more times than not I enjoy researching/looking up and gain alot of knowledge even though I don't know how to turn a wrench from reading and gaining knowledge has led me to be spot on many diagnosis and repairs. One day I will learn to wrench more when I have even more free time but that is not anytime soon until then I will continue being an "computer educated" mechanic LOL
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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I don't think I had a bad experience, I think I've had a very expected experience.... sadly I was naïve and didn't realise quite how sick the world has become. And that's nothing. As they have been speeding up the process of designed to fail so it comes in sooner and sooner, get on the lease scheme and it'll never get you... try to save money and they win with you buying spares that'll cost more than leasing the better, safer, later one.

They should be admired for their ingenuity (if it wasn't destroying the planet we live on) ... adding the technology is the element of fun keeping most people in the dark and stopping American's getting it fixed under class action law suites... welcome to the party eveyone in Europe has been enjoying.

Of course you could keep throwing money and it'll do more miles... but they worked out how to win there too... with a single roller cam chain and a stupiud stop start to wear out the engine (marketed to you as a way to save the planet..) but really it sells cars at twice the rate. People need to wake up. All I'm trying to do is help others understand what's really been going on in the last 20 years
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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My 2008 runs and drives like a new car and has no problems, and frankly never has. I would buy this S550 all over again in a heartbeat. The 220 I owned, while I liked the car, was a long ways from my W140 but the 221 I believe they made up for the Chrysler mistakes.
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 03:33 PM
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if they were built properly the warranty would be longer and they'd be proud to talk about it
there's a very good reason they don't offer the Toyota 5 year, or the Hyundai 7 year warranty

gone are the days when "premium cars" were premium or had desirable toys you didn't get on cheaper stuff. All you are buying is lower reliability, bigger bills and funding the lifestyle of some clever marketing people
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 03:59 PM
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I would avoid the 2007 for first model year issues as well as the early m273 balance shaft gear failure. But if's low miles, good condition and you don't mind more problem potential than a 2008 and up than I would go for it.
is there a VIN# range to avoid?

found another 2007 S550 and per the carfax has had its camshaft seals replaced around 29k miles
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chargedC32
is there a VIN# range to avoid?

found another 2007 S550 and per the carfax has had its camshaft seals replaced around 29k miles
https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-...y-vin-m272273/
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Old May 1, 2020 | 12:01 AM
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thanks!
based on the VIN, the engine info is:

M - engine: 273961 30 028666 273.961 M273 E55 V8 GASOLINE ENGINE M273 Е55 GA - Automatic : 722904 00 603264722.904 W 7 C 700 (NICHT FUER / NOT FOR VAN/G-CLASS) 7-SPEED А W7C700 NOT FOR G-ClassА

so sounds like it has the upgraded parts, correct?
its a 3/2006 build
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Old May 1, 2020 | 01:08 PM
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If the last 6 numbers on the engine are lower than 088611 than it is effected. In your case it is effected.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chargedC32
is there a VIN# range to avoid?
Corrected as of engine # 2739xx30 088611, as mentioned after this should be fine.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Hunt
If the last 6 numbers on the engine are lower than 088611 than it is effected. In your case it is effected.
Originally Posted by konigstiger
Corrected as of engine # 2739xx30 088611, as mentioned after this should be fine.
got it, thanks for clarifying.. so it is affected
the only thing i can tell based off the carfax is that cam seals were changed around 30k miles

car has 60k now, what is the likelihood that 1) it has been replaced, or 2) if it hasnt been replaced, that it will fail ? difficult to predict, i know.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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called the dealer and provided them with the VIN
recalls completed: retrofit adapter wiring harness on camshaft; V-belt upper guide pulley; software update for transmission control module and engine control module

other notable services:
camshaft seals replaced
PCV system checked/serviced
Evaporative emissions vent purge valve replaced
fuel injection system flushed/serviced

recent - front and rear brake pads replaced (non OE MB), oil and filter changed

been regularly dealer maintained by 3 previous owners.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chargedC32
called the dealer and provided them with the VIN
recalls completed: retrofit adapter wiring harness on camshaft; V-belt upper guide pulley; software update for transmission control module and engine control module

other notable services:
camshaft seals replaced
PCV system checked/serviced
Evaporative emissions vent purge valve replaced
fuel injection system flushed/serviced

recent - front and rear brake pads replaced (non OE MB), oil and filter changed

been regularly dealer maintained by 3 previous owners.
Doesn't sound like it's been done but it's usually a problem around 100k miles. There was a class action lawsuit in 2016 about it so maybe the dealer will work with you on the cost.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 02:38 PM
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Doesn't sound like it's been done but it's usually a problem around 100k miles. There was a class action lawsuit in 2016 about it so maybe the dealer will work with you on the cost.
oh wow 100k? I thought it was one of those things that can fail at any time regardless of miles, even when new / low miles
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IMHO there is no crystal ball as to mileage failure. You have to understand parts were installed with inferior material/build quality therefore, part can fail at any time.
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Thanks for the info

Given the known facts, what is a fair price?
2007 S550, 3 owners all in CA, always and extensively dealer maintained, white on black, options include (not sure which were extra cost options, but....) AMG styling package, 19" AMG wheels, Harmon/Kardon premium sound, rear view camera, parktronic, memory package, rear door LH and RH sun blinds, rear window blind, and dynamic front seats
in preparation of sale, front and rear brake pads replaced (non OE MB), oil and filter changed, and rear quarter panel repainted due to "dent"
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Old May 2, 2020 | 09:11 PM
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There are a lot of other cars to pick from out there now with good pricing since the USA shut down, or wait a few month more for further drop in pricing.
Not sure why you would take a chance on this one???? If it does happen and you have to pay how much is it going to cost you to repair, do you want that risk.
There are enough things on the S550 that can go wrong why add Major things to that list.
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There are a lot of other cars to pick from out there now with good pricing since the USA shut down, or wait a few month more for further drop in pricing.
Not sure why you would take a chance on this one???? If it does happen and you have to pay how much is it going to cost you to repair, do you want that risk.
There are enough things on the S550 that can go wrong why add Major things to that list.
true. I think i will hold out for a 2010-2011
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Corrected as of engine # 2739xx30 088611, as mentioned after this should be fine.

my local specialist that's been going since 1986 says he's done lots of these on cars outside the range and has lots of cars in the affected range that have never played up across the V6 and the V8 petrol - so its more guess work from Mercedes about affected range rather than being on top of the job. Which after all is to be expected as the supplier making these sprockets out of cheese was clearly some charlatan.... probably an intentional way to kill off cars, but they went and over did the time to fail
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I've put 7000 miles on my 2008 S550 since I bought it January first and all I've done was an oil change and air filters and spark plugs. What an awesome car!!!!!!!!!!! The trip odometer had not been reset for the last 19,000 miles and shows average of 19.8MPG which is almost twice the gas mileage I used to get with my old 1972 Buick Riviera. The 2 cars weighed about the same I'm guessing... LoL
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Is the suspension different on the 2010+ ?
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No, same Airmatic system. Some vehicles may be equipped with optional Active Body Control (ABC) with crosswind stabilization (not available with 4matic) data card will list code 487.
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No, same Airmatic system. Some vehicles may be equipped with optional Active Body Control (ABC) with crosswind stabilization (not available with 4matic) data card will list code 487.
Got it. Mechanic I spoke to said to get a 2010/2011 as it is the last of the naturally aspirated V8, has the facelift, better command system, and suspension that doesn't fail like the early models. So wasnt too sure about the suspension...
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