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High Mile W221 - M278

Old Apr 8, 2022 | 07:45 AM
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High Mile W221 - M278

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I'm very close to buy a Mercedes S Class W221 from 2011 - M278, the clock shows 350.000 km.
BUT - Fully MB service from day one, one owner - CEO company car, long distance driving Austria, Germany.
Newly changed both turbo's.
No error messages, codes - starts and drive perfectly.
Any concerns ?
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Old Apr 8, 2022 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Timo Schroeder
Hi.
I'm very close to buy a Mercedes S Class W221 from 2011 - M278, the clock shows 350.000 km.
BUT - Fully MB service from day one, one owner - CEO company car, long distance driving Austria, Germany.
Newly changed both turbo's.
No error messages, codes - starts and drive perfectly.
Any concerns ?

Read about cylinder scoring. It could be a U.S. problem due to low quality fuel and oil. Europe has higher quality fuel and oil, and MB knows those specifications better than they do other markets. The MB Bluetec fiasco is an example of this.
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Old Apr 8, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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If the price is right and it has been well maintained, go for it!
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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Thats an early M278 and might have the chain tensioner issue. If it is "scheckheftgepflegt" then check if the update to the tensioners have been done (check valves and new tensioners).

Other then that i agree....if it is in great shape and you like it....go for it

Good luck
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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Price out a used replacement engine before you commit to this car.
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PillDrive
Thats an early M278 and might have the chain tensioner issue. If it is "scheckheftgepflegt" then check if the update to the tensioners have been done (check valves and new tensioners).

Other then that i agree....if it is in great shape and you like it....go for it

Good luck
Thanks for your reply. The car have fully service book by Mercedes, everything has been checked and done. The owner have been driving between 25.000-35.000 yearly, so the car have been in tip top shape.
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Timo Schroeder
Thanks for your reply. The car have fully service book by Mercedes, everything has been checked and done. The owner have been driving between 25.000-35.000 yearly, so the car have been in tip top shape.
The mileage comes to 150 km for every work day for 11 years so the question in my mind is if these kilometers were put on it in city or highway. Makes a huge difference in wear of the engine and transmission.

150 km sounds a lot but if it was a company car for many people to drive this kind of km fill up quickly even in city use.

I would feel a lot better if the car had 50 000 or even more km on the clock. This would certainly mean highway driving meaning you can divide it all by 3 or even 4 to compare to city car.

But I would think this is a highway used car so the engine mileage is only just around 100 000 km or less.
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PillDrive
Thats an early M278 and might have the chain tensioner issue. If it is "scheckheftgepflegt" then check if the update to the tensioners have been done (check valves and new tensioners).

Other then that i agree....if it is in great shape and you like it....go for it

Good luck
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The mileage comes to 150 km for every work day for 11 years so the question in my mind is if these kilometers were put on it in city or highway. Makes a huge difference in wear of the engine and transmission.

150 km sounds a lot but if it was a company car for many people to drive this kind of km fill up quickly even in city use.

I would feel a lot better if the car had 50 000 or even more km on the clock. This would certainly mean highway driving meaning you can divide it all by 3 or even 4 to compare to city car.

But I would think this is a highway used car so the engine mileage is only just around 100 000 km or less.
Thanks for you're answer. I'm just by you much more happy with a high mileage car than the opposite. This car I know personally, it was a car for the CEO of a bigger company in Germany. Weekly driving between the HQ and the different factory's in Austria, Slovenia and Italy. Some years car have been driving +50.000km. And always kept in absolute top shape - fully service book by Mercedes, completely new brakes allround, both turbo's new, airmatic relative new, olie change every 15.000 km with Gastrol Edge Sport olie. So ....
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Originally Posted by Timo Schroeder
Thanks for you're answer. I'm just by you much more happy with a high mileage car than the opposite. This car I know personally, it was a car for the CEO of a bigger company in Germany. Weekly driving between the HQ and the different factory's in Austria, Slovenia and Italy. Some years car have been driving +50.000km. And always kept in absolute top shape - fully service book by Mercedes, completely new brakes allround, both turbo's new, airmatic relative new, olie change every 15.000 km with Gastrol Edge Sport olie. So ....
What is the price? If it is decent I would be all over this car. By the driving history you can divide km by 4 to compare to city car. This car has basically moved always when engine ran. Transmission was on over drive at all times meaning no gear mesh was in use other than at both front and rear axles and transfer case.
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What is the price? If it is decent I would be all over this car. By the driving history you can divide km by 4 to compare to city car. This car has basically moved always when engine ran. Transmission was on over drive at all times meaning no gear mesh was in use other than at both front and rear axles and transfer case.
Hi. I know the owner and the company, and I can buy the car out of the company for around 15.000€ - and I think it's a quiet fair price - or ?
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Hi. I know the owner and the company, and I can buy the car out of the company for around 15.000€ - and I think it's a quiet fair price - or ?
What is your opinion about the potential for cylinder scoring?
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What is the price? If it is decent I would be all over this car. By the driving history you can divide km by 4 to compare to city car. This car has basically moved always when engine ran. Transmission was on over drive at all times meaning no gear mesh was in use other than at both front and rear axles and transfer case.
Hi. I know the owner and the company, and I can buy the car out of the company for around 15.000€ - and I think it's a quiet fair price - or ?
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What is the price? If it is decent I would be all over this car. By the driving history you can divide km by 4 to compare to city car. This car has basically moved always when engine ran. Transmission was on over drive at all times meaning no gear mesh was in use other than at both front and rear axles and transfer case.
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What is your opinion about the potential for cylinder scoring?
Shouldn't be a problem - all service done by Mercedes, latest service including two new turbo's done 5.000 km ago.
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Hi. I know the owner and the company, and I can buy the car out of the company for around 15.000€ - and I think it's a quiet fair price - or ?
BUY IT!!!
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BUY IT!!!
Yes boss 😜. I'm picking it up on Thursday. Btw it's fully loaded, Bang & Olufsen, fully loaded.
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