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Old Mar 28, 2026 | 01:37 PM
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are you being serious right now?

Do you understand the built of the air spring now and know that “I am serious right now”?
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Old Mar 28, 2026 | 03:37 PM
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Do you understand the built of the air spring now and know that “I am serious right now”?
yes, but it does not expand indefinitely. Therefore, pressure must rise.

pV=nRT
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Old Mar 28, 2026 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AL5461
There are a few videos on YT regarding the repair of these valves. They're pretty much the only component that can be worked on without removing/destroying the strut.
careful jumping right at these valves. They deenergize if anything else in the system is wrong. so a read out of any stored or current codes who’s the first step.
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Old Mar 28, 2026 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
yes, but it does not expand indefinitely. Therefore, pressure must rise.

pV=nRT
Expansion room is well within the limits the suspension needs to move during normal car use. It will reach limit only when jacking the car up for tire change.
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Old Apr 2, 2026 | 06:53 AM
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2008 S550 with 135K miles and it's not smooth over bumps. I feel a lot of the imperfections from the road and know that the ride should be better. The ride height is fine; back in the Fall I had to replace the level position rod in the rear of the car and had someone with the Xentry get the level right, and the car height looks fine. The shocks don't deflate after a couple days, the height stays fine. What else could cause this rough ride?
Near the top of each front suspension point there are electrical snap on connections, unclip both and spray with contact cleaner which should reset the comfort mode, bad connection at the electrical point can cause default to hard suspension.
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Old Apr 2, 2026 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by giuseppesalvato
Near the top of each front suspension point there are electrical snap on connections, unclip both and spray with contact cleaner which should reset the comfort mode, bad connection at the electrical point can cause default to hard suspension.
Do you have a picture or diagram of the connections you mention?
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Old Apr 3, 2026 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RichDMB
Do you have a picture or diagram of the connections you mention?

as circled, I think this is what he’s referring to. That 90 degree clip/plug is sandwiched with the wheel speed sensor and if dirty or not seated correctly it does indeed put the suspension in some kind of default mode that feels way too stiff

https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...port-mode.html

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Old Apr 3, 2026 | 09:31 AM
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That is the connector for the advanced damping system that communicates with each struts solenoid valve to regulate the hardness of damping.

There are two solenoid valves, and they can either be open or closed. If this connector is dirty or has failed in anyway, the system revert to a deenergized closed mode, giving you a full hard mode.

Comfort mode is both valves open, giving you soft rebound and soft damping

Sport mode is one valve closed and one valve opened, giving you hard damping, and soft rebound

soft damping and hard rebound as a result of the respective valves being open and closed is actually undefined in WIS

Hard damping and hard rebound is as previously mentioned the fail safe mode.

it’s important to note that any sensor or valve failure, or dirty connector in the airmatic with EDS will give you the fail safe mode.
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Old Apr 3, 2026 | 02:20 PM
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The electrical connectors are in the engine bay, very close to the top of each suspension mounts.
I am trying to upload photo's, but I can not seem to be able to do it

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Originally Posted by giuseppesalvato
The electrical connectors are in the engine bay, very close to the top of each suspension mounts.
I am trying to upload photo's, but I can not seem to be able to do it
the electrical connectors on the S class are in the wheel well, not the engine bay.
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the end you can't do anything with (vehicle loom) is on the inside front wings (behind / obscured by the ABS module on one side)

the actual connectors sit up by the suspension level sensors - pop the link rod off one end to get room - then a metal spring clip pops upwards and off (its hidden by a bit of plastic you could break off and likely will trying to understand how to release the metal clip)

its just a sprung wire thing - but totally obscured by the plastic bit then the plugs slide outwards (backwards to rear of the car) - lube the blocks with wd40 or silicon and wiggle then it will just pop out (once the clip is off)

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Originally Posted by COUPCONNOISSEUR
the electrical connectors on the S class are in the wheel well, not the engine bay.
I know the electrical connectors are in the wheel bay, but I am talking about the connectors in the engine bay close to the top of the suspension mounts, spray those with contact cleaner should allow you to use comfort mode.

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Originally Posted by giuseppesalvato
I know the electrical connectors are in the wheel bay, but I am talking about the connectors in the engine bay close to the top of the suspension mounts, spray those with contact cleaner should allow you to use comfort mode.
Those are not the only connectors/valves/sensors that can fail. check them all with a MBStar das readout.
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Old Apr 3, 2026 | 03:23 PM
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I do not have MBStar das readout
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Originally Posted by giuseppesalvato
I do not have MBStar das readout
ICarsoft does a decent MB code reader that will serve you well as a day to day diagnostic tool.

It's not a substitute for the full Xentry set up, but it will get you off the side of the road.
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
That is the connector for the advanced damping system that communicates with each struts solenoid valve to regulate the hardness of damping.

There are two solenoid valves, and they can either be open or closed. If this connector is dirty or has failed in anyway, the system revert to a deenergized closed mode, giving you a full hard mode.

Comfort mode is both valves open, giving you soft rebound and soft damping

Sport mode is one valve closed and one valve opened, giving you hard damping, and soft rebound

soft damping and hard rebound as a result of the respective valves being open and closed is actually undefined in WIS

Hard damping and hard rebound is as previously mentioned the fail safe mode.

it’s important to note that any sensor or valve failure, or dirty connector in the airmatic with EDS will give you the fail safe mode.
Hmm interesting...when I suggested the fail safe mode aka the hard mode, you told me that the " Hard Mode " is only on abc cars and airmatic doesn't have a fail safe mode and on how google was wrong lol Now I see that you did some reading and have a more educated opinion on how the airmatic works.So the above post is exactly how the whole system works.

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Old Apr 3, 2026 | 09:02 PM
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I've had the same concern with my 2022 S580 Airmatic, the system can get a little wonky in the snow. Try clearing the memory by turning the car off then on again, that seems to reset the system and it should function normally.
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Originally Posted by doni01
Hmm interesting...when I suggested the fail safe mode aka the hard mode, you told me that the " Hard Mode " is only on abc cars and airmatic doesn't have a fail safe mode and on how google was wrong lol Now I see that you did some reading and have a more educated opinion on how the airmatic works.So the above post is exactly how the whole system works.
It is semantics, but airmatic is not the system that has hard mode. That would be the advanced damping system. Airmatic and ADS are integrated on the W221 vice separated as they are on most other MB platforms. Google does not accurately reflect this, but the workshop information system does.

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