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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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Traffic sign assist inoperable

I get a "traffic sign assist inoperative" message every time I start the car. It used to work at one point, but now I always get the message and it didn't fix itself ever (even after restarts).
All other systems that seem to rely on the same cameras work ok. But not traffic sign assist.
Can anyone help ?

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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 09:23 AM
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What is traffic sign assist?? Never heard of it.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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Confirm it is activated.

The system may be either functionally impaired or temporarily unavailable if:
- visibility is poor, e.g. due to snow, rain, fog or spray
- there is glare, e.g. from the sun being low in the sky
- there is dirt, ice or misting on the windscreen in the area of the camera
- traffic signs are hard to detect (dirt, ice, snow)
- there is insufficient illumination of the traffic signs in the night
- signs are ambiguous (e.g. traffic signs on construction sites or in adjacent lanes)
- the information in the digital street map of the navigation system is incorrect or out of date
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 10:06 AM
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What is traffic sign assist?? Never heard of it.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Confirm it is activated.
Yes. I went down to that menu, where it only says "Traffic Sign Assist System inoperative". It does not give me the option to activate/deactivate it like it used to.

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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Confirm it is activated.

The system may be either functionally impaired or temporarily unavailable if:
- visibility is poor, e.g. due to snow, rain, fog or spray
- there is glare, e.g. from the sun being low in the sky
- there is dirt, ice or misting on the windscreen in the area of the camera
- traffic signs are hard to detect (dirt, ice, snow)
- there is insufficient illumination of the traffic signs in the night
- signs are ambiguous (e.g. traffic signs on construction sites or in adjacent lanes)
- the information in the digital street map of the navigation system is incorrect or out of date
I cleaned all my windows. It still gives me "inoperative" which I think is a more serious issue than temporarily unavailable.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeechair
Yes. I went down to that menu, where it only says "Traffic Sign Assist System inoperative". It does not give me the option to activate/deactivate it like it used to.
Time for dealer to sought it out.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Time for dealer to sought it out.
Aaaaaaa my biggest fear!!!!!!!
W222 seems to have poor record in the electronics reliability. Also most other Mercs. Threads are full of electronics not working like they should.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeechair
Aaaaaaa my biggest fear!!!!!!!
W222 seems to have poor record in the electronics reliability. Also most other Mercs. Threads are full of electronics not working like they should.
The W222 actually has an excellent reliability record compared to other cars. Same with MB's in general.
Forums of all car brands look the same as every car will have something that either won't work right or is disliked.

But more electronics means more can go wrong. Since you are under warranty, this should be easily fixed...

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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 12:15 PM
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Holy cow! I never heard of this feature. Is this available on the 2014 S550? Where exactly do you navigate on the computer to find this feature? I will investigate it today.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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Holy cow! I never heard of this feature. Is this available on the 2014 S550? Where exactly do you navigate on the computer to find this feature? I will investigate it today.
It's in konigstiger's "activate" PDF above.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeechair
I get a "traffic sign assist inoperative" message every time I start the car. It used to work at one point, but now I always get the message and it didn't fix itself ever (even after restarts).
All other systems that seem to rely on the same cameras work ok. But not traffic sign assist.
Can anyone help ?
Where are you from (where do you drive the car at the moment)?
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Where are you from (where do you drive the car at the moment)?
The S Class is a grey market import to India. (Because India has high prices for crappy specs). So it has got no warranty at all and was sold brand-new from the UK "as is". Traffic Sign Assist used to work (atleast for some signs, remarably), but all of a sudden it mentions its inoperative. Every time I start the car, I get the warning message that its inoperative.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 04:19 PM
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Although purchased grey market without warranty, check with MB UK & India in as much as they are not legally responsible feature worked and now malfunctions they “may” offer goodwill assistance to resolve the matter or at least definitively diagnose it.

http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cont...ontact_us.html
http://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/conte..._Test_Frontend

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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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I don't have this option in the menu on my S
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TestnDoc
I don't have this option in the menu on my S
According to post #4 above, this option is not available in the US of A.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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I am surprised that it even worked at times.
Traffic signs are typically speed limit/end-of-speed limit signs, no passing signs etc.

Since the assistant uses both navigation and traffic sign recognition, it may have been disabled due to missing nav data (do you have the Indian Nav data loaded?) and the signs must look the same as in the database. I remember seeing some signs like in Europe and then several that appear Indian.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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I have this feature on my BMWs, using a camera to display the speed limit. I'm surprised the S doesn't have it.
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I have this feature on my BMWs, using a camera to display the speed limit. I'm surprised the S doesn't have it.
I never thought of the S not having it even HUD. Is that true?

MB, Audi & BMW had that for 5-6 years in Europe
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
I am surprised that it even worked at times.
Traffic signs are typically speed limit/end-of-speed limit signs, no passing signs etc.

Since the assistant uses both navigation and traffic sign recognition, it may have been disabled due to missing nav data (do you have the Indian Nav data loaded?) and the signs must look the same as in the database. I remember seeing some signs like in Europe and then several that appear Indian.
I'm thinking that might be the case that the Navigation maps are missing. Basically At the beginning Traffic Sign Assist works. Then it stopped. Maybe it
realized it was in a different country (India)

Going to the India dealer isn't that easy. The UK dealer told me not to take it there for arleast a year, because the India dealer will report the car as taking away from India sales and reports it to Merc. That gets the UK dealer in trouble. And the UK Dealer hooked me up with a sweet full option customized S Class.

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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeechair
The S Class is a grey market import to India. (Because India has high prices for crappy specs). So it has got no warranty at all and was sold brand-new from the UK "as is". Traffic Sign Assist used to work (atleast for some signs, remarably), but all of a sudden it mentions its inoperative. Every time I start the car, I get the warning message that its inoperative.

Most likely it never worked in India. SLA needs backup data from the navigation database and if that is missing, it does not work even if the camera properly detects traffic signs.

VladimirCDI sells a CAN filter that "enables" SLA for countries that do not have speed limit info included in the navi database. Not sure how it behaves on an S-class, I know W204 shows the speed limit only momentarily which is hardly of any use.
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
I never thought of the S not having it even HUD. Is that true?

MB, Audi & BMW had that for 5-6 years in Europe
Audi and BMW may have had these longer but the W222 does have the speed limit info also on HUD (instrument cluster momentarily and Comand permanently as well as on the HUD). This is for the Euro market though.
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So, if I read all the posts correctly, this feature is not available in the U.S.? Is that right?
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 11:12 PM
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I would like to turn this feature on - regardless of whether the vehicle is a USA or Canadian or whatever.

Same for a lot of little functions like "spotlighting" etc etc.

Does anyone have an electronic tool to do such things - anything out there?

For example Porsche has "Durametric" - anything like that for the S Class?
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