2017 S550 Maybach 4Matic
04-08-2016, 08:11 AM
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I don't know the numbers as MB doesn't break them out but anecdotally seems to be poor. There is a lot of investory. 550 should do better because of 4Matic as they are cars people will use with drivers. NYC is biggest market for drivers and, of course, you really need 4Matic.
04-09-2016, 04:23 PM
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$13,000 less?
Marketing mishap in my humblest of opinions.
S550 4matic $95,000 base price to an S600 $166,000 base price represents a 75% premium over the 550 yet an S600 Maybach only costs 7% more at $189,000 than an S550 Maybach 4matic at $176,000?
Not sure that makes sense. Wouldn't S600 regular sedans feel like they grossly overpaid had they decided to go with an S550? We're talking the engine here and all the options.
Only way to really explain it is if the S600 maybach and S550 maybach are IDENTICAL in equipment, trim, etc except the engine, and the 4matic- leaving zero options in either available.
Does that make sense or did I ramble?
Marketing mishap in my humblest of opinions.
S550 4matic $95,000 base price to an S600 $166,000 base price represents a 75% premium over the 550 yet an S600 Maybach only costs 7% more at $189,000 than an S550 Maybach 4matic at $176,000?
Not sure that makes sense. Wouldn't S600 regular sedans feel like they grossly overpaid had they decided to go with an S550? We're talking the engine here and all the options.
Only way to really explain it is if the S600 maybach and S550 maybach are IDENTICAL in equipment, trim, etc except the engine, and the 4matic- leaving zero options in either available.
Does that make sense or did I ramble?
04-09-2016, 05:55 PM
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Yes that is correct. The only difference is the engine and the 4Matic. Numbers are skewed since most options are included in the S600 so not much more to make it a Maybach whereas there are a lot of options added to the S550 to make it a Maybach.
$13,000 less?
Marketing mishap in my humblest of opinions.
S550 4matic $95,000 base price to an S600 $166,000 base price represents a 75% premium over the 550 yet an S600 Maybach only costs 7% more at $189,000 than an S550 Maybach 4matic at $176,000?
Not sure that makes sense. Wouldn't S600 regular sedans feel like they grossly overpaid had they decided to go with an S550? We're talking the engine here and all the options.
Only way to really explain it is if the S600 maybach and S550 maybach are IDENTICAL in equipment, trim, etc except the engine, and the 4matic- leaving zero options in either available.
Does that make sense or did I ramble?
Marketing mishap in my humblest of opinions.
S550 4matic $95,000 base price to an S600 $166,000 base price represents a 75% premium over the 550 yet an S600 Maybach only costs 7% more at $189,000 than an S550 Maybach 4matic at $176,000?
Not sure that makes sense. Wouldn't S600 regular sedans feel like they grossly overpaid had they decided to go with an S550? We're talking the engine here and all the options.
Only way to really explain it is if the S600 maybach and S550 maybach are IDENTICAL in equipment, trim, etc except the engine, and the 4matic- leaving zero options in either available.
Does that make sense or did I ramble?
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I guess no one is ordering. Given lackluster sales of 600 Maybach wonder if MB will continue to import them to US.
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I believe MB and other makers have artificially inflated the price of their 12 cylinder cars, just to keep them exclusive. They know that folks who want the top line car, for the most part, don't care about the price. I think in reality, an S600 shouldn't cost more than maybe $15K or $20K over an S550, but the price is to the moon, because people will pay it.
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A LWB version of any car will be a specialty car with lower expected sales.
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My feeling is that the car is just not much different than a standard 222 sedan. It's longer and has a much larger rear seat area. A little extra insulation and that's pretty much it. I feel that they should have really upgraded the interior and made the car truly stand out from a basic S600. In addition, there should be a lot more custom options, like special fabrics, wood choices, etc. All that said, I'm sure they will sell a bunch of them in large, wealthy, metro areas like NYC, but I still feel that driving your own Maybach looks a bit odd. Riding in the back, great. Up front, you look a bit like the hired help.
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There are so many 600 Maybachs out there for sale. If you speak to dealers they will tell you demand is anemic.
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I believe MB and other makers have artificially inflated the price of their 12 cylinder cars, just to keep them exclusive. They know that folks who want the top line car, for the most part, don't care about the price. I think in reality, an S600 shouldn't cost more than maybe $15K or $20K over an S550, but the price is to the moon, because people will pay it.
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My feeling is that the car is just not much different than a standard 222 sedan. It's longer and has a much larger rear seat area. A little extra insulation and that's pretty much it. I feel that they should have really upgraded the interior and made the car truly stand out from a basic S600. In addition, there should be a lot more custom options, like special fabrics, wood choices, etc. All that said, I'm sure they will sell a bunch of them in large, wealthy, metro areas like NYC, but I still feel that driving your own Maybach looks a bit odd. Riding in the back, great. Up front, you look a bit like the hired help.
I agree soooooo much...
The options in maybach series are negligible noticed, needs more "plush" options...
Carpet is sub par... Leather is same
(except some throw pillows w/badges... Lol...)
My optioned out 16' s63 cost sticker 179k...
Difference in my 63 & a similar optioned out 550....was a noticeable difference in co$t...BUT visually the same
BUT...
So the driving experience.. Night & day difference...
(IMO I thought the difference was worth it... Engine & front bumper alone)
So it really is cost vs value to individual...
WHICH IS WHY I LOVE THIS SITE...
(allows people to compare cost vs experience & learn do much before Making such Big decisions)
Maybach 550 & standard optioned out 550...
I really can't see spending the difference...
05-18-2016, 12:18 PM
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I believe MB and other makers have artificially inflated the price of their 12 cylinder cars, just to keep them exclusive. They know that folks who want the top line car, for the most part, don't care about the price. I think in reality, an S600 shouldn't cost more than maybe $15K or $20K over an S550, but the price is to the moon, because people will pay it.
05-18-2016, 04:02 PM
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My feeling is that the car is just not much different than a standard 222 sedan. It's longer and has a much larger rear seat area. A little extra insulation and that's pretty much it. I feel that they should have really upgraded the interior and made the car truly stand out from a basic S600. In addition, there should be a lot more custom options, like special fabrics, wood choices, etc. All that said, I'm sure they will sell a bunch of them in large, wealthy, metro areas like NYC, but I still feel that driving your own Maybach looks a bit odd. Riding in the back, great. Up front, you look a bit like the hired help.
The 2016 Maybach 600 has an MSRP of $189,350. Much fewer options and less differentiation between the regular S600 and the Maybach. Even the S65 has a higher MSRP of $222,000.
Mercedes seems to think that they can sell more Maybachs now, at a lower price point, and make a larger profit, since their costs are likely lower. Because the car isn't much different from the regular S600, the production costs don't go up drastically, as they did with the previous Maybach.
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I agree with most in this thread... I think Mercedes lost the differentiation game. When shopping for a S550 I opened the door to what I thought was a S550 ... sat it front seat... back seat .. only when I got out and looked at the sticker did I realize what I was looking at.
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I think Mercedes learned from the last iteration of the Maybach and the very low sales. Previous Maybach was much more exclusive, customizable, and "plush", however the Maybach 57 had an MSRP of $367,000 back in 2006, while the Maybach 62 had an MSRP of $426,250. Those cars could cost over $500k after options were added... Hence "The last cars to wear the Maybach badge never came close to reaching Daimler’s goal of 1000 units per year—approximately 3000 cars were made over a decade-long run"
The 2016 Maybach 600 has an MSRP of $189,350. Much fewer options and less differentiation between the regular S600 and the Maybach. Even the S65 has a higher MSRP of $222,000.
Mercedes seems to think that they can sell more Maybachs now, at a lower price point, and make a larger profit, since their costs are likely lower. Because the car isn't much different from the regular S600, the production costs don't go up drastically, as they did with the previous Maybach.
The 2016 Maybach 600 has an MSRP of $189,350. Much fewer options and less differentiation between the regular S600 and the Maybach. Even the S65 has a higher MSRP of $222,000.
Mercedes seems to think that they can sell more Maybachs now, at a lower price point, and make a larger profit, since their costs are likely lower. Because the car isn't much different from the regular S600, the production costs don't go up drastically, as they did with the previous Maybach.
I think I'll have to google these and read some more....just wow!
05-19-2016, 12:33 AM
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http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...ach/62/1438476
here's an options list...
OPTIONS INCLUDE REAR WINDOW CURTAINS - $3,250.00 HEATED AND VENTILATED FRONT SEATS - $1,675.00 ACTIVE VENTILATED REAR SEATS - $1,675.00 EXT. COMMUNICATION SYSTEM - $2,400.00 PARTITION WALL WITH INTERCOM PACKAGE - $30,900.00 GLASS SUNROOF WITH SOLAR PANEL PACKAGE - $15,500.00 RECLINING REAR SEATS WITH TELESCOPING LEG/FOOTRESTS RETRACTABLE FOLDING TABLES HEATED STEERING WHEEL CONTRAST STITCHING IN THE SEATS - $1,250.00 CONTRAST STITCHING DASHBOARD AND DOORS - $1,550.00 DASHBOARD AND DOORS IN LABRADOR ANTHRACITE - $2,500.00 PILLARS AND ROOF LINER IN BASALT GREY - $1,250.00 CARPET IN 551 BLACK STEERING WHEEL, GEAR SHIFT, TRIM IN BURL - $2850.00 LCD - CINEMA-SCREEN - $22,840.00 OVERVIEW CAMERA - $5,400.00 IPOD PRE-INSTALLATION IN REAR ARMREST 3 USB PORTS IN REAR ARMREST - $1,650.00 ...
$94,600 in options
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