Anyone else annoyed by this?
05-20-2016, 11:14 PM
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Anyone else annoyed by this?
Hey guys.
My parents have had their W222 for almost three months now. However, I still can't get over the fact that the panoramic roof does not extend all the way down the roof. I am honestly very surprised and pretty confused to say the least as to why MB decided to do this for the W222?
Why does the pano roof on the W205 and W212 cover the entire roof, but it's not the same for the W222? Even the pano roof on the previous W221 would cover the entire roof.
With all this being said, what do you guys think the real reason for this was and does it bother you in any way?
BTW I know that there are a few threads on here about this already, but they're mostly from two years ago. Interested in seeing what current W222 owners have to say.
My parents have had their W222 for almost three months now. However, I still can't get over the fact that the panoramic roof does not extend all the way down the roof. I am honestly very surprised and pretty confused to say the least as to why MB decided to do this for the W222?
Why does the pano roof on the W205 and W212 cover the entire roof, but it's not the same for the W222? Even the pano roof on the previous W221 would cover the entire roof.With all this being said, what do you guys think the real reason for this was and does it bother you in any way?
BTW I know that there are a few threads on here about this already, but they're mostly from two years ago. Interested in seeing what current W222 owners have to say.
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05-21-2016, 09:47 AM
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I think my CLS opens more 
but I'd have to measure......but I agree with your thoughts......it's a small one haha
but I'd have to measure......but I agree with your thoughts......it's a small one haha
05-21-2016, 11:34 AM
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Not a fan of pano roofs and I think perhaps the novelty vs. the practicality is beginning to show. For the S it may be related to a longer pano not really needed so the people in back can look up at stars?
05-21-2016, 12:18 PM
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Well this option is definitely very subjective just like most options on these cars. Also, the people sitting in the back already have a sunroof that opens up.
05-21-2016, 01:33 PM
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don't have pano on my CLS.....just a regular one
05-21-2016, 01:39 PM
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Lol no you're not weird. I think all of us have looked up at the stars when we were a kid. I don't even see stars anymore here in LA 'cause of all the light pollution. However, since your in NC I beleive you guys still are able to right?
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05-21-2016, 11:08 PM
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Personally love the pano roof as it bring more light into the cabin.
I prefer the full glass roof look as well, but it's important to note that the actual glass roof openings of the pano are the same between the W221 and W222. It's just an exterior design.
Has been discussed here before, but I assume this design has evolved this way for weight/noise/strength reasons.
Interesting that the W213 has the full glass treatment again.
I prefer the full glass roof look as well, but it's important to note that the actual glass roof openings of the pano are the same between the W221 and W222. It's just an exterior design.
Has been discussed here before, but I assume this design has evolved this way for weight/noise/strength reasons.
Interesting that the W213 has the full glass treatment again.
05-22-2016, 12:10 AM
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Personally love the pano roof as it bring more light into the cabin.
I prefer the full glass roof look as well, but it's important to note that the actual glass roof openings of the pano are the same between the W221 and W222. It's just an exterior design.
Has been discussed here before, but I assume this design has evolved this way for weight/noise/strength reasons.
Interesting that the W213 has the full glass treatment again.
I prefer the full glass roof look as well, but it's important to note that the actual glass roof openings of the pano are the same between the W221 and W222. It's just an exterior design.
Has been discussed here before, but I assume this design has evolved this way for weight/noise/strength reasons.
Interesting that the W213 has the full glass treatment again.
Is the W222 really that much heavier than the W221 was?Also, I'm not surprised that the W213 has the full glass again, 'cause the W212 has it right now.
05-22-2016, 01:00 PM
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Be glad it opens at all!
I am getting an S63 Coupe (C217) this fall, and the non-optional / fixed pano roof is one of the two major complaints I have with the car (other being the steering column gear selector). While I rarely open the sunroof on my CLS63, and the shade won't stay closed under hard acceleration, I do frequently tilt it up when parked to vent excess heat; interior temps can easily hit 150+ degrees after baking in the Arizona summer sun for hours.
The MY17 C Coupe has a proper opening pano roof. Perhaps there is a structural reason why the S Coupe pano roof must be fixed, but more likely they did it to sell more cabriolets... I'd consider a cab but the roofline of the pillar-less coupe is my favorite design aspect of the car.
I am getting an S63 Coupe (C217) this fall, and the non-optional / fixed pano roof is one of the two major complaints I have with the car (other being the steering column gear selector). While I rarely open the sunroof on my CLS63, and the shade won't stay closed under hard acceleration, I do frequently tilt it up when parked to vent excess heat; interior temps can easily hit 150+ degrees after baking in the Arizona summer sun for hours.
The MY17 C Coupe has a proper opening pano roof. Perhaps there is a structural reason why the S Coupe pano roof must be fixed, but more likely they did it to sell more cabriolets... I'd consider a cab but the roofline of the pillar-less coupe is my favorite design aspect of the car.
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The bottom line with that FUCxING roof is that MB wins and we the customers lose.
Luxury is having the OPTION to have things exactly as you want them. The fewer the options, the less luxurious the ownership experience. The Pano Roof should be available to those who want it. To those who do not, we should have the OPTION of not ordering it.
For decades, I was the exclusive U.S. importer and distributor for a very prestigious German company. I love the Germans. My ancestry is part German. That said, I have NEVER found a group of people who are as stubborn and pigheaded as the Germans. It's their way or the highway and they ALWAYS know what's best. Question their judgement and two big guys in black trench coats will ask you for your papers!
05-22-2016, 01:10 PM
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Yes it could possibly be because of strength reasons, but then again who knows?
Yes I know that the roof openings are the same for the 221 and 222, but why didn't MB do the same exterior design for the W222?! Is the W222 really that much heavier than the W221 was?
Also, I'm not surprised that the W213 has the full glass again, 'cause the W212 has it right now.
Yes I know that the roof openings are the same for the 221 and 222, but why didn't MB do the same exterior design for the W222?!
Is the W222 really that much heavier than the W221 was?Also, I'm not surprised that the W213 has the full glass again, 'cause the W212 has it right now.
They may have wanted to section to be quieter (more noise damping options with steel than glass) and stronger. Plus it may have been easier to stretch the bodies.
05-22-2016, 01:39 PM
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Hate to beat a dead horse, but the Pano Roof should have remained OPTIONAL!
05-22-2016, 03:43 PM
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Be glad it opens at all!
I am getting an S63 Coupe (C217) this fall, and the non-optional / fixed pano roof is one of the two major complaints I have with the car (other being the steering column gear selector). While I rarely open the sunroof on my CLS63, and the shade won't stay closed under hard acceleration, I do frequently tilt it up when parked to vent excess heat; interior temps can easily hit 150+ degrees after baking in the Arizona summer sun for hours.
The MY17 C Coupe has a proper opening pano roof. Perhaps there is a structural reason why the S Coupe pano roof must be fixed, but more likely they did it to sell more cabriolets... I'd consider a cab but the roofline of the pillar-less coupe is my favorite design aspect of the car.
I am getting an S63 Coupe (C217) this fall, and the non-optional / fixed pano roof is one of the two major complaints I have with the car (other being the steering column gear selector). While I rarely open the sunroof on my CLS63, and the shade won't stay closed under hard acceleration, I do frequently tilt it up when parked to vent excess heat; interior temps can easily hit 150+ degrees after baking in the Arizona summer sun for hours.
The MY17 C Coupe has a proper opening pano roof. Perhaps there is a structural reason why the S Coupe pano roof must be fixed, but more likely they did it to sell more cabriolets... I'd consider a cab but the roofline of the pillar-less coupe is my favorite design aspect of the car.
If ONLY it had remained a frigging OPTION! No, somewhere along the line, the tightwad bean counters in Germany decided that if they made the W222 with just one roof choice, that production costs could be lowered. Making the Panorama Roof a standard equipment "feature," they could up the base MSRP and still appear to be magnanimous, as if they were giving us something for free.
The bottom line with that FUCxING roof is that MB wins and we the customers lose.
Luxury is having the OPTION to have things exactly as you want them. The fewer the options, the less luxurious the ownership experience. The Pano Roof should be available to those who want it. To those who do not, we should have the OPTION of not ordering it.
For decades, I was the exclusive U.S. importer and distributor for a very prestigious German company. I love the Germans. My ancestry is part German. That said, I have NEVER found a group of people who are as stubborn and pigheaded as the Germans. It's their way or the highway and they ALWAYS know what's best. Question their judgement and two big guys in black trench coats will ask you for your papers!
The bottom line with that FUCxING roof is that MB wins and we the customers lose.
Luxury is having the OPTION to have things exactly as you want them. The fewer the options, the less luxurious the ownership experience. The Pano Roof should be available to those who want it. To those who do not, we should have the OPTION of not ordering it.
For decades, I was the exclusive U.S. importer and distributor for a very prestigious German company. I love the Germans. My ancestry is part German. That said, I have NEVER found a group of people who are as stubborn and pigheaded as the Germans. It's their way or the highway and they ALWAYS know what's best. Question their judgement and two big guys in black trench coats will ask you for your papers!
I suppose only the engineers will know that. My personal opinion is that this has to do with the overall platform design of the W222. Unlike any other MB, this one was designed from the get-go for four different car lengths (SWB, LWB, Maybach, Pullmann) with seat configurations also not available in any other MB's. Seats have some impact on the cabin design into the trunk.
They may have wanted to section to be quieter (more noise damping options with steel than glass) and stronger. Plus it may have been easier to stretch the bodies.
They may have wanted to section to be quieter (more noise damping options with steel than glass) and stronger. Plus it may have been easier to stretch the bodies.
Yes, and how much I would love it if my car were quieter and stronger--while probably being much lighter, with an ALL steel roof. I know that it's probably a one in a million chance that one of these cars rolls over in an accident, but I can't help but feel that if such a thing did happen, why would anyone want a glass roof?
Hate to beat a dead horse, but the Pano Roof should have remained OPTIONAL!
Hate to beat a dead horse, but the Pano Roof should have remained OPTIONAL!
05-22-2016, 03:49 PM
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Can't argue much with logic and practicality mentioned in the above posts. However, I think those that like it are for less practical reasons.
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05-22-2016, 04:45 PM
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Yes, and how much I would love it if my car were quieter and stronger--while probably being much lighter, with an ALL steel roof. I know that it's probably a one in a million chance that one of these cars rolls over in an accident, but I can't help but feel that if such a thing did happen, why would anyone want a glass roof?
Hate to beat a dead horse, but the Pano Roof should have remained OPTIONAL!
Hate to beat a dead horse, but the Pano Roof should have remained OPTIONAL!
05-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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Lol!
