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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 10:43 AM
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2007 S600 vs 2014 S550

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I'm looking to buy a used car and am deciding between a 2007 S600 (w221) and a 2014 S550. My requirements for the car is as follows:

1. Ride Quality/Comfort
2. Technology
3. Uniqueness/ A car that would make me feel special

I am coming from a 2007 GL 450 so let me know how these two stack up compared to that.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CobaltProductio
Hello everyone,

I'm looking to buy a used car and am deciding between a 2007 S600 (w221) and a 2014 S550. My requirements for the car is as follows:

1. Ride Quality/Comfort
2. Technology
3. Uniqueness/ A car that would make me feel special

I am coming from a 2007 GL 450 so let me know how these two stack up compared to that.
there is nothing like a s600. That v12 is awesome and an experience all on its own. But, you're talking two different animals. You can find low mileage s600's for under $30k too.

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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 11:18 AM
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Where you at? I'll have a 2011 S600 up for sale in a month or two.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 12:18 PM
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I figured that the s600 would be a lot more special but was wondering how the technology fared over the last 11 years. I was also considering a 2007 S65 which would have been awesome, but I realized that I would much rather have comfort over speed.
I saw that the 2007/2008 models have a more basic interior than the 2009-2013 models, but does it make that much of a difference??

Also @atikovi, I really want a 2011 but that is probably out of my 30k budget.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltProductio
I figured that the s600 would be a lot more special but was wondering how the technology fared over the last 11 years. I was also considering a 2007 S65 which would have been awesome, but I realized that I would much rather have comfort over speed.
I saw that the 2007/2008 models have a more basic interior than the 2009-2013 models, but does it make that much of a difference??

Also @atikovi, I really want a 2011 but that is probably out of my 30k budget.
There are 2014 S550's for $30k? If so, the car must be a wreck with well over 100k miles.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltProductio
Also @atikovi, I really want a 2011 but that is probably out of my 30k budget.
I'd probably list it at $35K and take a little less so it's not that far off.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltProductio
I figured that the s600 would be a lot more special but was wondering how the technology fared over the last 11 years. I was also considering a 2007 S65 which would have been awesome, but I realized that I would much rather have comfort over speed.
I saw that the 2007/2008 models have a more basic interior than the 2009-2013 models, but does it make that much of a difference??

Also @atikovi, I really want a 2011 but that is probably out of my 30k budget.

Sorry to say but there is nothing special about a 10+ year old S600. The pre-facelift non-sport package cars look quite dated by now and the engine, while being powerful, is technically ancient, pricey to maintain and not much faster than the S550. Not a standout car.
That said, if you have a $30k budget, then a W222 S550 is out of your price point also.

Either way, with your budget its is likely a W221 with an existing warranty. Unless you are well versed DIYer, a V12 will easily set you back a $5k-$10k a year for maintenance/repairs. A newer, pre-owned W222 (CPO or 3rd party warranty), even at $60-$65k will be the cheaper car for you over a 3+ year period than a non-warrantied S600
Good luck!

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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 02:15 PM
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It's too bad that you didn't post this a month ago. I just traded in my 48k mile 2 owner mint condition black/black 2007 S600 at the end of Dec. I still had 4 years and 52k miles of exclusionary warranty coverage left on it. I would have sold it to you for $26k including the warranty. It also had AMG rep wheels.

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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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If your looking for a clean 2013 S550 fully loaded I have one I'm selling still has six months of the factory CPO warranty left. I just picked up a 2015 S550 so it's time to move her.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW68
It's too bad that you didn't post this a month ago. I just traded in my 48k mile 2 owner mint condition black/black 2007 S600 at the end of Dec. I still had 4 years and 52k miles of exclusionary warranty coverage left on it. I would have sold it to you for $26k including the warranty. It also had AMG rep wheels.

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Did you purchase that extended warranty? If so, what company and do you recommend it.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 05:40 PM
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Did you purchase that extended warranty? If so, what company and do you recommend it.
Yes, I purchased it through my credit union in Nov, 2014 for around $3300. It was an exclusionary policy with $100 deductible. I purchased 7 yrs/75k miles of coverage. In the 37 mo I had the car, the policy paid out over $24k in claims. So yes, I recommend them highly.

Best price by far is getting it on a very low mileage car. My S600 only had 24k miles at the time I purchased it, even though the car was already 8 years old. I know that their pricing has gone up since I purchased the coverage (probably because of how much they paid out in claims on my car. ). I got pricing from them on my GL 550 with 40k miles. It was significantly more expensive on that truck for the same exclusionary. The price quote from the credit union was $7966 for 4 yr/48k miles of coverage. Buying coverage with starting mileage under 30k would be significantly cheaper. My policy was administered by "The Warranty Group". They also handle all of the Carmax policies that everyone raves about.

For my GL, I ended up purchasing coverage through the dealer that was one step down from exclusionary for 4 yr, 45 miles that cost me $5400. My service adviser say this company is excellent as they work with them all the time.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW68
My policy was administered by "The Warranty Group".
They don't sell direct to the public.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 06:52 PM
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They don't sell direct to the public.
Correct. I purchased it through my credit union.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 07:54 PM
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On both cost and technology the 15 S550 will smoke the S600. The S600 will eat you alive in repair costs and has a very primitive technology set like no BT audio. For 30K your best bet is a MY12 or newer TT car. I will be selling my 12 S550 4matic in the coming months and will probably ask just over 30K with 55K miles and 6 months of MB warranty left. Keep in mind these are big heavy cars not sports cars but with the twin turbo they are a car to be respected by most cars on the road from a speed perspective.
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Old Jan 27, 2018 | 02:33 AM
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As much as I love W221s pre facelift models never attracts me ,you can make them look newer W221 but W222 is a better car overall . I would buy the a car with the "W" model designation then the resplandency .When you buy a class of this upper hill of the mountain technology also involves and W222 must overtake the W221 in ride comfort , drive efficiency ,gadgetry , accessories and other things that W222 offers while W221 couldn't .
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Old Jan 27, 2018 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Sorry to say but there is nothing special about a 10+ year old S600. The pre-facelift non-sport package cars look quite dated by now and the engine, while being powerful, is technically ancient, pricey to maintain and not much faster than the S550. Not a standout car.
That said, if you have a $30k budget, then a W222 S550 is out of your price point also.

Either way, with your budget its is likely a W221 with an existing warranty. Unless you are well versed DIYer, a V12 will easily set you back a $5k-$10k a year for maintenance/repairs. A newer, pre-owned W222 (CPO or 3rd party warranty), even at $60-$65k will be the cheaper car for you over a 3+ year period than a non-warrantied S600
Good luck!
"a V12 will easily set you back a $5k-$10k a year for maintenance/repairs"
Can you explain the 5 to 10K ....
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
"a V12 will easily set you back a $5k-$10k a year for maintenance/repairs"
Can you explain the 5 to 10K ....
Have to wonder if people making those claims have actually ever owned that car, or are just repeating unfounded rumors they have heard. Except for the engine, there isn't much difference between the V12 and V8 cars and the V12 engine isn't prone to needing repairs any more than the V8.
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This should be a short thread a 30k budget isnt getting you a w222.
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Old Jan 27, 2018 | 09:13 AM
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Could buy you this one https://www.copart.com/lot/37901017
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"a V12 will easily set you back a $5k-$10k a year for maintenance/repairs"
Can you explain the 5 to 10K ....
My experience has been with the SL600. A bit different than the S-Class but not really as the cars share the exact same engine, drivetrain, suspension, etc.
Unlike the previous MB non-TT V12 engine, the Twin Turbo model is actually quite reliable.

But here is the simple fact. Buying used high-end car for pennies on the dollar doesn't mean that any normal maintenance or wear items are discounted as well. They come at "full-retail" prices unless you go the "under-maintained" route, are a DIY or find a great Indy shop. Also, any MB V12TT car deals with the same basic physics. A large, very heavy engine in front will wear on the suspension. The high torque engine will wear the mounts, drive train and tires and a low volume production engine means more expensive parts for simple stuff. There are plenty of junk yards and rebuild parts but I am referring to normally dealers maintained cars out of warranty.

For the 2007, the most common repairs are ABC suspension work (ABC pumps, lines, struts), ignition coil packs, turbo seal leaks, spark plugs, engine/transmission mounts and the usual small annoyances of sensor or control module failures. Ignition coil pack.
We got rid of our SL which has been an incredible fun car at a bit over 70k miles but we have encountered all of the above. Never looked at it as a money pit but it wasn't cheap if you look at it.

Spark plug change was something like $1500. Coils packs, don't recall- $7k? Engine mounts = $3k (engine had to come out on the SL), ABC pump failure and associated damages $9k. Lots of performance rear rubber $$$
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Have to wonder if people making those claims have actually ever owned that car, or are just repeating unfounded rumors they have heard. Except for the engine, there isn't much difference between the V12 and V8 cars and the V12 engine isn't prone to needing repairs any more than the V8.
You mean people like you making presumptive statements? You appear to have little knowledge about S-Class models. V12's by default have ABC/MBC suspensions vs. the S550 Airmatic. Heavier, more powerful engine coupled to a completely different transmission...

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Funny. This car will require about $20k in repairs. So you get a bare bone (apart from sport package) MB with a salvage title for $50k. What a steal...

EDIT: Looking at the pics, the repair will cost much more than $20k

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Funny. This car will require about $20k in repairs. So you get a bare bone (apart from sport package) MB with a salvage title for $50k. What a steal...

EDIT: Looking at the pics, the repair will cost much more than $20k
You must have missed the sarcasm in my post referring to the OP thinking they can get an 2014 S550 for $30K.
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