Good year or a not so good year for a 222?
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Good year or a not so good year for a 222?
i am ready to move from my 2012 S550 and it's met all my expectations. Could not be more pleased but it's time.
For a 222, is there a year that stands out? Is the transmission an issue at all?
All comments welcome.
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For a 222, is there a year that stands out? Is the transmission an issue at all?
All comments welcome.
Thanks.
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I traded my MY2012 4matic for a MY2015 4matic with 17K miles. I have racked up around 4K miles in the last 4 months with zero issues. From a pricing perspective the MY2015 seems to be in the sweet spot as far as depreciation goes with a very nice example going for around 50% of original MSRP. I gave 59K for mine and it had an MSRP of around 119K. I think the 15-17MY cars have the same 7 speed. Some have had issues but it is too soon to tell if the new 9 speed is any more reliable as it is new. Got around 31K on my trade with 55K miles on the clock. These cars do seem to sell for a premium in the PNW as I found my same car on the east coast and in TX for around 3K less but in Washington we have sales tax so the savings was cancelled because of this. Found a MB dealer that will extend the factory warranty for another 3 years for around 3200 bucks so I will be at around 62K all in with the warranty. Love the car, it is a step above the 12 in refinement and comfort and it feels just as solid. Loved my 12 but it was falling out of warranty and I was ready for something new. Personally I would never buy one of these cars new because of the depreciation hit they take but the 2-3 year examples with very low miles can be had for a bargain.
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Thanks for the review. Most appreciated. Agree completely on warranty. Does MY2015 have a spare tire? Wheels are 19 or 20? Use will be a road car not a town car.
Again thanks.
Again thanks.
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i had a transmission issue in my 2016 CPO, they rebuilt and i think the 7 speed is known for issues. Don’t know about 9 speed. I wanted a 16 for the traffic sign assist and I think there were a couple of other minor features over the 15.
i think warranty is key.
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I got a 2015 about a year ago on a trade of my AMG Wagon. Great car, no real issues, trans sometimes has a firm shift from 1 to 2 first shift of the day only and on rare occasion a firm downshift from 4 to 3, like once a month if that. Car is very comfortable and cushy. Was thrilled with the distronic originally until I drove a 2018, much improved in the newer car. Does not hold the center of the lane all that well in the 2015 and tends to weave a little as if you'd had a few beers, lol. The newer cars of course are more advanced, but that's the way technology goes. Car performs very well, really presses you into the seat when you get on it. Surprising handling for a such a big car. Sometimes on exit ramps I'll hit the suspension into sport just to make it a little tighter in the corners. I don't recommend the run flats, better off with a regular tire, I run the bridgestones Serenity plus tires. Less noise and more comfortable. The mood lighting is good and many other cool features. All around a great car.
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Thanks all for good feedback. RFT have their place in the city plus they look really good on a Low Rider or a 911. On the hwy, a real tire is needed but with a spare in the back.
Actually, I get the low profile look and see the attraction. I just lean more towards performance.
Time to start looking for a 2015. Houston, Dallas and Austin.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Actually, I get the low profile look and see the attraction. I just lean more towards performance.
Time to start looking for a 2015. Houston, Dallas and Austin.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Something like this seems like a decent deal, maybe throw a bid at it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...8AAOSw7fBa6J1b
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The MY 2014 I had was great, solid and reliable.........only had a aux battery and brakes replaced....under warranty of course.
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no spare tires on any w222 unless you throw a donut in the trunk.
i had a transmission issue in my 2016 CPO, they rebuilt and i think the 7 speed is known for issues. Don’t know about 9 speed. I wanted a 16 for the traffic sign assist and I think there were a couple of other minor features over the 15.
i think warranty is key.
MB has been using the 7G-tronic for 15 years in millions of cars and and had countless revisions and software. They definitely had some issues and the 9G is much better but the 7G in the 222 was the most mature version. Transmission software is also designed by model and is not 100% between models.
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I’m not llooking to argue. I believe I read here and elsewhere about NUMEROUS known issues with the 7 speed including hard shifts I think from 4 to 5. I may be mistaken but I woukdn’t have pulled that out of a hat, I had read about it and would swear i read others said known issues.
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here’s one link, there’s a lot more out there...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w222...-shifting.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w222...-shifting.html
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I’m not llooking to argue. I believe I read here and elsewhere about NUMEROUS known issues with the 7 speed including hard shifts I think from 4 to 5. I may be mistaken but I woukdn’t have pulled that out of a hat, I had read about it and would swear i read others said known issues.
Keep in mind that the OP is coming from the exact same transmission already (perhaps older software)
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here’s one link, there’s a lot more out there...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w222...-shifting.html
The only thing at times is to separate personal opinion from facts. The 7speed MCT for AMG models has been cursed for years for it's harsh and jerky shifting. And it was; AMG should have changed the transmission years ago. But its bad demeanor wasn't faulty. It just was working that way. Same way with BMW's SMG and DCT for M cars...
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I’m not llooking to argue. I believe I read here and elsewhere about NUMEROUS known issues with the 7 speed including hard shifts I think from 4 to 5. I may be mistaken but I woukdn’t have pulled that out of a hat, I had read about it and would swear i read others said known issues.
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From what I've heard there has been problems with the Pulse Width Modulator in both the 221 and 222's. (PWM). I think that could be the problem in my car. I tried to tell the dealer this and all they did was a software update which did not thing for my shifting harshness.
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My 2015 was a good car. It had something around 40K when I turned it back after a three year lease. The glass roof popped, creaked & squeaked, but other than that, was pretty much trouble free.
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And my 2015 does not make any noise from the glass roof. It’s actually super quiet all around.