superangrypenguin

I will start by stating that these reviewers are full of ****. The S class is quieter than the G90, period, and all they need to do is buy an A8L for a car quieter than the S. These reviewers are clearly still kids who don't deserve to be considered actual reviewers given the amount of incorrect information presented here, but nonetheless it was interesting to watch.

OnlyGerman

Wannabe luxury garbage

superangrypenguin

Above this, most idiots who buy Genesis cars don't even know that after all factory incentives and negotiating away margin, the German 3 are often 'cheaper' than a MSRP G90. Why? G90s are sold at MSRP, only - or so I'm told. After I take off $15K off of a W223 and take away the 9% margin which almost all dealers were willing to do when I was thinking about buying a 223, a S450 was cheaper than a G90.

So who the hell buys a G90? Folks who don't do their research.

teksurv

Did you buy your A8 yet? My A4 was fantastic, when I had it. I had loaners more often than my car. My 204 was far superior. The A8 is a fantastic car, however, and just my opinion, the S-Class is in another league. Genesis needs more time to be considered such as Lexus.

absent

I'm waiting to see the new W12 with close to 600HP, I fully expect that car to be spectacular.

DABRONX

They might not be right there but they are catching up. Problem is the Germans have to stop penny pinching on the S,7 or A8. It is starting to show.

It is hard to pass these cars up especially if you are just daily driving. Honestly I am starting to not see the difference as much besides the status which is at times unwelcoming.

Younger generations are not shoping name brands anymore. They don't care if its a Rolex and to me it is a problem as they also do not care about quality luxury items. Real quality goods have now been watered down into cheaper versions and its almost sad to see. Is a GLA really even a Mercedes? I always say my kids will never aspire to have a quality good vs one that just gets the job done. We all have Toyota to thank for that as it is a great business strategy but it slaps destroyed wanting to build the best instead of the best at a certain price.

I use my S as a daily driver so it is hard tp pass up cars like this. I see them sold at big discounts so Im not sure where the sold at sticker comes from?

The next S better have unique color and material options. They need to make Designo more individual and built to order. If I want a blue S with a red interior and carbon trim I should be able to buy it. I want exclusivity and if Mercedes doesn't deliver then why not search out an alternative. One of the biggest disapoinmenst was the Lexus LS. I thought I would leave with one but the materials were just cheap.

bkdc

Your math does not add up. 15k Is 135k. You are not suggesting your 135k S class discounted 9 percent is less costly than a G90?

there is a market for all types of buyers, and a G90 is a quality sedan.

superangrypenguin

That's because your maths was wrong and you didn't actually read my post.

S450 MSRP is $108,000. At least 9% of that is margin, so that means dealer invoice cost is $98,280. Before you ask, my negotiations when I was in the market for a S450 here in my neck of the woods was even less than that as dealers were willing to 'eat' into their holdback to get rid of it. So I could knock another $2k to $3K off of $98,280, but let's ignore that because most people can't 'do' that.

So we're at $98,280 - $15K manufacturer incentive is $83280, which is LESS than the $89K Genesis G90.

Sure, no one buys a base model S450, so add in the premium package or whatever, and now we're near the price of a G90. Add in a few more, and you're still within 10% more than the price of a G90.

Either way, anyone with a brain who can do basic math would know a G90 is only, on paper, cheaper than an S class. It may not be after margin and manufacturer incentives. It's one reason I didn't end up buying a G90 but my point is that when people keep on saying a G90 is cheaper and that's it's USP, it's not always accurate, and it's more often wrong than right.

absent

So true (and it is very unfortunate)
My Sommelier son (25y) who drives a new GLA 250 (I bought it for him when he made the certification) does not care about the brand, heritage, etc, is jealous though of his buddy's Hyundai Tucson because he has a car apple play and his Benz does not.

hyperion667

I recently saw this video too and almost posted it here for Streamliner But I agree, it's a nice car but does not tick the box for someone shopping for luxury.

listerone

Many laughed when Toyota first introduced "Lexus". Nobody's laughing anymore. We shouldn't be surprised if,in 10 years (or less),people stop laughing at Genesis...and Kia.

Detailingdoc

Lebron is the ambassador for Kia and pitches the K900 yet always posts videos to social media in the back of his S/Maybach.

hyperion667

I'll never forget when they came out in the 90's........I always thought they were nice looking cars, and you could smash one in street fighter too LOL!! For some reason I don't think Kia will ever 'catch up' as you say.

absent

You maybe on to something.
Lexus started right out of the bat as a luxury car, competition to S-Class, at E-Class price.
Kia started as el cheapo mass transportation subcompact and is only now trying to improve the image.

Streamliner

I have a different view. I was loaned a new 2018 G90 for a weekend and drove it hundreds of miles in heavy traffic, on open highways, twisty mountain roads and city streets. The car is EXCEPTIONALLY quiet. I loved the cavernous trunk with a proper jack & spare under the trunk floor (a feature I believe has been lost on the upcoming model). The seats were very comfortable and e everything worked well. I loved that for most every feature that could be controlled by their version of the Command system, there was ALSO a button, switch or knob.

My gripes are as follows:

1. The ride did not compare with my then 2015 S550 with MBC. The ride was good, but my S rode much better.
2. No massage seats or wood/leather steering wheel available.
3. Only two interior color choices and with some exterior colors, only one.
4. No provenance or history as an ultra safe, ultra crash worthy car, compared to a W222.
5. Zero cachet compared to an S Class.

Prior to 2020, if I could only afford an E Class, I’d buy the G90. That’s how I felt before I saw the hideous new grill, which now kills the car for me.