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Old 07-04-2020, 06:51 PM
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Buy the S63. You will never have to say... “I wish...” or “should have...”
This. There is such a thing as buyer's remorse.
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Old 07-04-2020, 07:49 PM
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Thinking more about this, we need to consider exactly how the cars being compared are equipped. An S560, sedan, running on 20” wheels & run flat tires, with the basic AirMatic suspension may not feel all that much different compared to an S63 with conventional tires. However, equip the S560 as mine is, with 18” wheels, very cushy, conventional tires & Magic Body Control and I would bet that the difference in the ride would be considerable.

And, if you are going to get the S63, make SURE you get the Ceramic Composite Brake option and forged wheels. An AMG without CCB, is like a martini without the GIN! ​​​​​​​



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Old 07-05-2020, 12:08 AM
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Would you go for S63 or S560, and why?.
S63.

unless you are a woman.

not that there is anything wrong with that.
Old 07-05-2020, 06:12 PM
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Just get the best of both worlds.

Buy the S560 and put a tune on it.

You will have all the power of the S63 for the price of the S560. The only thing you will be missing is the exhaust note.

I love my 2016 S550 4Matic with the tune from PresserTech, It’s a luxury rocket in sport mode, which is all I drive in.
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Originally Posted by coolcamden
Buy the S63. You will never have to say... “I wish...” or “should have...”
This is the correct answer.
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Just get the best of both worlds.

Buy the S560 and put a tune on it.

You will have all the power of the S63 for the price of the S560. The only thing you will be missing is the exhaust note.

I love my 2016 S550 4Matic with the tune from PresserTech, It’s a luxury rocket in sport mode, which is all I drive in.
I think there is more to the S63 than just a more powerful engine.
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I've had both and other than brake pad changes being 3 times more than any car I've ever owned, I loved it. I was at 85,000 miles and had ZERO issues with it but knowing that my warranty was running out and facing upwards of $10,000 in rotors, brake pads, and tires, I decided to tame it back down to the S560 and I love it too. Between the two, I like the 560 better because of how smooth and quiet it is. Do I miss my 63, heck yes! To answer your question, since $$$$ is no issue, get the AMG S63/65 and I would get the W222 and not wait on the W223.
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Glad to hear you've settled on the S63. I find it funny in threads like this where people finally decided... OK, I'm getting this one, and the people keep debating - oh, you should get this one, or no, you should get this one, when you've already said what you're getting.

You cannot and will not go wrong getting the S63. So, what color combo are you getting? I wish my car had the carbon ceramic brakes but it was on a dealer's lot this way, without them. Whatever. I LOVE my car, you will too. Post pics of course when you get it. You'll be SO STOKED.



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Originally Posted by MBS63AMG
I've had both and other than brake pad changes being 3 times more than any car I've ever owned, I loved it. I was at 85,000 miles and had ZERO issues with it but knowing that my warranty was running out and facing upwards of $10,000 in rotors, brake pads, and tires, I decided to tame it back down to the S560 and I love it too. Between the two, I like the 560 better because of how smooth and quiet it is. Do I miss my 63, heck yes! To answer your question, since $$$$ is no issue, get the AMG S63/65 and I would get the W222 and not wait on the W223.
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$10,000.00 for rotors & pads? Were those the ceramics? Just curious.
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$10,000.00 for rotors & pads? Were those the ceramics? Just curious.
Sounds like dealer pricing for multi-piece steels (along with tires, etc.) Even in steel format, multi-piece rotor are significantly more expensive but in steel there are many more choices/pricepoints, unlike CCB.
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The choice of a 560 vs a S63 is one of personal preference and desire, not one of rationale. The financials are easy to understand so the only thing relevant is how the OP feels about either car after a lengthy test drive or two.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
$10,000.00 for rotors & pads? Were those the ceramics? Just curious.
No they weren't but that price included 4 new Michelins and the labor. Many times in the past I have used an independent mechanic that would do it all for around $6000 but I decided to trade to the S560 anyway for many of the reasons you like yours.

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Old 07-09-2020, 09:42 AM
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Agreed on the CCB, that is the only option I wish my S63 had that it does not.
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Agreed on the CCB, that is the only option I wish my S63 had that it does not.
The Ceramic Composite Braking System is something truly wonderful and it’s a shame that MB does not make it available on more models. I’ve never owned an AMG vehicle, but found the CCB so attractive, that I had them retrofitted to my 2019 SL450. It is a very simple, “bolt on” procedure, but quite pricey, costing me over $16,000.00. And, unlike most guys who have the super fast AMG cars, I drive my little roadster like the proverbial “little old lady,” just cruising around the coast here in South Orange County. I put the brakes on for two reasons: First and foremost, they give off ZERO brake dust, keeping my forged AMG wheels—which I also added—sparkling clean, even after hundreds of miles, which also helps keep the rest of the car clean as well. Secondly, I love the way the huge discs & golden calipers look. By the way, the stopping power is off the charts. For the $8,900.00 option price when one orders an S63, the CCB option is a true bargain, IMO.







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Originally Posted by Streamliner
The Ceramic Composite Braking System is something truly wonderful and it’s a shame that MB does not make it available on more models. I’ve never owned an AMG vehicle, but found the CCB so attractive, that I had them retrofitted to my 2019 SL450. It is a very simple, “bolt on” procedure, but quite pricey, costing me over $16,000.00. And, unlike most guys who have the super fast AMG cars, I drive my little roadster like the proverbial “little old lady,” just cruising around the coast here in South Orange County. I put the brakes on for two reasons: First and foremost, they give off ZERO brake dust, keeping my forged AMG wheels—which I also added—sparkling clean, even after hundreds of miles, which also helps keep the rest of the car clean as well. Secondly, I love the way the huge discs & golden calipers look. By the way, the stopping power is off the charts. For the $8,900.00 option price when one orders an S63, the CCB option is a true bargain, IMO.

Agreed with everything you wrote, I also drive slower than most AMG fanatics drive but I'd LOVE to have these gold brakes too. If they were $8900 I'd get them in a second today...but at $16k+, I can't fathom that for me personally. Darn it. I'm so cheap on certain things... and not others. The dust KILLS me. I know I should buy ceramic brake pads but I'll have to research again which are the best ones to get and which actually fit correctly on my car and don't squeal. The last thing I need right now is more stress, coming from squealing brake pads. Which are the very best ceramic pads for our 2018 S63's? Anyone? Not cheapest, but best.



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Agreed with everything you wrote, I also drive slower than most AMG fanatics drive but I'd LOVE to have these gold brakes too. If they were $8900 I'd get them in a second today...but at $16k+, I can't fathom that for me personally. Darn it. I'm so cheap on certain things... and not others. The dust KILLS me. I know I should buy ceramic brake pads but I'll have to research again which are the best ones to get and which actually fit correctly on my car and don't squeal. The last thing I need right now is more stress, coming from squealing brake pads. Which are the very best ceramic pads for our 2018 S63's? Anyone? Not cheapest, but best.
Before I took the plunge on the CCB, I got the wheels. Not wishing the wheels to get filthy, I put ceramic pads on, which did cut down on the dust significantly. I went with Porterfield Racing pads, mostly since they are located just a few miles from my home and because another member here, with an S63 Cabriolet had great success with them. The pads worked great, no squeaking, smooth modulation, etc. It’s a small, old school type of company. Walking into their shop in Costa Mesa was like taking a time machine back to the 1960’s! I highly recommend them.
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The Ceramic Composite Braking System is something truly wonderful and it’s a shame that MB does not make it available on more models. I’ve never owned an AMG vehicle, but found the CCB so attractive, that I had them retrofitted to my 2019 SL450. It is a very simple, “bolt on” procedure, but quite pricey, costing me over $16,000.00. And, unlike most guys who have the super fast AMG cars, I drive my little roadster like the proverbial “little old lady,” just cruising around the coast here in South Orange County. I put the brakes on for two reasons: First and foremost, they give off ZERO brake dust, keeping my forged AMG wheels—which I also added—sparkling clean, even after hundreds of miles, which also helps keep the rest of the car clean as well. Secondly, I love the way the huge discs & golden calipers look. By the way, the stopping power is off the charts. For the $8,900.00 option price when one orders an S63, the CCB option is a true bargain, IMO.



Agreed. I bought my car used and couldn't find any for sale at the time that had CCB's. My car is due a complete rear brake service (pads and rotors for $4k), if it wasn't $16k to switch, I would consider that before doing the rears back to stock. Your car looks good with the mods!
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I knew eventually we could, at a minimum, convert you to some AMG parts. Maybe there is hope you will buy something like the S63.


Originally Posted by Streamliner
The Ceramic Composite Braking System is something truly wonderful and it’s a shame that MB does not make it available on more models. I’ve never owned an AMG vehicle, but found the CCB so attractive, that I had them retrofitted to my 2019 SL450. It is a very simple, “bolt on” procedure, but quite pricey, costing me over $16,000.00. And, unlike most guys who have the super fast AMG cars, I drive my little roadster like the proverbial “little old lady,” just cruising around the coast here in South Orange County. I put the brakes on for two reasons: First and foremost, they give off ZERO brake dust, keeping my forged AMG wheels—which I also added—sparkling clean, even after hundreds of miles, which also helps keep the rest of the car clean as well. Secondly, I love the way the huge discs & golden calipers look. By the way, the stopping power is off the charts. For the $8,900.00 option price when one orders an S63, the CCB option is a true bargain, IMO.


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Agreed. I bought my car used and couldn't find any for sale at the time that had CCB's. My car is due a complete rear brake service (pads and rotors for $4k), if it wasn't $16k to switch, I would consider that before doing the rears back to stock. Your car looks good with the mods!
Agree on the "mods". One of the rare instances that the "mods" improved a Mercedes visually.
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I knew eventually we could, at a minimum, convert you to some AMG parts. Maybe there is hope you will buy something like the S63.
Well, I doubt that will ever happen. Over the years, I have become almost hypersensitive to noise, vibration and harshness in my everyday surroundings in general and with respect to my vehicles in particular. My S560 is the best overall car I have ever owned in that respect and my SL450 the best convertible. And just to make my point, I have owned right at 60 new cars and another 40 used ones over my lifetime. When it comes to power, I need nothing more than the term Rolls-Royce uses: “adequate.” I like to feel effortless, “turbine like” acceleration, but would never need or want more, at the expense of noise, vibration or harshness. For me, I like it smooth, quiet and luxurious.
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I found this and am thinking about a 2020 s63. Haven't got around to a test drive due to covid. in comfort mode is the s63 as smooth and quiet as the s560.
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I found this and am thinking about a 2020 s63. Haven't got around to a test drive due to covid. in comfort mode is the s63 as smooth and quiet as the s560.
It's SO comfortable and serene in comfort mode. If you're even thinking about a 2020 S63, I'd just get one. You will NOT be disappointed. It rides like a dream in comfort and sport mode and eats up the highway without any jerkiness, roughness and is smooth as silk. Plus, it says S63 on the back, kind of cool.
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I test drove both today and felt like the S63 is just a little bit stiffer than S560. Does this bother me? Not at all. I loved the way it drives and felt like the S560 I had besides being very comfortable; It was kind of boring after a few hours of drive. I am personally not a fan of stiff rides, so I could never get an AMG! However, I believe the S63 is the only model that I can be happy as a daily.

I almost pulled the trigger on a 2019 s560 when I traded my 2016 s550 in. My 2019 s63 is a faster sharper handling car that is maybe a bit firmer riding car(in comfort mode)
if price is no object, the s63 is simply a more rewarding car to drive
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I found this and am thinking about a 2020 s63. Haven't got around to a test drive due to covid. in comfort mode is the s63 as smooth and quiet as the s560.
It is a terrific smooth ride in comfort mode. The 560 is smoother but I wouldn't let that be a deal breaker.


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