SW20S

Figured I would bump this vs starting a new thread. I drove a couple of 750s, and like them a lot. I like the exterior look (even the big grille). Ride and drive, I have driven them back to back. The S560 is a little quieter, a little softer riding but it very close. Seats are a little better in the S560. 750 is more powerful but the S560 is more than fine in that regard.

Some things I like about the 750, I like the styling, I like the console mounted gearshift (after many years of having a gearshift I rest my left hand there,I find myself wondering what to do with that hand in the S Class and other cars with no console shifter).

One of the big things is audio, I am not impressed with the basic Burmester audio in the S560, its not as strong as the Mark Levinson in my Lexus which I really enjoy. Bowers & Wilkins in the 7 however, is as good. I'm sure the 3D audio in the W222 would be even better but you can't find cars like that. With the 7, I could order it and get two things I can't get on a W222, the upgraded audio and alcantara headliner (hard for find a W222 with the exclusive Nappa)

I'm kinda torn, I go back and forth about wanting both.

The 750 is also about $200 a month cheaper to lease.

Thoughts?

Streamliner

At this point it’s up to you. Seems like you like the Bimmer. Go for it.

SW20S

I like some things about the Bimmer, but overall no question as a car I prefer the S560.

Do you have the basic Burmester system? What do you think of it?

BMW DOES offer a space saver spare!

Wolfman

What kind of a deal are you getting on the 750's? Those things should be dirt cheap unless it's a MY21 already (aka more than $200 difference). If I were you, I would go for a M760 or a B7. Both are more fun to drive and miles above even nicely spec'd 750's. M760's have some beautiful individual interiors.

SW20S

It would be a 21 because I’d have to order it. Waiting on numbers for my exact build. 760 would be fun!

Wolfman

Make sure to get a good discount. 7 Series are heavily discounted (much more so than any S-Class), including the latest models. If leased, make sure that the MF is not marked up. Current MF is .00099

Personally I would wait for a W223

SW20S

My thought is I could lease this for 3 years and get a W223 then. of course I can do this with a W222 also.

Rockland

I went back and forth too. I bought my 760 for the console shifter! I rest my right hand there!

places

Luxury has indeed been redefined.

SW20S

I REALLY hated the big grille when it first came out, but its grown on me.

places

I agree. I'm fine with the grill, but the rear of the 7 leaves much to be desired. Personally the 223's rear is even better, which is too is not great.

SW20S

I actually really like the rear...I think the angles of the new taillights help a lot. It and the W222 are just different cars, the S Class is elegant and classy, the 7 Series looks super long and low and much sportier.

MacMP

The market values the BMW’s much less than the MB S.

Personally, I hate how much hotter the BMW engines run.

I was following a new 760 last night here in Scottsdale. While I like the rear taillights, the car otherwise looks like so many other bland sedans, I simply couldn’t get into it.

Good luck!

kQUINTA6

I never owned an S-Class, but I had a chance to drive one and there was nothing else like it.

SW20S

So I went and drove the S560 again today, there's just no contest. The audio is a disappointment, but something hopefully I would get used to. The cloth headlining in the S Class feels much better than that in the 750. The S Class just drives and feels that little bit better which makes a big difference.

S550e

I agree with you, I came from being a loyal Lexus customer for 20+ years. That's why I opted for the Burmester 3D High End in my S. It is very good but I still think the Nakamichi sound system in the 90s Lexus were amazing... anyone remember those? The Mark Levinson is great as well. The standard Burmester doesn't cut it.

Streamliner

Between 1993 & 2012, I had eight, new, top line LS sedans. They all had air suspension. My favorite was my 1996 and it had the Nakamichi audio which was truly wonderful! Those were amazing cars Lexus produced back then. Relatively cheap, bulletproof reliability, relatively luxurious, drove great, very solid—everything an everyday driver/commuter car should be. I honestly don’t believe there is anything comparable on the market today and that’s a shame.

stever500

I'd say just get the one you prefer. None of us could possibly decide what's best for you and they're so close, it's up to personal choice. You can't go wrong with any of these cars. I'd just go out and look at the 2 cars again, or look online, and your gut will tell you which to pick. Keep in mind, our comments really shouldn't steer you in any way at all, only your own gut and personal sense of style. When it comes down to it, it's really only about style since both cars are fast, pretty and sound good inside and out.

Streamliner

Lets not get carried away now...............

SB_NYC

I also have a 2017 750i. Its nice, fast, etc. But it is no S-class.

SW20S

Those pictures of the 7 are obviously right on the nose. I think they’re very attractive, it’s grown on me a lot. It has a long, low look that is really sharp.

Like I said though, the S560 is the right car. Only downside is the audio. No way to find one with the 3D. If I want an S Class it’s just something i will have to deal with.

My dad had a 98 LS400 which had the Nakamichi, it was incredible. That’s the car that got me into Lexus and great riding cars. My LS460L is pretty close but doesn’t ride quite the same, I think a lot of it is bigger wheels, that LS400 had 16s and big 60 series tires.

The S560 does ride incredibly well.

rakaye47

Speakers take time to break in. The stock system on my CLS sounded muffled at first, and was disappointed. Now that they have broken in, they sound great.

Rockland

I think the standard systems in both cars are mediocre. No way I would buy the BMW without the Bowers & Wilkins or the S560 without the Burmeister 3D. I couldn’t live without the upgraded systems. I would sooner rent a car for 6 months while my car was built to my specs than settle.

SW20S

Agreed, but since I can't order an S560, its impossible to find one with the 3D system. Its extremely rare, I've never even actually seen one with it.

What I want is a W222, so ordering is out of the question.

So here's the question for you...in my situation would you choose the 750 because you can get it with the Bowers & Wilkins over the S560 with the base Burmester? Thats a legit question, I enjoy the ML audio in my LS a lot...and I would say its similar to the B&W, and better than the Burmester. As a car though, drive and ride and overall enjoyment the S560 is superior to both. Theres my quandary.

DABRONX

The grille only looks good when blacked out on the M package.

Like I said earlier 760's are being blown out and leased for maybe $100-200 more a month than a standard 560. At that pricing go with the BMW. Dealers use leasing brokers to sell the cars as they cant sell them or list the leases that low. Look on all the leasing web sites there are goo deals to be had.

BMW is better drivers car. MB is better build quality in my opinion. If its leased go with the BMW 760 as the 12cyl will make up the differences.

Honestly get a E63S it a nicer looking car in and out and all u get in the S is a bigger ego and a couple inches in the back seat.