Using floor jack
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2019 S560, 2015 Honda Civic Hybrid
Good question ... obviously we can use the four built-in points, two on each side. But how about the front crossmember, can we lift the car there? And can we use the rear differential with a suitable block of wood to spread the load evenly? This is how I lifted my C350 and worked fine at each location, but with the greater weight of an S would be good to be sure!
I did go to Youtube and found about a dozen vids of jacking all types of Mercedes, but none addressed W222s.
I did go to Youtube and found about a dozen vids of jacking all types of Mercedes, but none addressed W222s.
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Yes on the rear differential. Probably yes on the front crossmember. On hands and knees, look under the vehicle, the front crossmember jacking point should be clearly visible.
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Found it, there is a rectangular metal surface on the underside of the front subframe for lifting the front end. Now, next question, is it feasible to lift one end of the car this way with a 1.5 ton jack? Assuming weight distr. is around 50/50, that would make each end around 2,300 lbs on a 3,000 lb-rated jack.
Obviously I will not be putting any vital body parts under the car with only the jack supporting it, but it seems the jack mfg might design in a little more capacity than the rated number, so seems it would be doable ...
Obviously I will not be putting any vital body parts under the car with only the jack supporting it, but it seems the jack mfg might design in a little more capacity than the rated number, so seems it would be doable ...
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Found it, there is a rectangular metal surface on the underside of the front subframe for lifting the front end. Now, next question, is it feasible to lift one end of the car this way with a 1.5 ton jack? Assuming weight distr. is around 50/50, that would make each end around 2,300 lbs on a 3,000 lb-rated jack.
Obviously I will not be putting any vital body parts under the car with only the jack supporting it, but it seems the jack mfg might design in a little more capacity than the rated number, so seems it would be doable ...
Obviously I will not be putting any vital body parts under the car with only the jack supporting it, but it seems the jack mfg might design in a little more capacity than the rated number, so seems it would be doable ...
or invest in a jack like this that has a manual lock so no need for jack stands.
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2017 GLE350 4MATIC
Found it, there is a rectangular metal surface on the underside of the front subframe for lifting the front end. Now, next question, is it feasible to lift one end of the car this way with a 1.5 ton jack? Assuming weight distr. is around 50/50, that would make each end around 2,300 lbs on a 3,000 lb-rated jack.
Obviously I will not be putting any vital body parts under the car with only the jack supporting it, but it seems the jack mfg might design in a little more capacity than the rated number, so seems it would be doable ...
Obviously I will not be putting any vital body parts under the car with only the jack supporting it, but it seems the jack mfg might design in a little more capacity than the rated number, so seems it would be doable ...
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I don't have a W222 but I can tell you that looks just like the front lift point for my W212.
Edit:
I just looked up the part number shown on the part
https://spareto.com/oe/0029973286
Edit:
I just looked up the part number shown on the part
0029973286 - Jack support plate OE number by MERCEDES-BENZ
https://spareto.com/oe/0029973286
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Those jack support type blocks are all over ebay, I have not used them myself but they look as if they lock into an existing hole with a spigot of some sort , I think the circular bit on the photo pushes in to hold it in place and then sits flush as in the photograph.
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Are you saying that your car doesn't have one already installed? My car does and I assume that it came from the factory that way.
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I have never had to lift my car in the two years I have had it, I do however have a small trolley jack and tools under the boot floor and a spacesaver in a bag sat in the boot.
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2004 SL500 // 2015 S550
Was curious as to the front jack point and came across this thread. Using the part number that was captured in the above pic, this is certainly the front cross member jacking pad. Well done!
0029973286 - Jack support plate, mount set OE number
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2012 mercedes 220 cdi estate
Front central jacking point
Just did an oil change on my S204. C class 220 cdi estate. Read about this front jacking point and thought great I don't have to take the wheels off as can use jacking point and put large blocks of wood under front tyres for access. Got the trolley jack raised put the blocks under the wheels and then heard a crack. I thought must have been something under the jacks wheel. Did the oil change screwed back the under panels then noticed a green drip of coolant. What had happened was the central jacking point ( cheap plastic insert that mercedes must have saved a penny off the build cost instead of using rubber) had shattered and a piece had somehow shot through the fan missing the blades and fins and ended up piercing the radiator. Probably one in a million chance of it managing to shatter and a piece to have a unhindered passage into the radiator. Just one off those days which wouldn't have happened if mercedes had spent that extra penny. Changing the rad is a pain on these as I have found out. So beware if it can happen it will happen.
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W223 S500 LWB 4-Matic, W222 S450 LWB 4-Matic, A238 E400 Cabriolet 4-Matic
The MB ABS plastic lifting blocks on the vehicle are prone to shattering and deformation if the load is not shared completely evenly across the the face of it. It has happened to me a few times on various MB vehicles over the years. They are however inexpensive and easily replaced. Yes, you should use the MB jack adapters if you have them but shame on them for not using rubber or at least glass reinforced HD plastic products in this critical safety area.
Don't even think about using a "bottle" jack on the MB plastic block lift points as it will punch right through the middle and go deep up into the frame
Don't even think about using a "bottle" jack on the MB plastic block lift points as it will punch right through the middle and go deep up into the frame
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2012 mercedes 220 cdi estate
I was that annoyed I jigsawed a hole in the undertray and now the castellated jack cup fits tight, metal to metal on the cross member lifting point. If a piece of the cheap plastic insert wasn't stuck in the rad I would never have worked out how it happened.
