Streamliner

I am looking to get feedback on the 2019 or 2020 S650 Maybach sedan. I am a long time S Class driver, thinking of going for an S650. Thanks.

Katie22

I had a 16 Maybach. It was wonderful. With that said most of what made the car special was the back seat and if your not sitting there then the difference between it and any other S class is not that great. Yes you do get the wonderful 3d sound system that is rare on any other s class.

Quadrobenz

I have to ask why would you not buy a 2020 S650? It has the same hand built V12 as my S65 and the same 7 speed torque converter transmission that in C makes undetectable up and down shifts. Since purchasing my S65 in 2015 I have done all the MB scheduled services plus 3 sets of tires, one set of brake pads and replaced the auxiliary battery. That is it. I strongly recommend finding one with the optional Designo semi-analine interior. Trunk space will be smaller than your previous W220's because of the reclining rear seats. We live 25 minutes apart if you want to drive the S65, the S650 is the same except the suspension settings are not as firm and the 2020 has the MBC Curve function, my 2015 has MBC, no curve function. The S65 as an AMG does not have run flat tires.

Streamliner

Ah, Katie old friend. I wondered if you still ghosted here. Nice to hear from you. I’ve always wanted to try a V12 MB. I’ve had six BMW 12 cylinder cars—all back in the 80’s & 90’s, but never one from MB. That said, I probably still would not be considering one, if it were not for the fact that finding a low mileage, 2019 or 2020 S560 with MBC, Exclusive Nappa & 3D Audio, that does NOT have AMG Line styling and is not black, is just about impossible. However, most S650 Maybach’s have all the options, none are AMG and many are not black. In addition, many seem to be fairly low mileage cars. So, that’s my mindset.

Streamliner

Why would I NOT buy a 2020 S650? I don’t know why, other than I’ve never really wanted the additional back seat space and have always thought a Maybach owner should ride in the back seat, but as my dilemma is explained in my response to Katie, it looks like it might be my best bet right now. We shall see. Anyway, glad to hear your S65 has been good to you and thanks for the offer. I’m going to go test drive an S650 tomorrow and I’ll report.

Katie22

Bare in Mind the Maybach is loaded with AMG parts. I know this because in doing the maintenance on the car you encounter a LOT of AMG stamped parts.

Hi there Streamliner. I still stop by on occasion. The V12 was wonderful BUT the eight cylinder is also very smooth. We replaced the Maybach with a 22 F150 Limited. The truck is wonderful. The Blue Cruise is also wonderful. I thought the Maybach was pretty advanced but it does not hold a candle to the Blue Cruise where you can take your hands off the wheel for great deals of time while in the freeway. I am sure Mercedes is next with this technology.

PS I did not get rid of the AMG GTC. LOVE that car too much.

Katie

Mitch Alsup

A) I wish Merc still put V12s in the non-AMG side of things (other than Maybach)

B) that is why I am keeping my '15 S-600

MBS63AMG

You will love it. I had a 2007 S600 and I still think it is one of my top 3 cars in life.

S550e

Stream,

For the most part, I have been keeping up with your posts and your unpleasant experiences with the new W223. Sounds like a '20 Maybach would be perfect for you. All of them come fully spec'd and very easy to find with super low mileage in SoCal.

If they still made the regular sedan V12s that would have probably been the best. But with the facelift MB only did the Maybach. I hear that V12 is buttery smooth. In 2017 when shopping for my S, a local dealer did try to offer me a '16 Maybach S600 brand new that sat on the showroom floor. I entertained the idea for a few seconds, sat in the back, played with the tray tables, but came back to reality and realized it was more than I could afford, even with a heavy discount. Off my soapbox now, good luck to you sir!

amir1

Keep in mind that the Maybach sedan is 6" longer than a standard S-Class sedan (AMG or not). So parking can be an issue at times. The Maybach's are designed to run much smoother and quieter than the standard S. They are designed primarily for people who want to be driven. If you are going to mostly drive it yourself the Standard S560 will handle much better. For reference, I have a fully loaded 2020 S560 with upgraded leather, non-sport suspension, executive rear seat package with the trays coming out, etc. I even ordered it with the Magic Body Control, 3D surround sound,and the 19" muti-spoke wheels which uses slightly higher profile tires which ride much smoother than the 20" wheels. The car in my opinion drives and handles better than the Maybach primarily because its shorter and is highly configured. The leather and finishes will obviously be nicer on the Maybach so will the sound deadening materials. I liked mine so much that I ended up buying it out of the lease which was about to end. I test drove the new S580 3 times and was not inspired to get one. Sure they are nice and better as all new models should be, but there's something special about the W222s that the W223s don't have. BTW, mine is black on black and I too live in southern Cali.

Katie22

If there was one thing I really thought was cool about the Maybach (and I suspect cannot be gotten on an S) was the headliner was leather the sun visors were covered in leather.

Streamliner

I appreciate all of the comments. With gas prices approaching $7.50 a gallon here in LALA Land, the idea of going V12 is waning on me.
Not sure just what I will end up doing. In the meantime, I am continuing to drive my 2022 S580. To be continued…………

Quadrobenz

Katie, the S65 and SL65 include the hand stiched leather headliner, A,B&C pillar and sunvisors standard. You are correct it cannot be ordered in any other cars. A possible exception would be by placing the order through the very, very expensive Manufactur process. From the few Manufactur cars I have seen, most anything is possible. One Manufactur car even had partial leather trunk lining.
Streamliner, I hope you find the ideal replacement for the S580. When I look at purchases or spending, if it is expensive I always ask myself "will spending this money negatively affect my lifestyle." The answer is usually no. I suspect that trading a car that maxes out at 30MPG for one that maxes out at 20MPG will not change your lifestyle. You still have the relatively economical SL450 to drive as well. There is probably more to the decision to not trade back to a W222 from a W223 than fuel mileage.

Katie22

I stand corrected

Tom in Austin

What was the last year of the S600 (non-AMG, non-Maybach V-12), 2017? Did they ever make a facelift version, 2018 or newer?

MBS63AMG

Why did some of the W222 Maybachs have the Maybach hood ornament and some with the traditional 3-pointed star hood ornament?

SilberGrau57

After-market swap. They all come with the 3-pointed Star from the factory.

Streamliner

Well, I put it off for a week, but did go and drive a 2020 Maybach S650 yesterday. A beautiful car with less than 8,000 miles on it, riding on 20’s with run flats. I was not impressed. It’s a beautiful car, but the ride quality was not impressive. I could feel the torque that was available, but I virtually never drive my cars hard anymore and the response from my current S580 is way beyond sufficient for me. The one thing that really hit home is how much quieter my S580 is, especially at freeway speeds. Say what I will about the W223’s, but the one thing they absolutely aced, was an exceptionally quiet interior.

What I believe is going to happen, is that I will order a 2023 S Class. Maybe even drop down to an S500. I ordered my 2019 SL as a V6 450, over a V8 550, because I love the lighter, more nimble driving characteristics. Perhaps the I6 W223 will win me over as well. That’s the next step, drive an S500.

cfmistry

Sounds like the w223 is growing on you! My God that Maybach is gorgeous… love the paint, wheels, stance…

hyperion667

Pretty sure you're not getting one just posturing

Streamliner

Yes. The silence of the 223 cabin is very addictive to someone like me. And yes, I love the look of the Maybach, but the V12 would be a waste for me, as would the extended length. IF the car had ridden better and was at least as quiet as my 223, I would have considered it.

will_atl

@Streamliner I have a 2019 S450 with 20' wheels and run flats, when the road it smooth, so is the ride, but when it's not, the ride is not as smooth as I would expect it to be for an S Class. But they do look good!

Is it the rims, is it the runflats, is it both? I don't know

Like you, the smaller engine is really plenty for me, I did test drive a 560 and the difference in power, and seat comfort (ungraded leather) was noticeable, I am not in the league of owning a Maybach, so V12

YasS

The used car lot near my gas station has a used '19 560 Maybach:
I'd drive it home for you 😁

https://www.libertyautolandny.com/de...class/88767269