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Every set of Bridgestones I’ve ever had have been noisy and wear out incredibly fast.
I finally drove my wife’s xc90 with the dws06 and really, really like them. The scorpion verdes that came off it were horrific, noisy and hard ride. The dws06s are fantastic by comparison. I’d definitely consider them as an all-around a/s for an s class.
They seem to be the best in ride quality and road noise based on both, consumer as well as pro test by TireRack
I wouldnt look at those TireRack test scores and choose the Bridgestones. For me the decision is between the Pirellis and the Continental DWS 06+.
Like I said before, I wouldnt look at user numbers at all
I just paid a deposit for the Continental DWS 06+. they will arrive tomorrow, and if the manufacturing date is no older than 9 months, I’ll get them installed tomorrow afternoon when they aren’t.
I chose the Continental DWS 06+ based on the TireRack professional test results and video, making it clear that the comfort and ride quality was superior (being the most important aspect for my driving style).
I will report back once I install them.
my current winter tires are VREDESTEIN WINTRAC PRO non-RF and they do really really well in terms of comfort and winter driving conditions, so my baseline should also be valid to note any differences m.
How is the DWS 05 different from DWS 06+? Any idea?
The DWS 06 has updated tread pattern and compound. I had the DWS05 on one of my cars for awhile. All tires get louder as the tread wears down, some more than others, but it's pretty much inevitable as the tread wears down there's less material to deaden the sound.
The DWS 06 has updated tread pattern and compound. I had the DWS05 on one of my cars for awhile. All tires get louder as the tread wears down, some more than others, but it's pretty much inevitable as the tread wears down there's less material to deaden the sound.
non of my cars have ever lasted longer than the tires, lol, they usually go sooner than the tire life so I should be safe as much as I’d love to keep my current S560 for so many years to come but I know myself it will be soon before am shopping again!
I just paid a deposit for the Continental DWS 06+. they will arrive tomorrow, and if the manufacturing date is no older than 9 months, I’ll get them installed tomorrow afternoon when they aren’t.
I chose the Continental DWS 06+ based on the TireRack professional test results and video, making it clear that the comfort and ride quality was superior (being the most important aspect for my driving style).
I don't think you can go wrong with either tire, I don't think the DWS06 is any better riding or quieter than the Pirellis, but I don't think they are any less so either. The TR instrumented tests where they were compared directly gave the Pirellis slightly higher scores in ride and noise, but they are very close. I'm interested to see what you think of them.
Which Pirelli, the PZero All Seasons or PZero Nero All Seasons?
I had the DWS 05 in my w222 and couldn’t stand the tire roar as they got older. The AS4 are better but still loud. I am in the pursuit of silence!!
PZero All Season Plus, the Nero is a different tire.
The older DWS are different tires, the 06+ seems to be much improved, but some reports of them getting louder as they age is what pushed me towards the Pirelloi
Any advise on choosing between those two. They are the only ones that my local Discount tires offers and I also like both options available. Price is good (about 1500 USD) for either of them including installation as well as hazard warranty and lifetime free balance/rotation.
Two other options that are ranked highest in TireRack:
Option 4: Non run flat: BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE980AS+
Option 5: Non run flat: CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS
Has anyone used any of these 5. Beside Pirelli PZero All Season Plus, the last 2 options (4 and 5) seem to have the best comfort and noise rating. CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS gets the highest ranking based on professional TiraRack testing, while BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE980AS+ is the best based on consumers rating PZero All Season Plus has the lowest out of three but still one of the best 3 options overall.
Priority is for road noise and comfort for me . Sounds like reports on Michelin being loud, but read good reviews about Continental
Note: I already have a set of new winter tires for the 3 months of hard winter in my area. So, All-season performance in winter conditions is not an important factor for me.
I bought the CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS from Tire Rack on 5/5/2022 and fell they are much more comfortable than the Michelin's that I replaced. The ride is very smooth. This is for a 2005 SL500 with about 72,000 miles when I bought them and now have about 5,000 more miles on it. John Seal
Feedback:
I got the CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS installed today. We got some light windy snow conditions today, temperature was 27degF, so most of the 30-45 min drive routes I tested today were under winter light-snow conditions.
Noise: I can't comment on the road noise because of the light snow on the ground, but they felt as good as my winter tires that were also very silent. They seemed to be quite relative to the road condition.
Comfort: I purposely drove over a few light potholes. I can't say that I was shocked or surprised by how good they are, no, but there performed well and felt soft.
Thoughts: Am I not overly surprised because my previous baseline is also so comfortable? or that the baseline is hard to beat by too much anyway? Maybe. My Winter tires are winter performance tires ("VREDESTEIN WINTRAC PRO also non-RF"). These VREDESTEIN winter tires did better in Ride Quality than Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 and Michelin X-Ice SNOW according to TireRack Pro tests, and I do believe that given how good there were.
Snow braking: that was the one that exceeded my expectations. The tires handled the icy roads and snow really really really well, in a way I felt my Winter set can be useless? They really stopped and handled very well when I pushed the brakes hard over icy and snow turns/roads.
I'll report back after my first long highway trip. My tire pressure was 33 PSI for 3 tires (except right rear @36P PSI) by the way, so all the above may not be so relevant ... despite I handed them a note asking for 36 PSI all around. What's the chance that their gauge is accurate but my TPMS readings are off? I ordered a digital ANSI-certified calibrated gauge (Jaco Elite) from Amazon to verify. How accurate are your TPMS readings compared to hand-held accurate gauges?
Feedback:
I got the CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS installed today. We got some light windy snow conditions today, temperature was 27degF, so most of the 30-45 min drive routes I tested today were under winter light-snow conditions.
Noise: I can't comment on the road noise because of the light snow on the ground, but they felt as good as my winter tires that were also very silent. They seemed to be quite relative to the road condition.
Comfort: I purposely drove over a few light potholes. I can't say that I was shocked or surprised by how good they are, no, but there performed well and felt soft.
Thoughts: Am I not overly surprised because my previous baseline is also so comfortable? or that the baseline is hard to beat by too much anyway? Maybe. My Winter tires are winter performance tires ("VREDESTEIN WINTRAC PRO also non-RF"). These VREDESTEIN winter tires did better in Ride Quality than Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 and Michelin X-Ice SNOW according to TireRack Pro tests, and I do believe that given how good there were.
Snow braking: that was the one that exceeded my expectations. The tires handled the icy roads and snow really really really well, in a way I felt my Winter set can be useless? They really stopped and handled very well when I pushed the brakes hard over icy and snow turns/roads.
I'll report back after my first long highway trip. My tire pressure was 33 PSI for 3 tires (except right rear @36P PSI) by the way, so all the above may not be so relevant ... despite I handed them a note asking for 36 PSI all around. What's the chance that their gauge is accurate but my TPMS readings are off? I ordered a digital ANSI-certified calibrated gauge (Jaco Elite) from Amazon to verify. How accurate are your TPMS readings compared to hand-held accurate gauges?
First impressions are good
Well, TPMS reading can vary , sometimes I observe changes as I drive the car but mostly can be reliable to me . Hand held gauges more accurate but I had bought a Michelin's tire inflator product . I highly recommend it .TPMS relives me off checking the tires manually by" plugging in" a hose to check the pressures for each tires .
First impressions are good
Well, TPMS reading can vary , sometimes I observe changes as I drive the car but mostly can be reliable to me . Hand held gauges more accurate but I had bought a Michelin's tire inflator product . I highly recommend it .TPMS relives me off checking the tires manually by" plugging in" a hose to check the pressures for each tires .
Thats great! Keep us posted. Can you post some pics? 33 PSI is great for the tires, I would leave it there.
I was going to wait until I clean them, lol, but I will post picture shortly before my nest drive. I feel 33 PSI is too low for the integrity and comfort aspects, because lowest factory cold setting is 35 PSI too.
I spent 35 minutes on the phone with a very knowledgeable TireRack rep today. We were discussing all-season tires for the 20" staggered setup. He said the best feedback he gets in the high performance all-season category is from the Bridgestone RE980AS+ and the Continental DWS 06+. He said you could not go wrong with either; he had just bought the Continental himself. He said the Michelin is a good tire but I don't have people call back and rave about them.
So I ordered the Bridgestones. My first time not buying Michelin in 10 years.
I spent 35 minutes on the phone with a very knowledgeable TireRack rep today. We were discussing all-season tires for the 20" staggered setup. He said the best feedback he gets in the high performance all-season category is from the Bridgestone RE980AS+ and the Continental DWS 06+. He said you could not go wrong with either; he had just bought the Continental himself. He said the Michelin is a good tire but I don't have people call back and rave about them.
So I ordered the Bridgestones. My first time not buying Michelin in 10 years.
That is consistent with what every one of the 4 local tire shops told me. All four of them voted for Bridgestone RE980AS+ and the Continental DWS 06+. Costco, DiscountTires, Big O Tires and NTB. Also, TireRack has both of these specific brands/models as the top two in customers rating, as well as in their own professional tests. The reason I did not get Bridgestone is because if their history of not holding well for heavy vehicles on other cars, so the Continental DWS 06+ was the only one that had consistent feedback of being on of the best options if not the best. I tried them like I said already yesterday, it is hard to say that I am overly impressed, but they did well and I still need to drive them for longer durations on soft clean roads.
I was going to wait until I clean them, lol, but I will post picture shortly before my nest drive. I feel 33 PSI is too low for the integrity and comfort aspects, because lowest factory cold setting is 35 PSI too.
I run mine at 31 lol. No issues at all, comfort is notably better than at 35.
Mercedes has much lower psi specs for the tires in different markets, as low as 29. The PSI specs for the US have a lot to do with fuel economy.
I run mine at 31 lol. No issues at all, comfort is notably better than at 35.
Mercedes has much lower psi specs for the tires in different markets, as low as 29. The PSI specs for the US have a lot to do with fuel economy.
31!!!??? Wow... My certified gauge is not arriving until Tuesday. I'll keep them at 33 PSI for now and see how it goes. I will adjust back to 35-36 PSI on Tuesday and see how does that compare. I felt it was a bit more soft that it should be on pot-holes (but that could be taken as both: good and bad thing). I am a bit concerned about taking it lower than 35 PSI but am willing to try. My main concern is pot-holes @low PSI and hence maybe increased wheel damage risk..
I’ve driven the car for 34k miles on 31 and have never had any issues. The 19s have plenty of sidewall, you don’t really hear about rim issues on anything but the 20s.
I’ve driven the car for 34k miles on 31 and have never had any issues. The 19s have plenty of sidewall, you don’t really hear about rim issues on anything but the 20s.
I had to fix my 20" wheels more than 5 times when I had my S550 despite keeping my pressure ALWAYS 40 PSI and above. With those 19" I hope you are right about that.. lol... I was told AMG wheels in general are not that strong, but I hope it is a 20 vs 19" wheel issue... I'll keep them around that pressure and see how it goes on the comfort scale until at least 3 days.
Thats great! Keep us posted. Can you post some pics? 33 PSI is great for the tires, I would leave it there.
Here are some photos @SW20S . Not clean at all, but based on how the smooth and outside wall is, I imagine their design would look really nice with tire shine. The side tire threads also look good.
I had to fix my 20" wheels more than 5 times when I had my S550 despite keeping my pressure ALWAYS 40 PSI and above. With those 19" I hope you are right about that.. lol... I was told AMG wheels in general are not that strong, but I hope it is a 20 vs 19" wheel issue... I'll keep them around that pressure and see how it goes on the comfort scale until at least 3 days.
I think also the 40 PSI may have had an impact on rim damage, higher pressures the tires absorb less of the impact...
03-23-2023, 02:20 PM
... despite I handed them a note asking for 36 PSI all around. What's the chance that their gauge is accurate but my TPMS readings are off? I ordered a digital ANSI-certified calibrated gauge (Jaco Elite) from Amazon to verify. How accurate are your TPMS readings compared to hand-held accurate gauges?
