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My high beams never come on under any conditions while in automatic mode. They work fine however in manual mode; i.e. flicking the lever turns them on and off.
My car's windshield was replaced sometime in the past for the PO, and I'm wondering if there might be a need to re-calibrate a camera or sensor that's used by the automatic headlights. Does anyone know how the automatic lights work and what things to check? My Indy mechanic did pull codes the last time they had the car and did not tell me of any involving the headlights.
Last edited by Tom in Austin; Apr 22, 2023 at 04:26 PM.
My high beams never come on under any conditions while in automatic mode. They work fine however in manual mode; i.e. flicking the lever turns them on and off.
My car's windshield was replaced sometime in the past for the PO, and I'm wondering if there might be a need to re-calibrate a camera or sensor that's used by the automatic headlights. Does anyone know how the automatic lights work and what things to check? My Indy mechanic did pull codes the last time they had the car and did not tell me of any involving the headlights.
Only a full Xentry diagnostic will tell
likely the camera yes
My high beams never come on under any conditions while in automatic mode. They work fine however in manual mode; i.e. flicking the lever turns them on and off.
My car's windshield was replaced sometime in the past for the PO, and I'm wondering if there might be a need to re-calibrate a camera or sensor that's used by the automatic headlights. Does anyone know how the automatic lights work and what things to check? My Indy mechanic did pull codes the last time they had the car and did not tell me of any involving the headlights.
where did u replace your windshield?
I replaced my former W222 windshield using safelite.
i had error codes showing up later. They didn’t do calibration but it was my fault as it was part of the service options that I unchecked when i placed my order. Called them back and the did it for me next day. Calibrating camera sensors is a must. That must be it 99%. Dealer can do it too, or safelite. I paid $75 in **2019**.
UPDATE: I contacted safelite, and YES THEY OFFER Re-Calibration only service and FOR FREE if the windshield was purchased from them and up to a one full year. I don't know what happens if it is more than 1 year or how much they charge if any, but I can confirm that it is now 100% free for the first year if it was their windshield, though they charged me $75 3-4 years ago. I paid $75 after the fact in the past, and now according them the re-calibration is free for the 1st year. You can contact them on their 800 number 24/7 or i can send u copy of my exchanges with them. good luck. If your windshield was installed by someone else, try contacting them too. I never heard that re-calibration needs to be re-done after sometime if it was done correctly the first time.
My high beams never come on under any conditions while in automatic mode. They work fine however in manual mode; i.e. flicking the lever turns them on and off.
My car's windshield was replaced sometime in the past for the PO, and I'm wondering if there might be a need to re-calibrate a camera or sensor that's used by the automatic headlights. Does anyone know how the automatic lights work and what things to check? My Indy mechanic did pull codes the last time they had the car and did not tell me of any involving the headlights.
Did you remember to push the stalk forward to activate?
Nice Ride, pls elaborate ... what does pushing the stalk do in automatic mode? In my car, the stalk functions in manual mode.
S_W222, good to know that Safelite can do the camera calibration on an S-class, and I'll check what they charge. The only way I knew the windshield was replaced was from the Carfax, which showed it was done in 2020 by a Mercedes dealer, a few months before I bought the car. That said, I suppose this would show up on the VMI record, and if the problem is camera calibration, it would be surprising if an MB dealer didn't do it at the time.
Last edited by Tom in Austin; Apr 23, 2023 at 04:07 PM.
[QUOTE pls elaborate ... what does pushing the stalk do in automatic mode? In my car, the stalk functions in manual mode. [/QUOTE]
In my 2016 you must push the stalk forward to enable the Automatic mode. If the stalk is pulled back, high beams don't work in when in the Automatic setting on the lighting knob.
If OM procedure fails given windshield replacement multi function camera may need to be calibrated also note there is a software update available if not already performed.
Thanks guys, I had no idea there were two forms of the automatic mode ... one where high beams are not available at all, and one where they come on automatically when the stalk is in the forward position. Sure appreciate you all educating me on this!
Well, still no brights. I do get the A sign on the left side of the green indicator light with the stalk pushed forward.
Hoping it's just the camera setting/calibration. Stopped by and discussed with my Indy this morning, and their shop is equipped to do that as well as loading any software updates needed.
Thanks again everyone for explaining how the system works and what to try. I live in a central city area where headlights aren't that important, but when going out at night in the countryside it will sure be nice to have the automatic high beam function, as God intended ;-)
Well, still no brights. I do get the A sign on the left side of the green indicator light with the stalk pushed forward.
Hoping it's just the camera setting/calibration. Stopped by and discussed with my Indy this morning, and their shop is equipped to do that as well as loading any software updates needed.
Thanks again everyone for explaining how the system works and what to try. I live in a central city area where headlights aren't that important, but when going out at night in the countryside it will sure be nice to have the automatic high beam function, as God intended ;-)
Are you testing the Auto-mode in a route that has no street lights at all (like extreme dark) consistently around or above 25-35 MPH, and with no traffic at all around even very far away? Just trying to see if you are sure that all the conditions for the Auto high-beam operation do exist before you invest in re-calibration or so.
Well, still no brights. I do get the A sign on the left side of the green indicator light with the stalk pushed forward.
Hoping it's just the camera setting/calibration. Stopped by and discussed with my Indy this morning, and their shop is equipped to do that as well as loading any software updates needed.
Thanks again everyone for explaining how the system works and what to try. I live in a central city area where headlights aren't that important, but when going out at night in the countryside it will sure be nice to have the automatic high beam function, as God intended ;-)
Concerning updating with non-MB tools
Just that you know, your Indy probably only has AUTEL
the attempt to update headlights with AUTEL has a fail rate of 25-35%
not that I hope that this will happen but it happens
So if this happens, do not panic. Just send them to a dealer on their costs
I fix these wrong flashings and codings at least once a week
Are you testing the Auto-mode in a route that has no street lights at all (like extreme dark) consistently around or above 25-35 MPH, and with no traffic at all around even very far away? Just trying to see if you are sure that all the conditions for the Auto high-beam operation do exist before you invest in re-calibration or so.
Will try this feature tonight in my garage (garage lights on and off) see how ( and if ) is working and report back, S W222 is right, I wouldn't invest in a re-calibration procedure ( assuming they know what to do ) unless is absolutely necessary.....just my .02
Stopped by the dealer this afternoon and my SA confirmed you have to be going at least 19 mph for high beams to come on. Also, he said the system is 'conservative' and won't turn on high beams unless very dark.
Finally, he estimated one labor hour to diagnose and re-calibrate if that service appears necessary.
Stopped by the dealer this afternoon and my SA confirmed you have to be going at least 19 mph for high beams to come on. Also, he said the system is 'conservative' and won't turn on high beams unless very dark.
Finally, he estimated one labor hour to diagnose and re-calibrate if that service appears necessary.
Awesome and good luck!. That was my main point, to avoid any unnecessarily 3rd party shops and services with avoidable costs you may not need until you 100% confirm that the headlights are not working as intended when the right operating conditions exist. The dealer is right and clearly he’s not interested in misleading you to pay for unnecessary diagnosis and re-calibration unless you confirm u need it, which is a sign of a good dealer practice. Test the headlights operation at 25-30 MPH consistently or higher, dark roads, no lights around and no vehicles. If it doesn’t work, then 1hr dealer recalibration appears to be really fair.
Am not sure why he told you 19MPH through!?? I don’t recall what was the factory default minimum speed spec’s for auto highbeam but I feel 19 mph might be too low so try higher speeds just to be safe. I honestly forgot what was the factory thresholds as I got mine coded to 10 MPH limit, but I recall it was close to the 20s. Try 25-30 or higher just to be safe.
Will try this feature tonight in my garage (garage lights on and off) see how ( and if ) is working and report back, S W222 is right, I wouldn't invest in a re-calibration procedure ( assuming they know what to do ) unless is absolutely necessary.....just my .02
Awesome and good luck!. That was my main point, to avoid any unnecessarily 3rd party shops and services with avoidable costs you may not need until you 100% confirm that the headlights are not working as intended when the right operating conditions exist. The dealer is right and clearly he’s not interested in misleading you to pay for unnecessary diagnosis and re-calibration unless you confirm u need it, which is a sign of a good dealer practice. Test the headlights operation at 25-30 MPH consistently or higher, dark roads, no lights around and no vehicles. If it doesn’t work, then 1hr dealer recalibration appears to be really fair.
Am not sure why he told you 19MPH through!?? I don’t recall what was the factory default minimum speed spec’s for auto highbeam but I feel 19 mph might be too low so try higher speeds just to be safe. I honestly forgot what was the factory thresholds as I got mine coded to 10 MPH limit, but I recall it was close to the 20s. Try 25-30 or higher just to be safe.
Who did and How did you code to 10MPH.... What made you aware that you could..... Learning more and more each day grasshopper....
My automatic high beams do not work either on my 15. When I bought my 15 the right headlight had moisture in it and caused the modules to short out. Before this happened the automatic lights worked great.
I ended up doing the facelift to the 18 front end and after doing the conversion the automatic high beam does not work. It works fine manually.
Vehicle has no codes stored. I have learned to live with using the stalk.
Curious to see what they find. I doubt it’s due to the windshield (just a guess).
Alright, embarrassing to have to admit the lights do work and I just didn't know the right conditions to see them. To me, they aren't very aggressive and drop back to low beams with even a modest amount of ambient light.
Kind of like the lane centering function, sorta works but not well enough to be very useful. Maybe after BenzNinja codes them for ILS I'll be more excited ;-)
Alright, embarrassing to have to admit the lights do work and I just didn't know the right conditions to see them. To me, they aren't very aggressive and drop back to low beams with even a modest amount of ambient light.
Kind of like the lane centering function, sorta works but not well enough to be very useful. Maybe after BenzNinja codes them for ILS I'll be more excited ;-)
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