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S560 Long 4Matic (DE) MY 2018
In July I had a small accident and ripped one of my rear tyres (roadworks with sharp freshly cut asphalt), an Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 MOE, that is, runflat.
I replaced them with one of the P-Zero variants and the difference in quietness and comfort is incredible.
Same here.
I replaced them with one of the P-Zero variants and the difference in quietness and comfort is incredible.
Same here.
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I had those Goodyar Eagle F1's on my car as well, and the ride was terrible. I didn't replace with RFT's, just regular tires. But I think anything would have been an improvement offer the Goodyear F1 MOE tires. Let us know how the Pirelli RFT's wear and feel long term.
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Run flats won't help you much from not having a spare tire...see my thoughts on it from this other thread:
This is a mental thing.
The reality is runflats will only help you in the event of a puncture, which is never going to leave you stranded anyways. Punctures can be patched at the roadside or a gas station. All the runflat does is get you from the roadside to a safe spot or a gas station. I have maybe had 3 flat tires in 25 years of driving, and I have spent many of those years driving 25,000+ miles a year. Of those 3 flat tires I have only had to put the spare on one time, the other two times roadside assistance plugged the tire at the roadside. The time I had to put the spare on was a total sidewall rupture, which would have also rendered a runflat useless.
So, without a spare the one time I needed a spare I would have been just as stranded on the roadside if I had runflats.
The slime/inflator kits will get you moving and to a safe place to have the tire patched if getting it done at the roadside is impossible. But, with a patch kit you can easily plug a tire yourself.
I don't have a spare in either the S560 or our Pacifica. The Pacifica never had runflats, it just has no spare. The S560 I replaced the runflats and bought a inflator/slime pump and a patch kit. I drive it on rural road trips with total confidence. If you need a tire out in the middle of nowhere, you're gonna be stuck a couple days unless you have a full sized spare which few cars have anymore. A temporary spare will only again get you to safety.
This is the pump/slime kit I have:
https://www.griotsgarage.com/12v-tir...SABEgJNZPD_BwE
And the patch kit:
https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...iABEgLRlvD_BwE
The Pacifica came with an inflator/slime unit but I also bought the patch kit for it too. If I ever got a nail or something, I would just patch it myself, the difficulty is doing that without being able to take the tire off the car...
This is a mental thing.
The reality is runflats will only help you in the event of a puncture, which is never going to leave you stranded anyways. Punctures can be patched at the roadside or a gas station. All the runflat does is get you from the roadside to a safe spot or a gas station. I have maybe had 3 flat tires in 25 years of driving, and I have spent many of those years driving 25,000+ miles a year. Of those 3 flat tires I have only had to put the spare on one time, the other two times roadside assistance plugged the tire at the roadside. The time I had to put the spare on was a total sidewall rupture, which would have also rendered a runflat useless.
So, without a spare the one time I needed a spare I would have been just as stranded on the roadside if I had runflats.
The slime/inflator kits will get you moving and to a safe place to have the tire patched if getting it done at the roadside is impossible. But, with a patch kit you can easily plug a tire yourself.
I don't have a spare in either the S560 or our Pacifica. The Pacifica never had runflats, it just has no spare. The S560 I replaced the runflats and bought a inflator/slime pump and a patch kit. I drive it on rural road trips with total confidence. If you need a tire out in the middle of nowhere, you're gonna be stuck a couple days unless you have a full sized spare which few cars have anymore. A temporary spare will only again get you to safety.
This is the pump/slime kit I have:
https://www.griotsgarage.com/12v-tir...SABEgJNZPD_BwE
And the patch kit:
https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...iABEgLRlvD_BwE
The Pacifica came with an inflator/slime unit but I also bought the patch kit for it too. If I ever got a nail or something, I would just patch it myself, the difficulty is doing that without being able to take the tire off the car...
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Thanks for your opinion. I want to be able to get off the interstate to the nearest exit, be it 1 or 50 miles away. Then find a safe place to determine whether I have a tire that may be able to be repaired.
I have been looking at the Mercedes Tirefit as well.
I have been looking at the Mercedes Tirefit as well.
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If you want a spare, you really should just get a spare, runflats are not a replacement for a spare
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I see no reason myself to switch from the tires that were put on my car at 16K miles when I bought the car. They are Continental Pro Contact GX run flat tires. They ride fine and the car handles great. At 62K miles now the fronts appear to a little more than halfway worn although the mileage I'm getting out of the rears is significantly worse, I replaced them after 25K miles and may need to replace the current ones within 10K miles or so, my car is RWD and a lot of power going to those rear wheels so the rear tires wear at more the twice as fast as the fronts.
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I see no reason myself to switch from the tires that were put on my car at 16K miles when I bought the car. They are Continental Pro Contact GX run flat tires. They ride fine and the car handles great. At 62K miles now the fronts appear to a little more than halfway worn although the mileage I'm getting out of the rears is significantly worse, I replaced them after 25K miles and may need to replace the current ones within 10K miles or so, my car is RWD and a lot of power going to those rear wheels so the rear tires wear at more the twice as fast as the fronts.
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Well maybe you’re right. On the highway the car rides amazing. Around town the local roads are kinda choppy and you feel those potholes a lot. Maybe I will try a non run flat when I replace all 4 in about a year.
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You may or may not be able to do that with a runflat is the point. A flat on the interstate is typically not from a slow leak, its a larger issue often a sidewall issue and a runflat isn't going to help you there. I just don't see the point in the expense or reduction in performance of runflats when its such a rare scenario when you actually need them. The car rides like a different car without the runflats.
If you want a spare, you really should just get a spare, runflats are not a replacement for a spare
If you want a spare, you really should just get a spare, runflats are not a replacement for a spare
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You may or may not be able to do that with a runflat is the point. A flat on the interstate is typically not from a slow leak, its a larger issue often a sidewall issue and a runflat isn't going to help you there. I just don't see the point in the expense or reduction in performance of runflats when its such a rare scenario when you actually need them. The car rides like a different car without the runflats.
If you want a spare, you really should just get a spare, runflats are not a replacement for a spare
If you want a spare, you really should just get a spare, runflats are not a replacement for a spare
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If you read through historical forum threads for these tires sizes (whether it's for the W222 or another Mbenz or even another brand), you will ALWAYS find good reviews for two specific options that I am yet to see anyone reporting any issues with unlike other options; those are:
1. Pirelli Pzero All Season Plus; and 2. Continental Extremecontact DWS06+.
I went with Continental Extremecontact DWS06+ for the W222, and also read excellent reviews and test-results about the Pirelli's ones. I would not consider any other tire outside those two (unless there is a reputable one with foam "sound insulation" that other's have tried for the W222. Based on photos, I like the side geometry of the Pirelli (they look nicer when cleaned), but I feel the Continental is the softer and more quite option based on reviews. I would go with Continental again, but would also take the Pirelli's if the Continental aren't available. Price is relatively similar for both (~1100-1500 depending on where you get them from, and sale events)
1. Pirelli Pzero All Season Plus; and 2. Continental Extremecontact DWS06+.
I went with Continental Extremecontact DWS06+ for the W222, and also read excellent reviews and test-results about the Pirelli's ones. I would not consider any other tire outside those two (unless there is a reputable one with foam "sound insulation" that other's have tried for the W222. Based on photos, I like the side geometry of the Pirelli (they look nicer when cleaned), but I feel the Continental is the softer and more quite option based on reviews. I would go with Continental again, but would also take the Pirelli's if the Continental aren't available. Price is relatively similar for both (~1100-1500 depending on where you get them from, and sale events)
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