Notices
S-Class (W222) 2014-2020

Motor oil preference

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Oct 13, 2024 | 02:41 PM
  #1  
Mookie1987's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 88
Likes: 16
From: Charlotte
2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4MATIC, 2021 GLC300 4MATIC Coupe and 2006 S500 RWD
Motor oil preference

I’m coming up on my first oil change. I been seeing this brand Motul has anyone tried it. I was going to go with LiquiMoly. What you guys think of Motul?
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2024 | 03:01 PM
  #2  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by Mookie1987
I’m coming up on my first oil change. I been seeing this brand Motul has anyone tried it. I was going to go with LiquiMoly. What you guys think of Motul?
+1 for Motul
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2024 | 05:01 PM
  #3  
NbyNW's Avatar
Senior Member
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 456
Likes: 253
From: SD
Various
Yeah, Motul is good stuff. I used it when I did track stuff and I use it whenever I can. Banging off red line at nearly every shift it held up great. My wife in the passenger seat.






Reply
Old Oct 13, 2024 | 11:50 PM
  #4  
Mookie1987's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 88
Likes: 16
From: Charlotte
2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4MATIC, 2021 GLC300 4MATIC Coupe and 2006 S500 RWD
Originally Posted by NbyNW
Yeah, Motul is good stuff. I used it when I did track stuff and I use it whenever I can. Banging off red line at nearly every shift it held up great. My wife in the passenger seat.



I wish my wife like speed too… she is a scaredy cat lol 😂 I’ll give Motul a try
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 06:58 AM
  #5  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Motul really is a great oil, my engine ran smoother and quieter although that might have to do with the oil pump solenoid mod, but Motul imo is better than mobil1.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 07:22 AM
  #6  
Mookie1987's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 88
Likes: 16
From: Charlotte
2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4MATIC, 2021 GLC300 4MATIC Coupe and 2006 S500 RWD
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Motul really is a great oil, my engine ran smoother and quieter although that might have to do with the oil pump solenoid mod, but Motul imo is better than mobil1.
Mobil 1 is good for the first 1000 miles or so but it seems to me it breaks down really fast and is not good at start up protection.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 07:59 AM
  #7  
OldManAndHisCar's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 1,345
From: Fleriduh
W212 E63S Wagon - GSL580 - E63 - E350 - C300
What car? If it is the S550 (M278)? If so, did you do the solenoid mod? (you should)
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 08:09 AM
  #8  
Mookie1987's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 88
Likes: 16
From: Charlotte
2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4MATIC, 2021 GLC300 4MATIC Coupe and 2006 S500 RWD
Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
What car? If it is the S550 (M278)? If so, did you do the solenoid mod? (you should)
I was running Mobil 1 and Valvoline in my 2006 S500. For the m278 I was going to run Motul. I need to check out the solenoid mod. Where do I get it from?
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 08:11 AM
  #9  
OldManAndHisCar's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 1,345
From: Fleriduh
W212 E63S Wagon - GSL580 - E63 - E350 - C300
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...solenoids.html
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 08:12 AM
  #10  
Mookie1987's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 88
Likes: 16
From: Charlotte
2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4MATIC, 2021 GLC300 4MATIC Coupe and 2006 S500 RWD
Thanks I’m about to check it out
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 08:15 AM
  #11  
OldManAndHisCar's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 1,345
From: Fleriduh
W212 E63S Wagon - GSL580 - E63 - E350 - C300
Originally Posted by Mookie1987
Thanks I’m about to check it out

The thread is more than one engine. I have both (the AMG 5.5 and the same 4.7 you have). Both have the mod - it is a LONG read (and gets very technical).
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 08:33 AM
  #12  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
Originally Posted by Mookie1987
Thanks I’m about to check it out
Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
The thread is more than one engine. I have both (the AMG 5.5 and the same 4.7 you have). Both have the mod - it is a LONG read (and gets very technical).
Oh you would love the mod, it transformed my car, yes long read indeed, I wouldn't be surprised it is already the longest thread on mbworld.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 10:27 AM
  #13  
Tom in Austin's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 521
2019 S560, 2015 Honda Civic Hybrid
So the solenoid mod is to lock the oil pump in the reduced-pressure mode? Is that wise?
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 10:49 AM
  #14  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by Tom in Austin
So the solenoid mod is to lock the oil pump in the reduced-pressure mode? Is that wise?
no, if you read the faq on that thread linked on the front page, it explains it. but tl;dr it locks the oil pump in normal pressure mode. All the solenoid does is to reduce the oil pressure at low rpms which shortens the engine's life but saves fuel.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 10:51 AM
  #15  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
If you were do this mod, on the S-Class you might need the dummy solenoid to prevent the check engine light from showing up, this dummy solenoid will be attached outside of the engine.https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...es-me-cel.html

This 2-stage oil pump solenoid is on most modern MBs, so it is applicable in many vehicles. If you have questions and concerns, you may reply in that thread, the experts there will help you.

Last edited by W205C43PFL; Oct 14, 2024 at 10:55 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 11:25 AM
  #16  
Tom in Austin's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 521
2019 S560, 2015 Honda Civic Hybrid
Ok, thanks, I just couldn't follow what exactly 'unplugging' the solenoid was meant to do ...
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 11:31 AM
  #17  
OldManAndHisCar's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 1,345
From: Fleriduh
W212 E63S Wagon - GSL580 - E63 - E350 - C300
Originally Posted by Tom in Austin
Ok, thanks, I just couldn't follow what exactly 'unplugging' the solenoid was meant to do ...

I found the "dummy solenoid" for like $30. Others found them as well. There are links in the thread.

Neither of my cars lit up the CEL for the solenoid but there was a "silent" code if you scan the engine.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 01:30 PM
  #18  
NbyNW's Avatar
Senior Member
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 456
Likes: 253
From: SD
Various
Wow, what a read. Now I need to go back and find the dummy solenoid link or is it really needed? Just unplug it, cap it, and live with the silent code?
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2024 | 01:53 PM
  #19  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by NbyNW
Wow, what a read. Now I need to go back and find the dummy solenoid link or is it really needed? Just unplug it, cap it, and live with the silent code?
If you do end up doing this mod and have an CEL, here is the part number for the oem solenoid (credit goes to forum member of that post): https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...ml#post8914580
or you go aftermarket (credit goes to forum member of that post): https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post8981405
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2024 | 04:22 PM
  #20  
MrMischief's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 357
Likes: 56
From: Bucks County PA not far from the Delaware River North & East of Philly by an hour.
‘68 Pontiac convertible, ‘71 Corvette 4 spd, ‘20 Accord Touring, 06 Duramax crew-c
I believe as long as it’s a good name brand and has all the right certifications and seals recommended for your car you are safe. There’s a lot of conjecture here , it’s a daily driver man! Change the oil and filter when it’s called for - more often under certain circumstances* and most of the 52 brands will be fine.

*Unless you’re in the 24hrs at Le Mans
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2024 | 05:44 PM
  #21  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by MrMischief
I believe as long as it’s a good name brand and has all the right certifications and seals recommended for your car you are safe. There’s a lot of conjecture here , it’s a daily driver man! Change the oil and filter when it’s called for - more often under certain circumstances* and most of the 52 brands will be fine.

*Unless you’re in the 24hrs at Le Mans
Just like fuel (in the other thread discussed) there are different properties in the oil, there is also all sorts of ratings like SP rated that helps prevent LSPI, these oil have low amount of a certain element as a result. There is a reason why we can't put vegetable oil in our engines and call it a day : ) I do agree with shortening the interval though.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2024 | 05:58 PM
  #22  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Just like fuel (in the other thread discussed) there are different properties in the oil, there is also all sorts of ratings like SP rated that helps prevent LSPI, these oil have low amount of a certain element as a result. There is a reason why we can't put vegetable oil in our engines and call it a day : ) I do agree with shortening the interval though.
Edited to add: That element is calcium.

I just realized you have a thread talking about this: https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...otor-oils.html

Last edited by W205C43PFL; Oct 16, 2024 at 06:00 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2024 | 11:03 AM
  #23  
MrMischief's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 357
Likes: 56
From: Bucks County PA not far from the Delaware River North & East of Philly by an hour.
‘68 Pontiac convertible, ‘71 Corvette 4 spd, ‘20 Accord Touring, 06 Duramax crew-c

i use this or Mobile1 or Valvoline for 35 plus years. I use to bracket race my twin turbo 1028 hp 1994 TransAm and my Super charged 2006 Z06 Corvette with these oils and never had any problems. I don’t see how anyone can tell any difference if you use the same, manufacturer’s recommended weight oil unless you tear-down the motor and examine all the internal parts.
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Just like fuel (in the other thread discussed) there are different properties in the oil, there is also all sorts of ratings like SP rated that helps prevent LSPI, these oil have low amount of a certain element as a result. There is a reason why we can't put vegetable oil in our engines and call it a day : ) I do agree with shortening the interval though.
basically I already stated about the certifications and there are 50 oils that are SP certified and Mercedes recommends Mobile1 that combats LSPI very well just like Pennzoil, Valvoline any many others. Hype is consumer driven. Any motor oil that meets or exceeds the automotive engineering specifications for the engine in question is the oil you should use.

Last edited by MrMischief; Oct 18, 2024 at 01:38 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2024 | 12:05 PM
  #24  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,275
Originally Posted by MrMischief
basically I already stated about the certifications and there are 50 oils that are SP certified and Mercedes recommends Mobile1 that combats LSPI very well just like Pennzoil, Valvoline any many others. Hype is consumer driven. Any motor oil that meets or exceeds the automotive engineering specifications for the engine in question is the oil you should use.
I understand but I do have better experience with certain engine oils.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2024 | 08:04 AM
  #25  
NbyNW's Avatar
Senior Member
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 456
Likes: 253
From: SD
Various
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
If you do end up doing this mod and have an CEL, here is the part number for the oem solenoid (credit goes to forum member of that post): https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...ml#post8914580
or you go aftermarket (credit goes to forum member of that post): https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post8981405
Has anyone out there done this on a M176 motor? I have the parts and need to find where it is on the motor. I removed the under trays and spent some time looking around - pretty tight and nothing obvious.

This probably deserves a dedicated M176 motor thread.



Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:59 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE