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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 07:32 PM
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I think when I replace my brake pads I’m going to replace my rotors too. Probably go with Bosch OEM and this will be mostly highway miles. Put on new tires today and took some photos rotors while the wheels were off and I’m interested in any opinions. Trying to learn from those that have more experience.





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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:28 AM
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Those Rotors look done. I would swap with the Powerstop kit from Rock Auto. Should be able to do all 4 corners for around 600.00 with fluid. Includes new Rotors and Ceramic Pads that will eliminate the brake dust you are probably seeing now with no degradation in performance.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 09:00 AM
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Look for a lip on the outer edge, if it's 1 mm - or approaching that - then I'd replace them.

You could take a precise thickness measurement with calipers in several places (usually 2 mm below original thickness is the minimum), but the size of the lip is a fairly reliable indication.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 09:31 AM
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When the scoring is so severe it shows in photos, they're toast. These rotors and pads were OE?
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 03:14 PM
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When the scoring is so severe it shows in photos, they're toast. These rotors and pads were OE?
I’m not sure but my guess is that these are original. This car has 32k miles on it and it’s been well taken care of in every respect I can determine. The people who have looked it over have said it’s near perfect save for the brakes and tires. Tires are done so I just have this left. I’m going to do fluids as well just so I know what’s in it and when it was put in.

I showed these to BenzNinja and he said to replace them as well. Now I’m back to figuring out what to go with for pads and rotors. I’m leaning towards Bosch as I’ve heard mixed reviews on the PowerStop. This will be driven by my wife who drives like an old lady (when she doesn’t take my truck) and by me on longer drives to Houston which is five hours of highway. Otherwise it will be going to church a couple of times a week. Yeah - we are kinda boring I guess. 😂

Looking at FCPEuro I see kits for the front but not for the back. I don’t think I even see rotors for the back for my car - 2018 S450 4Matic.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 05:58 PM
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I’m not sure but my guess is that these are original. This car has 32k miles on it and it’s been well taken care of in every respect I can determine. The people who have looked it over have said it’s near perfect save for the brakes and tires. Tires are done so I just have this left. I’m going to do fluids as well just so I know what’s in it and when it was put in.

I showed these to BenzNinja and he said to replace them as well. Now I’m back to figuring out what to go with for pads and rotors. I’m leaning towards Bosch as I’ve heard mixed reviews on the PowerStop. This will be driven by my wife who drives like an old lady (when she doesn’t take my truck) and by me on longer drives to Houston which is five hours of highway. Otherwise it will be going to church a couple of times a week. Yeah - we are kinda boring I guess. 😂

Looking at FCPEuro I see kits for the front but not for the back. I don’t think I even see rotors for the back for my car - 2018 S450 4Matic.
I've read several posts on the forum from owners that buy replacement brake components from FCPEuro, and they're all favorable. I don't recall if there is preferred brand. Others who have done brake jobs with FCPEuro parts might want to comment here.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 06:29 PM
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Brake parts are one thing I made sure to buy from FCP for the lifetime warranty. Sure you get store credit back but better than nothing. I bought Zimmerman rotors just because they were less than genuine Mercedes, which now they are a few dollars more than Mercedes. I like them, they seem to be wearing well. I went with OE labeled pads, Ferodo semi-metallic front and ATE semi-metallic rears. They did look just like the genuine Mercedes parts i removed from the car. I never had ceramic pads so cant compare but the semi-metallic stop great so I wouldnt want to change. The rims do get filthy but I just go out with my bucket of car wash soap and clean them off with a sponge. I dont let the rims get so dirty that a harsh cleaner is even needed.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 06:31 PM
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So, my .02 cents for what is worth. I have PowerStop pads and rotors on my Infiniti Q70 5.6 sport package and they are absolutely amazing. You can find the whole set for your S Class on Amazon at around $850, they are for the S560 you may need to check if they are also the same for your car.
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On the other hand it is nice to seek advice from other people on the forum but I would only trust folks those that, at least, they have the same car that you have !
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 06:45 PM
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I always used OEM pads, but I do hate hate hate dirty wheels. I was willing to throw a rock out the window with a rope to not use the brakes.
I think the ceramic pads are fine for daily driving in the US. If I was able to do 255 mph on highway, I would go back to OEM.

Any good brand ceramic is probably fine. Brembo, PowerStop etc.....
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 06:50 PM
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As with pretty much all German cars, pad swaps are never recommended. If your car is due for new pads, then it's also due for new rotors. For my last brake change, I purchased OEM equipment online at a heavy discount and had paid an indy shop to do the labor. Saved me around $300 per axle.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tx170754
So, my .02 cents for what is worth. I have PowerStop pads and rotors on my Infiniti Q70 5.6 sport package and they are absolutely amazing. You can find the whole set for your S Class on Amazon at around $850, they are for the S560 you may need to check if they are also the same for your car.
Good luck !
On the other hand it is nice to seek advice from other people on the forum but I would only trust folks those that, at least, they have the same car that you have !

Much respect on the Q ship. Many don't know about the M56/Q70 5.6. Amazing sleeper!
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:04 PM
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Don't waste money, measure your discs. The wear holes are still visible on the fronts so those are likely ok.


Also note the OEM discs are two part, you would increase unsprung weight with a single piece aftermarket.
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:28 PM
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Much respect on the Q ship. Many don't know about the M56/Q70 5.6. Amazing sleeper!
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 09:34 PM
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As with pretty much all German cars, pad swaps are never recommended. If your car is due for new pads, then it's also due for new rotors.
Ah ha! See this is something I would never have imagined coming from a Toyota Tundra mindset. That explains why every video I’ve seen on changing the pads they are also changing the rotors. Makes sense now. 👍 When I was a kid, we would only resurface the rotor if it was ugly and replace if it was warped. That’s when I would attempt at servicing my own cars as cheaply as possible. Now I’m wanting to do this the correct way.
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Originally Posted by waterzap99
I always used OEM pads, but I do hate hate hate dirty wheels. I was willing to throw a rock out the window with a rope to not use the brakes.
I think the ceramic pads are fine for daily driving in the US. If I was able to do 255 mph on highway, I would go back to OEM.

Any good brand ceramic is probably fine. Brembo, PowerStop etc.....
If you are a talented drifter, you could stop sideways, for all the traffic lights, not even touch the brakes until you finish the drift.
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I will +1 on anything Powerstop. No more scored rotors, 60k+ lifespan, great stopping, clean wheels, no more noise.
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I will +1 on anything Powerstop. No more scored rotors, 60k+ lifespan, great stopping, clean wheels, no more noise.
I was 100% going to go with PowerStop, but I wonder if it’s luck as I’ve seen some people complain about them too. I wonder if fhey sometimes have a bad batch of those or
they had some history once of bad QC?

Do the PowerStops have any affect on any driver aids like ESP, Lane Keeping, etc? I may see if they have any information about that themselves while I’m thinking about it.

Thanks for sharing your opinion on them.
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Also note the OEM discs are two part, you would increase unsprung weight with a single piece aftermarket.
Just FYI the OEM rotor, at least on the non AMG car, is a one piece rotor.
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I have them on my Q70 , 5.6 with sport package, there is absolutely no interference with any of the driver aids ( similar to the ones on my S560 )
Just to let you know they're rust proof but I've put two coats of base and three coats of top VHT caliper paint ( silver colour )
They're on my car for more than 5 years with absolutely no rust !
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No, the ones pictured here with the 'gear' looking interface between disc and hat is a two piece rotor.

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Just FYI the OEM rotor, at least on the non AMG car, is a one piece rotor.
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The problem with Power Stop, along with almost every other after-market braking kit is that they are manufactured in China. And anyone who knows anything about Chinese steel and manufacturing processes knows they are not even close to the quality you get for parts manufactured in the US and Germany. I just wouldn't trust anything made in China to stop a nearly 5000 lb car over the long term.
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No, the ones pictured here with the 'gear' looking interface between disc and hat is a two piece rotor.
I had the same rotors on my S560 and I replaced them, they are a one piece rotor



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The problem with Power Stop, along with almost every other after-market braking kit is that they are manufactured in China. And anyone who knows anything about Chinese steel and manufacturing processes knows they are not even close to the quality you get for parts manufactured in the US and Germany. I just wouldn't trust anything made in China to stop a nearly 5000 lb car over the long term.
Yup… I was looking for a few reviews and came across this. It’s anecdotal but leaving here in case anyone would like to see a review that isn’t glowing. I think they may have a good marketing team.

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After watching the video, he likely got a defective set. Not good at all.

The Powerstops I installed do not feel spongy in any way, and they stop perfectly fine. I do come from a motorsports background, so I'm more sensitive than the average person to how a car responds to inputs, and the set on my car is not a problem. They've been on for more than a year (about 10k miles) and I'm satisfied.
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