When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Doesn't look all that different from the current car on the outside. Which is interesting given that it is on a whole new chassis. The W222 looked a lot different (better in my opinion) than the the W221 but was on the same chassis. With the radical departure inside the car, it looks like they wanted to maintain some level of continuity.
2015 S550 Palladium/Deep Sea Blue, 2016 Tesla Model S 70D, 2015 Volvo XC70
Originally Posted by MBNUT1
Doesn't look all that different from the current car on the outside. Which is interesting given that it is on a whole new chassis. The W222 looked a lot different (better in my opinion) than the the W221 but was on the same chassis. With the radical departure inside the car, it looks like they wanted to maintain some level of continuity.
Plus, maybe they figured that with the EQS coming, they might keep the S more conservative, while offering the EQS for customers that want something much more differentiated from the W222.
These latest pics look a whole lot better then some of these earlier reveals on the junkyard and I don't mind the look. As mentioned, this is externally more like a facelift which works for me as I think the W222 has been the best looking and classy S-Class to-date.
I like it and hope that the EQS on the other side will as close as possible to the EQS Vision.
Why does Mercedes keep flipping the grilles upside down? Even on the new amg gt black series it is flipped.
Great observation. So I have frustrated by how the star on hood has been sinking from the drivers view over the years. The only thing I can think of is that it has to do with pedestrian safety and aerodynamics.
Great observation. So I have frustrated by how the star on hood has been sinking from the drivers view over the years. The only thing I can think of is that it has to do with pedestrian safety and aerodynamics.
Pedestrian Safety has a significant impact on the design and aerodynamics (drag coefficient). Obviously this is key for fuel economy (even more important for EV's).
For the curious here is a quick run down of how S-Class models have improved. W116 @0.412, W126 @0.359, W140 @0.30, W220 @0.27, W221 @0.26 , W222 @0.24
Latest Mercedes production cars are at 0.22 (I think). The Model 3 is a bit more slippery at 0.21 but not good lookin for that reason...
Where I really noticed it for the first time was on the W203. I could only see the top 2/3 of the star from the drivers seat. Same is true for my W212. The S's have been better in this regard.
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Originally Posted by MBNUT1
Where I really noticed it for the first time was on the W203. I could only see the top 2/3 of the star from the drivers seat. Same is true for my W212. The S's have been better in this regard.
We just picked up a 2019 E450 wagon and we see maybe only 1/3rd of the star from the driver’s seat. For 2021, the E Class in the USA will no longer be available with the traditional or “Luxury” trim grill. It will still be produced and available in Germany and other markets, but not in here, which I feel is a shame. IMO, that little star should be sitting in a position where the entire emblem is visible by the driver, on every MB, other than the sporting cars.
We just picked up a 2019 E450 wagon and we see maybe only 1/3rd of the star from the driver’s seat. For 2021, the E Class in the USA will no longer be available with the traditional or “Luxury” trim grill. It will still be produced and available in Germany and other markets, but not in here, which I feel is a shame. IMO, that little star should be sitting in a position where the entire emblem is visible by the driver, on every MB, other than the sporting cars.
Oh man, that will look great dropped with some 22's
We just picked up a 2019 E450 wagon and we see maybe only 1/3rd of the star from the driver’s seat. For 2021, the E Class in the USA will no longer be available with the traditional or “Luxury” trim grill. It will still be produced and available in Germany and other markets, but not in here, which I feel is a shame. IMO, that little star should be sitting in a position where the entire emblem is visible by the driver, on every MB, other than the sporting cars.
I am in full agreement. I have spent many a mile in years gone by, seeing not only the whole star standing proud but the simulated radiator cap, all the while feeling very connected to the craftsmen that made the car.
2015 S550 Palladium/Deep Sea Blue, 2016 Tesla Model S 70D, 2015 Volvo XC70
Seems to me that some of the complaints about star "visibility" would be due to the shape of the hood. The only way to counter that would be to make the "stalk" part of the ornament taller, which imo might not be such a pretty look.
Seems to me that some of the complaints about star "visibility" would be due to the shape of the hood. The only way to counter that would be to make the "stalk" part of the ornament taller, which imo might not be such a pretty look.
That was implicit in the points about pedestrian safety and aerodynamics. Agree on the impact of the remedy and the size of the star would be out of proportion with height of the grill.
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
It is quite obvious that MB is doing pretty much everything it can to do away with the traditional “star” hood ornament. I believe that they think it old and out of style, much as they think of their older customers. I sometimes get the idea that they would just prefer it if anyone over 65 bought a Toyota! As much as I love their vehicles, one of these days, I just may give them their wish. If that little star ever leaves the hood of the S Class, I’m definitely outta here. Yeah. It means THAT much to me.
That was implicit in the points about pedestrian safety and aerodynamics. Agree on the impact of the remedy and the size of the star would be out of proportion with height of the grill.
Off topic but I remember getting a Jaguar XJ12 Coupe and in Germany the Jaguar hood figure was illegal due to potential injury to pedestrians.
07-22-2020, 05:46 AM
