Thanks for the info on the the V-8.

 

What I expect to be a big improvement of this car will be the driving dynamics due to the new (finally) chassis.

 

Not sure if it is new given its still a W22_... can anyone confirm if it is on the same chassis as the W222?

 

Oh yes, don't love it, but will (test) drive one

 

No. That was one of the points to get rid of the old standalone platform leftover from the W221. The new S rides on the new MRA2 platform...

 

Watching the video I am sure Streamliner should be happy with their absolute focus of the Mercedes star on the hood

Overall I find the new S retaining a lot of the W222 elements but in the process making the car cleaner, more modern and dynamic looking. Even like the tail While one can quibble over some visual details, a lot of the new tech is very relevant rather than superfluous. Chassis, engines, suspension, multiple rearwheel steering options, focus on ride quality and a cleaner interior design. While sparse to some it does have a much more modern feel to it. Given the overall younger age demographic of S-Class buyers, this makes sense.

The MBUX is miles ahead of the old Comand system and this one adds a number of UI/speed improvements. While some complain about the center screen (which visually might be understandable), the placement makes perfect sense. It is supposed to be fully usable with your arm on the center armrest and without the need of extending it. Our GLE has the dual screen a la W222 and the touch screen is definitely more cumbersome to touch.

Love the lighting features and augmented reality HUD.

Overall, the car appears to be what I have hoped for. Looking forward to more info on the AMG's and the EQS now

 

Haha. for those guys predicting that MB has already lost the S class market with w223, what do you guys think now?
is it still game over for MB?

 

Its an amazing car!!! Wish it was more distinctive in regards to model but its the norm now.

Pricing and release date???

 

I wonder where all the connectivity features get their info. Does it require a Mercedes Me type plan for $$/month? Or does it get it automatically for free or via your phone? Unless they have improved their previous connectivity, it could be either problematic or costly.

 

Yes. I think so. S Class is supposed to be a prsidential/ royal class. This can be achieved by making it more luxurious and classy. Would you value Rolex watch if it is electronic? You want it to stay mechanical because this what makes it classy. I'm not saying here that technology is not important but it shouldn't be priority one because S Class is the flagship and considered one of the most luxurious cars out there in the opinion of all the world. Having said this, look at the interior and rear end of the w223 . Is this what supposed to be the highest end car in the market?

 

Ughhhh I hate touch screens in cars, and now mercedes is doubling down.

****ing hell.

 

Hard to believe what I am reading. The S-Class has always been a technology leader and a benchmark for all other luxury cars. It also happens to be luxurious. This is exactly what this car appears to be. The benchmark
This has absolute zero relation to a Rolex watch... The analogy doesn't even make sense. Rolex is a fine high-precision, old-school traditional watch that is neither high-tech nor the benchmark for luxury...

 

Nah, fuggedaboutit. Nowadays only Maybach is supposed to be a presidential / royal class.

 

Are the vanity mirrors in the rear seat gone???

 

I’m really not sure what to think right now. I don’t hate the car but I don’t love it. I’m going to have to check it out in person to see if I want one. Right now I have an allocation for the GLS 63, and I’m considering the new S73. Wife has the GLE, So I feel the GLS Is gonna be to similar and no fun changing cars. I’m not a touch screen person but I love the technology that comes with it that I can’t get in the gls. I just hope they didn’t take to much luxury away from it. Technology is great, but it’s not luxury. I loved the lines of my 18 s63 but I had to many issues with wind noises so I got rid of it. Also, the HUD is massive and the dash I’m trying to get used to but can’t yet. I wish they something more then just a big piece of wood.

 

It will sell as well as it ever did. Just a shift in targeting, there will be people for whom the new design doesnt work, but people who would never have considered the car before will.

Not unlike what Lexus did with the LS500, only this car will deliver on its new premise for those new target customers unlike that car.

 

If the S580e has the 100km+ range on electric claimed it'll be the perfect car, just need to wait for its release

 

likely WLTP rated so I expect EPA will be a bit less, but still should be impressive range for a PHEV.

 

Agreed. That was an absolutely ridiculous analogy. Comparing an expensive, high-end watch, which only has two functions/purposes (to tell time and look stylish), to what is supposed to be the most advanced car in the world (in a multitude of ways) that has always served to set a benchmark for the entire auto industry.

"Let's NOT advance the new S-Class too much so that we can please the handful of older-in-age loyalists who prefer the old bodystyles and more primitive technology. That will certainly help Mercedes sell more S-Class units than ever before and will help Mercedes convert more (and younger) customers who currently drive other brands!"

A true "luxury" experience is not only about lavish, beautiful styling. It is about making one's life easier and more enjoyable in every way possible -- whether you are at a luxury vacation resort, eating in a high-end restaurant, or driving a best-in-class luxury car. When it comes to a car like this, advanced user-friendly technology like this new touchscreen and voice control will help accomplish that, just like how our iPhones make things so much easier and effortless for us in day-to-day life compared to an old flip phone. Then, there is all the technology that works behind the scenes to make things effortless -- a simple long-standing features like "soft close doors" is a great example of this. This fusion of technology (all of the new tech and advancements of existing tech), styling, fit and finish, performance/ride quality, and atmosphere (ambient lighting/fragrances) are what make a true luxury experience -- and that is once again exactly what this new S-Class appears to be, just as it has been in the past.

 

This just in:

https://www.autoweek.com/news/future...0Non%20Openers

 

I'm guessing 30-40 miles EPA range.

EDIT: make that 40 miles, as a guess

 

I believe the change to 580 also has to do with other MB models. Both the GLE and GLS are numbered 580 for their V8 models.

 

This looks killer!

 

I don't think anyone wants primitive technology, nor do most have an issue with the tech in general. We expect the S to be groundbreaking and the leader, which the 223 clearly is. However the issue for many is that more tech doesn't necessarily equal luxury or style. As magnificent as this car is and is arguably the best car in the world...again, that does not mean MB got everything right. There is no reason all this wonderful tech cant be integrated in a more luxurious and stylish cabin.

Nevertheless, the 223 will sell well as it should. I can't wait to try one out myself.

 

I read 100Km so whatever that is in miles is nearabout the range.