S-Class (W223) 2021 to Present

When, when, when??

Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:20 PM
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The first of these "new" articles that I read did have one interesting comment about an upcoming change for the 2022 model - and I quote:

"Next year, Mercedes will begin to offer the even more massive Hyperscreen glass dashboard (yes, the one from the electric EQS) in the S-Class. So, that's perhaps a really big reason to wait for the 2022 model year."

When I first saw the new hyperscreen in the EQS, I commented that this should have been the S-Class implementation. Seems like my precognition is showing.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:20 PM
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Update on my vehicle and price.

So last week my dealer called me to update me on my car. Finally gave me a price $142,640

As for delivery it’s the same thing he take me.. early July. Really hoping it arrived before 7/17 as I plan on using it for the grooms car at my best friends wedding. Would be a nice first outing for the car. I’m on the wedding train so I’ll of course be the driver.

anyways I ordered in September 2020 and it was built May 19 2021 and currently sitting at the port in GA according to the dealer.

attached are the specs of my build for anyone needing to get an idea of the cost of this specific spec as Mercedes still playing games with prices on their site.

Hope it’s helpful info for y’all.





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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:33 PM
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ITs ridiculous that we are spending 100k plus for this car and there is no standard 4 zone climate control system. Mercedes you are screwing us.
S never came standard with 4 zone as far as I know. Sadly, 100K is not that much anymore.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by flint350
The first of these "new" articles that I read did have one interesting comment about an upcoming change for the 2022 model - and I quote:

"Next year, Mercedes will begin to offer the even more massive Hyperscreen glass dashboard (yes, the one from the electric EQS) in the S-Class. So, that's perhaps a really big reason to wait for the 2022 model year."

When I first saw the new hyperscreen in the EQS, I commented that this should have been the S-Class implementation. Seems like my precognition is showing.
That's odd since it's not mentioned in the 2022 order guide.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by flint350
The first of these "new" articles that I read did have one interesting comment about an upcoming change for the 2022 model - and I quote:

"Next year, Mercedes will begin to offer the even more massive Hyperscreen glass dashboard (yes, the one from the electric EQS) in the S-Class. So, that's perhaps a really big reason to wait for the 2022 model year."

When I first saw the new hyperscreen in the EQS, I commented that this should have been the S-Class implementation. Seems like my precognition is showing.
If that is the case, then it further reinforces the idea that the “current” W223 dash & center stack are temporary, stopgap designs. Probably why the HVAC register is not centered on the touch screen. I feel that the design of the whole dash & console area has looked slapped together. Perhaps it was, knowing that the big, fancy Hyperscreen would replace it all soon enough. This is not great, is it?
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaton
That's odd since it's not mentioned in the 2022 order guide.
That's because they have been so consistent.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Baloo588
ITs ridiculous that we are spending 100k plus for this car and there is no standard 4 zone climate control system. Mercedes you are screwing us.
Maybe they want you to get a BMW 750i, which comes with 4 zone climate control as standard.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 01:14 PM
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Didn't your dealer have allocations? I ordered mine Jan. 22, 2021, was built May 10, 2021, been sitting in Brunswick for two weeks.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 01:18 PM
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Eaton, I agree! That dash is suited more for an electric car and remember if someone says "S" Class there is only two letters in front to change it from gas to electric, EQS580 or S580?
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 01:20 PM
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Not that big of a deal as hardly anyone sits in the back. My 2012 A8L has the 4 zone but at least Audi offered it as an option separately and didnt require the full executive package. Either way I am happy with my order. AMG line with 21 inch rims plus warmth/comfort package
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 02:11 PM
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After a lot of phone calls to the EPA testing facility at Ann Arbor more than a month ago, I finally got through to an employee working from home. He told me that there was no delay in the 2021 S Class certifications and that they had issued the certificates of compliance months ago. He said that numbers are not final until the car maker delivers the car to the consumer. Until that time, the manufacturer can resubmit an application based on any changes they make affecting mileage. Also, the EPA can randomly do road testing or dynamometer testing using an actual car. If the testing has different results than the computer simulations, the manufacturer is required to inform all customers who have received cars of the change in mileage. If the manufacturer submitted false information or cheated on the results, fines and criminal charges can be assessed. He would not tell me, or he did not know, if road tests or dynamometer tests were being run on an actual S Class car. As I remember, he told me the estimated mileage submitted for the 2021 S580 was 17city, 25 highway, 20 combined…but I may be wrong as I did not write it down.


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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 02:16 PM
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[QUOTE………. Either way I am happy with my order. AMG line with 21 inch rims plus warmth/comfort package[/QUOTE]

………..AND the wheel insurance policy, I hope.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCam
After a lot of phone calls to the EPA testing facility at Ann Arbor more than a month ago, I finally got through to an employee working from home. He told me that there was no delay in the 2021 S Class certifications and that they had issued the certificates of compliance months ago. He said that numbers are not final until the car maker delivers the car to the consumer. Until that time, the manufacturer can resubmit an application based on any changes they make affecting mileage. Also, the EPA can randomly do road testing or dynamometer testing using an actual car. If the testing has different results than the computer simulations, the manufacturer is required to inform all customers who have received cars of the change in mileage. If the manufacturer submitted false information or cheated on the results, fines and criminal charges can be assessed. He would not tell me, or he did not know, if road tests or dynamometer tests were being run on an actual S Class car. As I remember, he told me the estimated mileage submitted for the 2021 S580 was 17city, 25 highway, 20 combined…but I may be wrong as I did not write it down.
17/25 seems pretty crappy doesn't it?
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 02:40 PM
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For a heavy, big 500 H.P. car?
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
17/25 seems pretty crappy doesn't it?
Probably a little off.
2020 S 560 was 17 City 27 Hwy.
I would bet the S 580 will be about the same.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
[QUOTE………. Either way I am happy with my order. AMG line with 21 inch rims plus warmth/comfort package
………..AND the wheel insurance policy, I hope.[/QUOTE]
Haha never needed it here in Michigan. Haven't bent a rim in a long time, I guess I am a very proactive driver and roads here are pretty good. Winter time I will be using the 20 rims and winter tires. Side note, I have the 2021 Audi RS7 and that car has 285/30R22 rims/tire size and no issues since getting it last fall. I do use winter sets in size 20s for those. I got the tire/wheel insurance just in case but will be getting a prorated refund as I have no need for it.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 04:54 PM
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As I remember, he told me the estimated mileage submitted for the 2021 S580 was 17city, 25 highway, 20 combined…but I may be wrong as I did not write it down.
This youtube video dated today echos those numbers. Has anyone heard or seen MPG for the 21 or 22 S500?

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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ALANPRIEBE
For a heavy, big 500 H.P. car?
Agreed, I'll take those numbers all day.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 06:06 PM
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Hi guys. I know I am not at the right forum (I own 2017 a CLS 550). I have tried the CLS forums with no luck about orders and delays. In fact, it appears no one on those forums have ordered a '21 CLS. I did a search and this thread is as close as I have come to finding possible answers to my questions. Basically, why is my ordered CLS taking so long to get here? The dealer is no help, just excuses. So maybe someone can tell me if the problems regarding build/delivery I have read here are applicable to CLS or any other specific models. I ordered a 2021 CLS450 in December. Sales told me they were looking at Feb. build with a March/April delivery. That was okay with me. Then it was delayed and they moved the build to the third decade April. That came and went as well. Finally the car was built in May and a week ago I was told it is in B7 status - sitting at a dock waiting for ship assignment.

From what I have read here, even if the car makes it to a boat, the real delay may come when it hits America. Or, is this a problem unique to S class only? I may cancel the order as they can't even give me an anticipated arrival date. I need new tires, maintenance, etc. on my current CLS and if I'm going to spend that kind of money for upkeep I might as well keep it a few more months and get a '22 model. Any help you guys here have will be appreciated. BTW, I have at $1000 non refundable deposit that I'm sure they will keep although I will work to try to get them to release it, if in fact I cancel.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shortspark
Hi guys. I know I am not at the right forum (I own 2017 a CLS 550). I have tried the CLS forums with no luck about orders and delays. In fact, it appears no one on those forums have ordered a '21 CLS. I did a search and this thread is as close as I have come to finding possible answers to my questions. Basically, why is my ordered CLS taking so long to get here? The dealer is no help, just excuses. So maybe someone can tell me if the problems regarding build/delivery I have read here are applicable to CLS or any other specific models. I ordered a 2021 CLS450 in December. Sales told me they were looking at Feb. build with a March/April delivery. That was okay with me. Then it was delayed and they moved the build to the third decade April. That came and went as well. Finally the car was built in May and a week ago I was told it is in B7 status - sitting at a dock waiting for ship assignment.

From what I have read here, even if the car makes it to a boat, the real delay may come when it hits America. Or, is this a problem unique to S class only? I may cancel the order as they can't even give me an anticipated arrival date. I need new tires, maintenance, etc. on my current CLS and if I'm going to spend that kind of money for upkeep I might as well keep it a few more months and get a '22 model. Any help you guys here have will be appreciated. BTW, I have at $1000 non refundable deposit that I'm sure they will keep although I will work to try to get them to release it, if in fact I cancel.
Others here have better info, but seems to be pretty common. Not sure about other manufacturers, seems like dealers and/or MBUSA cannot provide consistent and reliable information. Frustrating I'm sure.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shortspark
Hi guys. I know I am not at the right forum (I own 2017 a CLS 550). I have tried the CLS forums with no luck about orders and delays. In fact, it appears no one on those forums have ordered a '21 CLS. I did a search and this thread is as close as I have come to finding possible answers to my questions. Basically, why is my ordered CLS taking so long to get here? The dealer is no help, just excuses. So maybe someone can tell me if the problems regarding build/delivery I have read here are applicable to CLS or any other specific models. I ordered a 2021 CLS450 in December. Sales told me they were looking at Feb. build with a March/April delivery. That was okay with me. Then it was delayed and they moved the build to the third decade April. That came and went as well. Finally the car was built in May and a week ago I was told it is in B7 status - sitting at a dock waiting for ship assignment.

From what I have read here, even if the car makes it to a boat, the real delay may come when it hits America. Or, is this a problem unique to S class only? I may cancel the order as they can't even give me an anticipated arrival date. I need new tires, maintenance, etc. on my current CLS and if I'm going to spend that kind of money for upkeep I might as well keep it a few more months and get a '22 model. Any help you guys here have will be appreciated. BTW, I have at $1000 non refundable deposit that I'm sure they will keep although I will work to try to get them to release it, if in fact I cancel.
Once it's in the US it should get through the VPC no problem since that model is released and on sale already. The new S-Class is not yet for sale.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 06:26 PM
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Once it's in the US it should get through the VPC no problem since that model is released and on sale already. The new S-Class is not yet for sale.
Thanks, that could be the key. The CLS has gone through all this whereas the S class has not. Makes sense. Hope you are right!
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 08:05 PM
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It seems to me a company like Mercedes-Benz could do better with communication. I understand changing market priorities, COVID impacts and chip shortages. If they're not careful, in the US, the best may become nothing.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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That won't happen! The problem is there is more than ,meet the eye, Mercedes knows, we do not! People ordered this new S Class including myself, and now because of the delay in releasing all those U.S. cars (customers) are pissed. It's like Christmas for children, the anticipation drives you crazy, December 26 comes along everybody's fat, dumb and happy and life is back to normal.
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The sales numbers for the second quarter are going to be a disaster. Dealers around here have no vehicles in stock, I mean nothing. They look abandoned.

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