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I went by my local dealership to get some warranty work done and 3 or 4 new S classes were on the floor. They added $10,000 to the window sticker on almost all cars to compensate for market conditions. One G Wagen was upcharged $100,000 for the same reason. The window sticker is $195,000 and an additional $100,000 was added for a total of nearly $300K. Is everyone seeing this across the board?
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Quite common. Supply is very low and there is high demand for both vehicles.
In the end it's a business so the stealer's are trying to maximize profits. They will continue to have these markups as long as ppl are willing to pay them.
In the end it's a business so the stealer's are trying to maximize profits. They will continue to have these markups as long as ppl are willing to pay them.
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Before I got my S i was shopping for an escalade. Nearly every dealer I've contacted wanted 7-25k over sticker.
I don't care how bad i want or how rare a car is. I'm not paying over MSRP. There are probably 10s of thousands of cars built in a day. I'll just go to a different dealer or pick a different car.
I don't care how bad i want or how rare a car is. I'm not paying over MSRP. There are probably 10s of thousands of cars built in a day. I'll just go to a different dealer or pick a different car.
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If bought at MSRP, they will likely have zero depreciation at all for the first year or two even when driving it for a sizable amount (15k miles a year). I forgot what the dealer told but the lead-time goes easily to 18 months and that may not change quickly...
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Markups at the moment are normal due to supply versus demand, although the size of said markups depends on regions and dealers. All of my dealer’s ‘21 S Allocations were sold at either MSRP (if ordered some time ago) or $5-10k in markups and no more than that. The largest my dealer has had is of course the GT-BS at $75k and a few G63’s around $40-50k each, all of course, sold. Even regular cars such as GLE’s and GLS’ are being marked up. The current market is definitely crazy!
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I went by my local dealership to get some warranty work done and 3 or 4 new S classes were on the floor. They added $10,000 to the window sticker on almost all cars to compensate for market conditions. One G Wagen was upcharged $100,000 for the same reason. The window sticker is $195,000 and an additional $100,000 was added for a total of nearly $300K. Is everyone seeing this across the board?
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Dealer wanted $10k markup. Agreed to $5k markup.
I am OK with that knowing market conditions and the fact that this is a new model release.
Almost all dealers in Boston area had $5-10k markup and cars were selling fast.
I am OK with that knowing market conditions and the fact that this is a new model release.
Almost all dealers in Boston area had $5-10k markup and cars were selling fast.
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Typically when a Mercedes-Benz dealer has only the MSRP listed on a new vehicle, they're going to be adding at least another $10,000 to the price, regardless of market conditions. $100,000 increase means they do not what to sell the car, but want it used as their showroom model, for test drives and helping customers spec their own.
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Before I got my S i was shopping for an escalade. Nearly every dealer I've contacted wanted 7-25k over sticker.
I don't care how bad i want or how rare a car is. I'm not paying over MSRP. There are probably 10s of thousands of cars built in a day. I'll just go to a different dealer or pick a different car.
I don't care how bad i want or how rare a car is. I'm not paying over MSRP. There are probably 10s of thousands of cars built in a day. I'll just go to a different dealer or pick a different car.
We are also now lucky to know all this news in advance. My car lease is up December 2022. I will have plenty of time to plan in advance what I want to do.
Those who's cars are going back during this current climate might just want to buy the car instead of turning it in since I gather the "end of lease" purchase price was in stated the contract.
Used car prices have been ticking up significantly as well.
Client of ours custom ordered a BMW X5M and put down a deposit and agreed to a lease price, etc. His SUV came in and BMW (dealership in Jersey) stonewalled him on taking delivery before finally rescinding the altogether and returning the deposit if a premium of the equivalent of $6000 wasn't paid (built into the monthly lease).
Client declined of course, and I don't know if that car has since been sold at the new price.
Client is now without a car with no other options out there.
Crazy world - but I predict after this madness is over - dealerships who raped customers like this situation will be remembered.
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I would think that most of us on this forum (S owners) are capitalists and free traders at heart. With the chip shortage and the auto market in crazy as shi* upheaval supply and demand rules. If you want a W223 you may have to pay more than what has been traditionally normal for a new car. As for me I love the free market.
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This is pretty common here too, a lot of AMG are close to 10-20000 canadian dollars higher than MSRP. I saw a GLC 63 S selling for 125000 Canadian Dollars. I also saw a C63 S coupe selling for $120,000 (116k + around 5% gst) last week when they would go for less than 100k usually. We bought an X7 40i in August of 2020 and we got it with premium excellence package for $109,500. X7 40i here go for 130,000 with the most basic package now, it's insane. G63 AMG was going for $70000 over MSRP at the dealer I got the E class from and GLS 450 can't be had for less than $130,000 plus tax now. They do this by charging like 7000-8000 for freight and pdi and also inflating the MSRP.
They said there's a chip shortage and they don't receive anything now and they have a total of 20 vehicles in the lot now and so they just inflate the pricing to make up for it.
They said there's a chip shortage and they don't receive anything now and they have a total of 20 vehicles in the lot now and so they just inflate the pricing to make up for it.
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I bought at Mercedes of North Palm Beach for MSRP. They were awesome to work with!
Mercedes of Tampa was also selling for MSRP.
I refused to work with a dealership that up charged. Mercedes of Naples’s and Coconut Creek both wanted up charges so I drove an hour to North Palm Beach. They have earned a customer for life.
Mercedes of Tampa was also selling for MSRP.
I refused to work with a dealership that up charged. Mercedes of Naples’s and Coconut Creek both wanted up charges so I drove an hour to North Palm Beach. They have earned a customer for life.
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I bought at Mercedes of North Palm Beach for MSRP. They were awesome to work with!
Mercedes of Tampa was also selling for MSRP.
I refused to work with a dealership that up charged. Mercedes of Naples’s and Coconut Creek both wanted up charges so I drove an hour to North Palm Beach. They have earned a customer for life.
Mercedes of Tampa was also selling for MSRP.
I refused to work with a dealership that up charged. Mercedes of Naples’s and Coconut Creek both wanted up charges so I drove an hour to North Palm Beach. They have earned a customer for life.
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Upcharge Wall of Shame:
Mercedes Benz of Massapequa
Benzel-Busch Mercedes
Silver Star Mercedes (+$15k lol)
Honest Abe's at MSRP:
Mercedes-Benz Manhattan
Rallye Mercedes
White Plains Mercedes
....There are quite a few 2021's at VPC, there is a deal out there to be made if you have patience since. Working on it.
Mercedes Benz of Massapequa
Benzel-Busch Mercedes
Silver Star Mercedes (+$15k lol)
Honest Abe's at MSRP:
Mercedes-Benz Manhattan
Rallye Mercedes
White Plains Mercedes
....There are quite a few 2021's at VPC, there is a deal out there to be made if you have patience since. Working on it.
