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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 01:38 PM
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This thread seems to have devolved a bit, but for anyone interested (or worried they may experience the same) another update.

I got the car back 2 days ago took it for two short drives. Driving home today at 34 mph and my foot on the accelerator, the car slammed on brakes, tightening seatbelts, dropping speed by half. No car in of me and, thank god, no car behind.

Called dealership immediately and they are coming to get it again. Said they remotely accessed the car and it was showing some kind of parktronic "event".

For anyone thinking differently, I am NOT trying to trash Mercedes in general, I am complaining about MY particular car that I am now very afraid to drive. There is something very wrong with it that Mercedes cannot figure out. I put this out there so other people who may be having problems can see they are not alone. Of course it is frustrating to hear people say "I love mine", because I loved the last three I had, and fully expected to say the same about this one.

They have already had it long enough for me to push for my money back under GA. lemon law and that may be the route I'll take because I am truly afraid of it now.
Old Oct 16, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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Well, you are wrong. The complaints here are from owners of the W223 S Class. Why make silly statements?

My car arrives next month. Crossing my fingers that everything is great on my car.
So sorry but it's been only 1 actual W223 owner who posted a complaint while most who've pilled on in this thread to trash the W223 don't even own them. I'm very sorry that the OP had such a problem but 1 car isn't a basis on which to attack the model overall.
Old Oct 16, 2021 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KellyP
This thread seems to have devolved a bit, but for anyone interested (or worried they may experience the same) another update.

I got the car back 2 days ago took it for two short drives. Driving home today at 34 mph and my foot on the accelerator, the car slammed on brakes, tightening seatbelts, dropping speed by half. No car in of me and, thank god, no car behind.

Called dealership immediately and they are coming to get it again. Said they remotely accessed the car and it was showing some kind of parktronic "event".

For anyone thinking differently, I am NOT trying to trash Mercedes in general, I am complaining about MY particular car that I am now very afraid to drive. There is something very wrong with it that Mercedes cannot figure out. I put this out there so other people who may be having problems can see they are not alone. Of course it is frustrating to hear people say "I love mine", because I loved the last three I had, and fully expected to say the same about this one.

They have already had it long enough for me to push for my money back under GA. lemon law and that may be the route I'll take because I am truly afraid of it now.
I recommend to lemon the car at this point. It’s critical to have confidence in the car and it’s safety systems. You can always get another one…
Old Oct 16, 2021 | 03:00 PM
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So sorry, Kelly P. And yes….some on this forum are under the spell of Stockholm Syndrome. Your experience is no different than the “sudden acceleration” issue which occurred on certain BMWs. Grounds for divorce….and you, sadly, are under the same umbrella. You have my full empathy. Your car is a lethal liability. I’m glad you made public note of it on this forum. Pursue lemoning.

Stockholm folk: Just because mine was unwound after 3 weeks, this is not a reason to bash me…or tell me to go away. Yes….I knew this was a new vehicle. I, however, did not sign up for the “beta” testing of it. I had 10 months to get excited about its delayed, and further delayed delivery….and then the enthusiasm rapidly dissolved into disappointment. I now look at this forum from time to time as a curiosity, if not a validation. It’s a fascination to watch the process of the “loyalists” who defend all aspects of this car.
Old Oct 16, 2021 | 06:27 PM
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So sorry, Kelly P. And yes….some on this forum are under the spell of Stockholm Syndrome. Your experience is no different than the “sudden acceleration” issue which occurred on certain BMWs. Grounds for divorce….and you, sadly, are under the same umbrella. You have my full empathy. Your car is a lethal liability. I’m glad you made public note of it on this forum. Pursue lemoning.

Stockholm folk: Just because mine was unwound after 3 weeks, this is not a reason to bash me…or tell me to go away. Yes….I knew this was a new vehicle. I, however, did not sign up for the “beta” testing of it. I had 10 months to get excited about its delayed, and further delayed delivery….and then the enthusiasm rapidly dissolved into disappointment. I now look at this forum from time to time as a curiosity, if not a validation. It’s a fascination to watch the process of the “loyalists” who defend all aspects of this car.
Thanks for your input, I read about your issues and resolution and I am very glad for you that it worked out. Sorry that you too had to jump thru hoops to get rid of a bad car. I am not sure why some people don't understand we are not bashing the brand, just documenting very real issues. Bad cars happen, I think we were unfortunate to get a couple.
Old Oct 16, 2021 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KellyP

They have already had it long enough for me to push for my money back under GA. lemon law and that may be the route I'll take because I am truly afraid of it now.
Are you in Atlanta by chance? If so, what dealership are you working with?
Old Oct 17, 2021 | 01:11 PM
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Are you in Atlanta by chance? If so, what dealership are you working with?
I was wondering the same thing. I once bought a 2002 CL500 from RBM of Atlanta near Marietta. Curious if it is the same dealership.
Old Oct 17, 2021 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonformulaic
So sorry, Kelly P. And yes….some on this forum are under the spell of Stockholm Syndrome. Your experience is no different than the “sudden acceleration” issue which occurred on certain BMWs. Grounds for divorce….and you, sadly, are under the same umbrella. You have my full empathy. Your car is a lethal liability. I’m glad you made public note of it on this forum. Pursue lemoning.

Stockholm folk: Just because mine was unwound after 3 weeks, this is not a reason to bash me…or tell me to go away. Yes….I knew this was a new vehicle. I, however, did not sign up for the “beta” testing of it. I had 10 months to get excited about its delayed, and further delayed delivery….and then the enthusiasm rapidly dissolved into disappointment. I now look at this forum from time to time as a curiosity, if not a validation. It’s a fascination to watch the process of the “loyalists” who defend all aspects of this car.
So sorry but it's not Stockholm syndrome. It's about being realistic about the reality of glitches during the early use period of new technologies. Having been raised by an engineer, I'm all to aware of the reality of these glitches. Such glitches are exactly why I was taught to never buy the first year of a new model.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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So sorry but it's not Stockholm syndrome. It's about being realistic about the reality of glitches during the early use period of new technologies. Having been raised by an engineer, I'm all to aware of the reality of these glitches. Such glitches are exactly why I was taught to never buy the first year of a new model.
Broken record.
Old Oct 17, 2021 | 02:06 PM
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Broken record.
Spoken by a non-engineer. Sorry but you're the broken record.
Old Oct 17, 2021 | 02:39 PM
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Spoken by a non-engineer. Sorry but you're the broken record.
Maybe I don’t understand Stockholm Syndrome, but based upon what I believe to be Stockholm Syndrome, really agree with 190EFan here. Just don’t believe this is a proper analogy.
Old Oct 17, 2021 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 190Efan
So sorry but it's been only 1 actual W223 owner who posted a complaint while most who've pilled on in this thread to trash the W223 don't even own them. I'm very sorry that the OP had such a problem but 1 car isn't a basis on which to attack the model overall.
You need to read the other threads on the W223 forum. Its not one owner, there are several and at least two of them actually sold their W223 because it was so problematic.

If this was truly one person we wouldnt be having this conversation, but it isn't.

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Spoken by a non-engineer. Sorry but you're the broken record.
You said you were "raised by an engineer", so you're not an engineer either LOL

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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 11:59 AM
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You need to read the other threads on the W223 forum. Its not one owner, there are several and at least two of them actually sold their W223 because it was so problematic.

If this was truly one person we wouldnt be having this conversation, but it isn't.



You said you were "raised by an engineer", so you're not an engineer either LOL
My engineer father taught me that there are always glitches during the early days of new technology. My engineer father actually experienced it first hand in both the aviation and automotive engineering worlds. All of the technical glitches with the Space Shuttle is another good example. This is why my engineer father taught me to never buy the first year of a new automotive model. It's apparent that you're not aware of this reality concerning the early days of new technology..
Old Oct 18, 2021 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 190Efan
My engineer father taught me that there are always glitches during the early days of new technology. My engineer father actually experienced it first hand in both the aviation and automotive engineering worlds. All of the technical glitches with the Space Shuttle is another good example. This is why my engineer father taught me to never buy the first year of a new automotive model. It's apparent that you're not aware of this reality concerning the early days of new technology..
Tell your engineer father to come here and set us straight then, you have no training or experience of value. If my father was a brain surgeon would you let me operate on your brain?
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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Tell your engineer father to come here and set us straight then, you have no training or experience of value. If my father was a brain surgeon would you let me operate on your brain?
Your own words put your ignorance on the issue on full display and your pathetic personal attack shows the weakness of your viewpoint.
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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Tell your engineer father to come here and set us straight then, you have no training or experience of value. If my father was a brain surgeon would you let me operate on your brain?
Well, in this case I think it would be just fine.

Sorry 190, couldn't resist.
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Come on guys, can we cut the insults and get back to talking about cars?
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Come on guys, can we cut the insults and get back to talking about cars?
Thank you Streamliner. This is sadly what happens when people can't handle facts. I agree with you, posts need to be about the cars.
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8439958[/url]]Thank you Streamliner. This is sadly what happens when people can't handle facts. I agree with you, posts need to be about the cars.
Youre the one who made the comments about people “not being engineers” and thus not knowing what they’re talking about…when you’re not an engineer either. That’s not a personal attack, it’s a fact.

When you buy a $130k car and are totally happy and understanding that it has a bunch of problems, you can tell us we’re wrong. Nobody would be happy and understanding if they were in the OPs position.

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Originally Posted by SW20S
Youre the one who made the comments about people “not being engineers” and thus not knowing what they’re talking about…when you’re not an engineer either. That’s not a personal attack, it’s a fact.

When you buy a $130k car and are totally happy and understanding that it has a bunch of problems, you can tell us we’re wrong. Nobody would be happy and understanding if they were in the OPs position.
It's called facts. It's not possible for people who aren't engineers to know more than the engineers. Engineers are well aware that the worst time to buy new technology is in the earliest days of real world use of the new technologies. There are always glitches. There are therefore times when the facts are uncomfortable and this is one of those times.
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Seems like its time to close this thread...
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Seems like its time to close this thread...
Totally agree. Main purpose of it has veered off track completely.
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Originally Posted by 190Efan
It's called facts. It's not possible for people who aren't engineers to know more than the engineers. Engineers are well aware that the worst time to buy new technology is in the earliest days of real world use of the new technologies. There are always glitches. There are therefore times when the facts are uncomfortable and this is one of those times.
If you were an engineer, I'd entertain your point.
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Is there a question of engineering here, that an engineer needs to adjudicate? Please state it, and the engineers on the site (there are more than a few) will be conjured up to make their proclamations. Filled out in triplicate.
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Is there a question of engineering here, that an engineer needs to adjudicate? Please state it, and the engineers on the site (there are more than a few) will be conjured up to make their proclamations. Filled out in triplicate.
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