190Efan

Your words show you weren't raised by an engineer. Unlike you,, I was actually raised by an engineer who was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers and had more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience. Again, my engineer father taught me to never buy the first year of a new model because of all of the the glitches that happen in the early days of real world use of new technology. Your personal attacks again show the weakness of your position. Sadly the OP experienced exactly the types of new technology glitches that my engineer father always warned me about.

teksurv

Respectfully, your repetitive mention of your engineer father as well as first model year glitches may have people turned off to your posts. Repeating the same thing over and over makes for difficult reading.

Streamliner

You hit the nail on the head and with this post! I am unsubscribing to this thread. Enough is enough.

SW20S

emilner

I spoke to my aviation mechanic father who mentioned that my secretary mother had already told my waitress sister that describing your line of work with every sentence is just plain dumb, almost childish. And frankly I have met several engineers (who may have been fathers) who were members of SoAE and they were absolutely clueless. Just think of every debacle/recall/design flaw we have seen in the automotive world- they were all put into existence by an engineer. Not dissing on engineers, every industry has its fair share of dodos, but being an engineer doesn't mean you are an authority of truth, nor does said minister of truth then also translate to offspring...

SW20S

If you want to understand how clueless an architect can be for instance, look at a parking garage lol.

190Efan

Unfortunately, there are people participating in this thread who need to be told the facts about the pitfalls of buying the first year of new technology multiple times because they can't handle the facts and continue to use personal attacks to avoid facing the facts. Sorry it's repetitive but I guess some people need more than one factual post to finally get the message. I'm sick of it too and think this thread needs to be closed as well.

SW20S

Nobody is attacking you. Telling you that you aren't an engineer isn't an attack...you aren't an engineer. Thats a fact. Its also a fact that your father being an engineer doesn't make you an engineer. Just look at the fact that you have no support in this thread. Zero. Your argument just doesn't make any sense.

Nobody is denying that there are potentially pitfalls to buying a first year model, we're just saying there have been a lot of issues here, beyond what one would expect for the OP and beyond for other owners, and that any buyer of a vehicle would be rightly frustrated with these problems. Nobody is going to spend $130k+ on a car with all these failures, having it leave them stranded at their home and need to be towed in (didnt happen to the OP, but to a couple others) and say "hey, thats what I get for buying a first year model" and not be frustrated.

You're not changing anybody's minds here, you don't own this vehicle and don't seem to have any plan to purchase it in the near future, and you have no experience or background to bring to the discussion...if you're sick of this thread stop posting the same thing over and over and let the rest of us move on with the discussion.

MBNUT1

"Never argue with an idiot. You'll never convince the idiot that you're correct, and bystanders won't be able to tell who's who."

SW20S

But it is a diversion lol

190Efan

Your personal attacks show the weakness of your position.

190Efan

Once again your personal attacks show the weakness of your position and I'm sick of your nasty attacks. Your own words once again show that you have no engineering/technology experience because you don't seem to be able to grasp this basic reality about the pitfalls of early use of new technology. Having been raised by an engineer, I do understand this. Most of the people posting in this thread don't own a W223 and don't plan to buy one. It's not my fault that people with no experience working with engineering/technology don't get the message that since the beginning of engineering/technology there are always glitches during the early days of real world use of the new technology. You especially don't want to understand this reality. I'm very sorry that the OP had such problems with their W223 but this is the risk you take when you purchase very early in the adoption of a new vehicle with new technology. It's time to finally grasp this and move on.

jay2o01

Not sure if its the right move to jump in here. But you’re right about moving on, just need to do it yourself.

Nonformulaic

This is definitely better than tonight’s “Curb Your Enthusiasm.”

Wolfman

I think this thread has been sufficiently derailed. Time to bring this to a close.
Perhaps the OP can create another thread once the situation has concluded.