Back seat climate
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Back seat climate
2022 S580. For the life of me, can’t find a way to get more air to the back seat. The climate menu shows only “front row”. All back row vents are open to the fullest. Could there be that there is no way to separately control temp and fan speed for the back row?
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Separate temp and fan speed for the rear seat is part of the rear seat package, which in the US requires the full “executive line”. It’s a 4 zone system. Very frustrating. Otherwise you just get a dual zone system in all luxury line or AMG line models and no separate controls for the rear seats.
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What’s even more frustrating is the only cold air will blow from the pillar and console vents to the rear. Heat only comes from under the seat. Absolutely ridiculous for a $130k car. My kids are always complaining they are cold in the back.
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Unbelievable. Hadn’t occurred to me that in a flagship Mercedes that costs north of $130k I had to add this as an option. Just when I was starting to re-like Mercedes after a few years away… unbelievable.
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After I ordered it, I learned that the 4 zone climate control wasn’t available unless you ordered the Executive Line. I drove 5 people in the car this weekend and they made a point to mention that this feature should not be missing. My wife told me she will never sit in the rear seat again. Mind you my AMG Line MSRP was $146500. But the AMG Line is not good enough to offer 4 zone climate control as an additional cost option. Smh.
I am sure the fanboys will find some marketing excuse for this BS.
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Yeah I ordered the AMG Line because I preferred the look of the AMG LIne over the Executive Line.
After I ordered it, I learned that the 4 zone climate control wasn’t available unless you ordered the Executive Line. I drove 5 people in the car this weekend and they made a point to mention that this feature should not be missing. My wife told me she will never sit in the rear seat again. Mind you my AMG Line MSRP was $146500. But the AMG Line is not good enough to offer 4 zone climate control as an additional cost option. Smh.
I am sure the fanboys will find some marketing excuse for this BS.
After I ordered it, I learned that the 4 zone climate control wasn’t available unless you ordered the Executive Line. I drove 5 people in the car this weekend and they made a point to mention that this feature should not be missing. My wife told me she will never sit in the rear seat again. Mind you my AMG Line MSRP was $146500. But the AMG Line is not good enough to offer 4 zone climate control as an additional cost option. Smh.
I am sure the fanboys will find some marketing excuse for this BS.
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I’m probably an MB “fanboy,” but as of late, I am having a very hard time keeping the faith. Issues such as these heating/cooling/ventilation problems are absolutely INSANE in a flagship sedan that is supposed to be an ultimately “comfortable” vehicle. Then, how about the rear axle steering that is not available on the “Luxury Line” models in the USA? To get the ten degree setup, they shove all the “Executive Line” equipment down your throat, which is nuts. I’ve said it for years now, but it is getting worse all the time: In my opinion, MB is trying to be everything to everyone and in the process, they are alienating many of their long time customers and are diluting the luxury experience we have come to expect from the 3-pointed star.
I agree that not being able to customize the flagship is quite bothersome.
However, the S Class was launched during C-19.
In this case, I imagine the most efficient way for MB to get cars into the single biggest market for the Sclass is to create preconfigured packs.
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For my money, I’d even rather that the base price of each package was increased a bit so that some elementary (at this level) functions are always included: back seat climate control, rear starting (on such a long car - almost a must), HUD, etc. I think that someone buying an S class would not shy away from an additional $3k-$5k but WOULD definitely get annoyed and consider their brand loyalty after spending $130-145k only to discover some of these functions are missing.
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For my money, I’d even rather that the base price of each package was increased a bit so that some elementary (at this level) functions are always included: back seat climate control, rear starting (on such a long car - almost a must), HUD, etc. I think that someone buying an S class would not shy away from an additional $3k-$5k but WOULD definitely get annoyed and consider their brand loyalty after spending $130-145k only to discover some of these functions are missing.
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I bet a few features being not included as standard is mainly due to shortage of chips, eg the rear axle 10-degree steering. I wonder if this 4-zone climate control is one of those features being affected too.
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Just for fun folks, here is the link to the MB Canada S Class Build site. Check it out. No BS “Luxury” or “Executive” packages. Honestly, it will make you want to cry! If you ever thought MBUSA had their head up their rectum, this will absolutely convince you: https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/vehi...egory=exterior
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Just for fun folks, here is the link to the MB Canada S Class Build site. Check it out. No BS “Luxury” or “Executive” packages. Honestly, it will make you want to cry! If you ever thought MBUSA had their head up their rectum, this will absolutely convince you: https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/vehi...egory=exterior
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I know this will probably never happen, but it is my belief that their should be Daimler-Benz dealerships that handle A, B & C Class vehicles and Sprinter & Metris vans. E Class & above, along with AMG vehicles and Maybach should be handled my Mercedes-Benz dealerships. Sort of like Toyota/Lexus or Hyundai/Genesis. The way things are right now, it’s almost as if General Motors had dealerships in the 1960’s that sold Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac and GMC all under one roof. GM didn’t do that, but MB appears to be trying to, and this results in less selection for their customers and less than wonderful customer service. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.
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Just for fun folks, here is the link to the MB Canada S Class Build site. Check it out. No BS “Luxury” or “Executive” packages. Honestly, it will make you want to cry! If you ever thought MBUSA had their head up their rectum, this will absolutely convince you: https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/vehi...egory=exterior
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Well... so forum member Streamliner actually started a thread on the issue with MBUSA, for those who want to learn more please continue reading on this other thread as well:
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...as-got-go.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...as-got-go.html
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That being said, Canadian vehicles' warranty is automatically voided once imported to other countries so probably not worth it.
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-Vehicles of MY2021 or newer
Among others, these 2 conditions basically say you cannot import a new Mercedes from Canada to the US.
Read the link below for a full list and many many other restrictions.
https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/admissibility
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Again, SWB, LWB, both should be available here. The USA may not be China—thank goodness—but it’s a huge market. If someone here wants a SWB W223, they should be able to order one. AND, not to beat my own “dead horse,” the frigging Panorama Roof—which I personally HATE, is optional in Germany. If I’m willing to pay the price and wait for it, I should be able to order a new S Class without the glass roof. I know, NTSB certifications and all that, but they are already building all these variations in Germany so it’s not like we are asking them to reinvent the wheel.
I know this will probably never happen, but it is my belief that their should be Daimler-Benz dealerships that handle A, B & C Class vehicles and Sprinter & Metris vans. E Class & above, along with AMG vehicles and Maybach should be handled my Mercedes-Benz dealerships. Sort of like Toyota/Lexus or Hyundai/Genesis. The way things are right now, it’s almost as if General Motors had dealerships in the 1960’s that sold Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac and GMC all under one roof. GM didn’t do that, but MB appears to be trying to, and this results in less selection for their customers and less than wonderful customer service. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.
I know this will probably never happen, but it is my belief that their should be Daimler-Benz dealerships that handle A, B & C Class vehicles and Sprinter & Metris vans. E Class & above, along with AMG vehicles and Maybach should be handled my Mercedes-Benz dealerships. Sort of like Toyota/Lexus or Hyundai/Genesis. The way things are right now, it’s almost as if General Motors had dealerships in the 1960’s that sold Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac and GMC all under one roof. GM didn’t do that, but MB appears to be trying to, and this results in less selection for their customers and less than wonderful customer service. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.
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So, can the rear air control be retrofitted?
I purchased a 2019 S450 because my wife said I needed to have an executive car after a recent promotion. Good wife. Anyway... we were shocked that a S-Class would not have rear controls for the vents. Is it even possible to retrofit this option in?
