JZK26

2022 S580. For the life of me, can’t find a way to get more air to the back seat. The climate menu shows only “front row”. All back row vents are open to the fullest. Could there be that there is no way to separately control temp and fan speed for the back row?

ColeBlooded

I believe you need the warmth and comfort package to have tri zone climate control.

BenjaminKohl

Separate temp and fan speed for the rear seat is part of the rear seat package, which in the US requires the full “executive line”. It’s a 4 zone system. Very frustrating. Otherwise you just get a dual zone system in all luxury line or AMG line models and no separate controls for the rear seats.

cfmistry

What’s even more frustrating is the only cold air will blow from the pillar and console vents to the rear. Heat only comes from under the seat. Absolutely ridiculous for a $130k car. My kids are always complaining they are cold in the back.

JZK26

Unbelievable. Hadn’t occurred to me that in a flagship Mercedes that costs north of $130k I had to add this as an option. Just when I was starting to re-like Mercedes after a few years away… unbelievable.

Rockland

Yeah I ordered the AMG Line because I preferred the look of the AMG LIne over the Executive Line.
After I ordered it, I learned that the 4 zone climate control wasn’t available unless you ordered the Executive Line. I drove 5 people in the car this weekend and they made a point to mention that this feature should not be missing. My wife told me she will never sit in the rear seat again. Mind you my AMG Line MSRP was $146500. But the AMG Line is not good enough to offer 4 zone climate control as an additional cost option. Smh.

I am sure the fanboys will find some marketing excuse for this BS.

Streamliner

I’m probably an MB “fanboy,” but as of late, I am having a very hard time keeping the faith. Issues such as these heating/cooling/ventilation problems are absolutely INSANE in a flagship sedan that is supposed to be an ultimately “comfortable” vehicle. Then, how about the rear axle steering that is not available on the “Luxury Line” models in the USA? To get the ten degree setup, they shove all the “Executive Line” equipment down your throat, which is nuts. I’ve said it for years now, but it is getting worse all the time: In my opinion, MB is trying to be everything to everyone and in the process, they are alienating many of their long time customers and are diluting the luxury experience we have come to expect from the 3-pointed star.

impex4

I agree that not being able to customize the flagship is quite bothersome.

However, the S Class was launched during C-19.
In this case, I imagine the most efficient way for MB to get cars into the single biggest market for the Sclass is to create preconfigured packs.

Streamliner

Something like 4-Zone Climate Control should be STANDARD EQUIPMENT on a big, comfy, flagship, MB saloon.

JZK26

For my money, I’d even rather that the base price of each package was increased a bit so that some elementary (at this level) functions are always included: back seat climate control, rear starting (on such a long car - almost a must), HUD, etc. I think that someone buying an S class would not shy away from an additional $3k-$5k but WOULD definitely get annoyed and consider their brand loyalty after spending $130-145k only to discover some of these functions are missing.

cfmistry

Agreed. Rear climate control being at the top of that last.

bishop64

I bet a few features being not included as standard is mainly due to shortage of chips, eg the rear axle 10-degree steering. I wonder if this 4-zone climate control is one of those features being affected too.

Streamliner

Just for fun folks, here is the link to the MB Canada S Class Build site. Check it out. No BS “Luxury” or “Executive” packages. Honestly, it will make you want to cry! If you ever thought MBUSA had their head up their rectum, this will absolutely convince you: https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/vehi...egory=exterior

bishop64

Interesting to note that the S500 is a SWB model in Canada.

Diesel Benz

Odd that they don't have both options like we do in Europe (I guess 16 different models available currently, excluding Maybach).

martinlarose

the s580 is the LWB model in Canada

Diesel Benz

I meant both options for the 500, why not the 580 too but specifically why not a LWB S500.

Streamliner

Again, SWB, LWB, both should be available here. The USA may not be China—thank goodness—but it’s a huge market. If someone here wants a SWB W223, they should be able to order one. AND, not to beat my own “dead horse,” the frigging Panorama Roof—which I personally HATE, is optional in Germany. If I’m willing to pay the price and wait for it, I should be able to order a new S Class without the glass roof. I know, NTSB certifications and all that, but they are already building all these variations in Germany so it’s not like we are asking them to reinvent the wheel.

I know this will probably never happen, but it is my belief that their should be Daimler-Benz dealerships that handle A, B & C Class vehicles and Sprinter & Metris vans. E Class & above, along with AMG vehicles and Maybach should be handled my Mercedes-Benz dealerships. Sort of like Toyota/Lexus or Hyundai/Genesis. The way things are right now, it’s almost as if General Motors had dealerships in the 1960’s that sold Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac and GMC all under one roof. GM didn’t do that, but MB appears to be trying to, and this results in less selection for their customers and less than wonderful customer service. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.

Sean._.S

So... Does anyone know how to import a new Canadian vehicle into the United States?

W205C43PFL

Well... so forum member Streamliner actually started a thread on the issue with MBUSA, for those who want to learn more please continue reading on this other thread as well:
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...as-got-go.html

W205C43PFL

I think there is an import law of wait how many years if the vehicle was available new in some States, unfortunately?
That being said, Canadian vehicles' warranty is automatically voided once imported to other countries so probably not worth it.

bishop64

-Vehicles within the 12-month non-export period as per bill of sale
-Vehicles of MY2021 or newer

Among others, these 2 conditions basically say you cannot import a new Mercedes from Canada to the US.

Read the link below for a full list and many many other restrictions.
https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/admissibility

W205C43PFL

In that case, can Americans import vehicles from Mexico instead?

places

I think the customer experience for the higher-line products has been without question diluted by the lower offerings. If nothing else, dealerships can assign "teams" for the higher lines. Much like they do with mechanics that work on higher perforce AMG's. My dealership has been nothing short of stellar with how they've treated me over the years but I always worry this might change based on nightmare stories you read about here.

saltydogmarsh

I purchased a 2019 S450 because my wife said I needed to have an executive car after a recent promotion. Good wife. Anyway... we were shocked that a S-Class would not have rear controls for the vents. Is it even possible to retrofit this option in?