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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 08:19 PM
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I personally find the EQS to feel tight inside, the dash is really tall which IMO gives it an awkward driving position.
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 10:37 PM
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You know you're in the US when someone would describe any of the car's discussed here as feeling cramped. Lol
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 10:44 PM
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I personally find the EQS to feel tight inside, the dash is really tall which IMO gives it an awkward driving position.
I looked at our EQS and you can clearly see on the side how the door panel goes up into the dash. I guess because I am tall, I don't really feel it, but you can see it is surely higher.
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 10:47 PM
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Oh yeah, the dash is at least 5 inches taller in the EQS vs the S Class
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 08:41 AM
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 10:34 AM
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I haven’t read any of this thread other than the last page.

I could not drive the 7 series; it’s just not visually appealing to me. I like Audis, and had very good experiences with them, but the interior looks dated to me now. It use to be top notch in terms of technology but others have leapfrogged ahead of it. The speed is certainly nice but after driving and owning a lot of TT V8s, I found myself hardly ever using its full capability. Other than the occasional street light escape or freeway on ramp romp, I spent 99.999% of my time driving around like a grandpa lol (disclaimer I’m not a grandpa yet). The smaller engine suits me just fine and I definitely don’t miss the 12 to 14 MPG driving around town.
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Old Feb 24, 2023 | 01:54 PM
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so attractive exterior design I have ever seen, wow just gorgeous
That you “have ever seen”. Wow…that’s quite the statement.
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Old Feb 24, 2023 | 02:50 PM
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That you “have ever seen”. Wow…that’s quite the statement.
They probably forgot the
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but then again, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 02:30 PM
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Hey LovinMercedes, how about an update on your new BMW?
Hey Streamliner,

The new BMW is great. I love it, and get so many compliments, all the time.

You have an idea of how my S-class cars I have had, and the effort I put into them, but this BMW is more comfortable and drives better than any other luxury car I have ever owned.

I am sure many will disagree, but I really don't think it is close this year, at least not for me. In 2 years or so, I won't even think twice about Mercedes, it will be another 7 Individual.

Hope all is well!
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 07:49 PM
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Hey Streamliner,

The new BMW is great. I love it, and get so many compliments, all the time.

You have an idea of how my S-class cars I have had, and the effort I put into them, but this BMW is more comfortable and drives better than any other luxury car I have ever owned.

I am sure many will disagree, but I really don't think it is close this year, at least not for me. In 2 years or so, I won't even think twice about Mercedes, it will be another 7 Individual.

Hope all is well!
Did your S550 have Magic Body Control?
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 08:03 PM
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Did your S550 have Magic Body Control?
It’s been several years ago now, as when I got my Taycan, I gave that S class to my wife.

When I buy my S class cars,I order all the options that are available, so I’m sure it did, if it was available.

I do remember, specifically, when I got Magic Body Control the very first time, it made a difference in how you felt the bumps.

I also think one of the reasons that BMW drives better than the Mercedes, is the non run flats, granted you could take the run flats off a Mercedes.

Every time I drive the BMW, I’m amazed at how it feels so comfortable and the ride so good, yet you have great control at the steering wheel.

Can’t tell you how many times my wife has said stop driving this car like it was the Taycan, granted our perception is most likely a little different than hers.
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 08:20 PM
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I just wish I liked how it looks, but I just can't stand it. I've tried...because all the reviews are great.
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Originally Posted by LovinMercedes
It’s been several years ago now, as when I got my Taycan, I gave that S class to my wife.

When I buy my S class cars,I order all the options that are available, so I’m sure it did, if it was available.

I do remember, specifically, when I got Magic Body Control the very first time, it made a difference in how you felt the bumps.

I also think one of the reasons that BMW drives better than the Mercedes, is the non run flats, granted you could take the run flats off a Mercedes.

Every time I drive the BMW, I’m amazed at how it feels so comfortable and the ride so good, yet you have great control at the steering wheel.

Can’t tell you how many times my wife has said stop driving this car like it was the Taycan, granted our perception is most likely a little different than hers.
Lovin Mercedes, I thoroughly enjoy your reviews and insight. I don’t typically keep my cars for longer than 2-3 years. I’ve now had my S580 for over a year and being the car fanatic I am am thinking of the next one….The new 7 is on the test drive list. Im wondering if you have any thoughts on the Flying Spur?
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Originally Posted by Bubba1
Lovin Mercedes, I thoroughly enjoy your reviews and insight. I don’t typically keep my cars for longer than 2-3 years. I’ve now had my S580 for over a year and being the car fanatic I am am thinking of the next one….The new 7 is on the test drive list. Im wondering if you have any thoughts on the Flying Spur?
Hi Bubba1,

I had looked a the Flying Spur for a number of years. I got a very close a couple of times when they were much less expensive than they are now. I think what made me not pull the trigger is that I like to change my cars often, and while they were beautiful, I did feel trading them in every couple of years was going to be very expensive, and I never really thought the difference was worth it. I do love tech, and that also never seemed to be as good as MB and BMW. Yes, they did seem to take the car to the next level, but never enough for me to pull the trigger. I can tell you that the new 7 is closer to that level than any car ever before at the MB and BMW level. The one comment that I consistently get on my 7 is that people are comparing it to the RR and Bentleys of the world and never really mention the MB in those conversations.

Now that the Flying Spur has gotten so much more expensive, I don't even really look lately, and the older I get, it just doesn't really matter that much.

The one time I decided to go to the next level to kinda get that feeling and see what it was all about, I had a custom hand made Vanquish S produced for me, and had it taken off the production line and taken to the airport and put on a 747, so the car was delivered the next morning. That was quite the experience, but in the end, after the initial excitement of it all, it really wasn't worth it. It also, at least for me, became a hastle because given the cost, I could never valet it. Now I spend the extra time to look for a good parking space so no one will ding my BMW. The Vanquish S was almost impossible to find a space that was safe enough given the cost, my neurotic behaviors and that fact that once it gets hit, that is usually the time for a new one. My age has mellowed that behavior, I am sure you understand what I mean.

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Originally Posted by LovinMercedes
Hi Bubba1,

I had looked a the Flying Spur for a number of years. I got a very close a couple of times when they were much less expensive than they are now. I think what made me not pull the trigger is that I like to change my cars often, and while they were beautiful, I did feel trading them in every couple of years was going to be very expensive, and I never really thought the difference was worth it. I do love tech, and that also never seemed to be as good as MB and BMW. Yes, they did seem to take the car to the next level, but never enough for me to pull the trigger. I can tell you that the new 7 is closer to that level than any car ever before at the MB and BMW level. The one comment that I consistently get on my 7 is that people are comparing it to the RR and Bentleys of the world and never really mention the MB in those conversations.

Now that the Flying Spur has gotten so much more expensive, I don't even really look lately, and the older I get, it just doesn't really matter that much.

The one time I decided to go to the next level to kinda get that feeling and see what it was all about, I had a custom made Vanquish S made for me, and had it taken off the production line and taken to the airport and put on a 747, so the car was delivered the next morning. That was quite the experience, but in the end, after the initial excitement of it all, it really wasn't worth it. It also, at least for me, became a hastle because given the cost, I could never valet it. Now I spend the extra time to look for a good parking space so no one will ding my BMW. The Vanquish S was almost impossible to find a space that was safe enough given my neurotic behaviors and that fact that once it gets hit, that is usually the time for a new one. My age has mellowed that behavior, I am sure you understand what I mean.
Sigh, not even Maybach was mentioned? That said though I am glad you enjoy the 7-series you have. To make you feel better, I heard there are a lot of parts in the Flying Spur being shared with the Volkswagen, Audi cars but then I don't know what, I mean the interior is probably mostly original Bentley but not sure about the mechanical stuff.
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Sigh, not even Maybach was mentioned? That said though I am glad you enjoy the 7-series you have. To make you feel better, I heard there are a lot of parts in the Flying Spur being shared with the Volkswagen, Audi cars but then I don't know what, I mean the interior is probably mostly original Bentley but not sure about the mechanical stuff.
Yeah, it's surprising. Apparently, people who are not enthusiasts really seem to know the RR name and the Bentley name, not so much the Maybach.
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I hear you Lovin Mercedes. I’ve had my fair share of exotics and all the drama that goes with them. I must say that the S580 is very stealth and that’s a plus for me especially when parking it. I don’t go round and round anymore as long as I can find a reasonable parking spot. Simplicity at a certain age is much appreciated.

I’m looking forward to test driving the 7 and the Spur. Your insight is very much appreciated.
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Even with the upgrades they have made to the Maybach, it still is not much more than a stretched S Class. Folks looking for exclusiveness don’t find it with the Maybach. The Maybach SUV is a real joke, as it is absolutely nothing more than a tarted up GLS.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LovinMercedes
Yeah, it's surprising. Apparently, people who are not enthusiasts really seem to know the RR name and the Bentley name, not so much the Maybach.
I see, I guess it doesn't help when there isn't much distinguishing the Maybach to regular S-Class design wise other than badges.
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I saw a 223 Maybach at the dealer the other day, don't find it appealing at all IMO, I'd rather have the regular 223. vs a Bentley Flying Spur? No contest.
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Originally Posted by SW20S
I saw a 223 Maybach at the dealer the other day, don't find it appealing at all IMO, I'd rather have the regular 223. vs a Bentley Flying Spur? No contest.
I guess Maybach is for those that have Bentley money but not interested in the attention.
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I think Maybach is trying a different approach to the ultra luxury market.

When the name was first revived, it went after Rolls Royce and Bentley directly with the 57 and 62, which made a much more visual distinction from the S-Class. But, they did not sell well enough.

Now, MB seems to want to link Maybach more with the S-Class. Besides the badges, the most significant exterior visual sign that the car being a Maybach is its two-tone paint. Without this, it will be very subtle as to not getting attention.

I suppose the aligning the Maybach with the S-Class is meant to target more the existing S-Class owners?
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Originally Posted by bishop64
I think Maybach is trying a different approach to the ultra luxury market.

When the name was first revived, it went after Rolls Royce and Bentley directly with the 57 and 62, which made a much more visual distinction from the S-Class. But, they did not sell well enough.

Now, MB seems to want to link Maybach more with the S-Class. Besides the badges, the most significant exterior visual sign that the car being a Maybach is its two-tone paint. Without this, it will be very subtle as to not getting attention.

I suppose the aligning the Maybach with the S-Class is meant to target more the existing S-Class owners?
Likely but I don't really know if they are willing to pay (was it double?) of an S-Class for it? I was thinking Maybach was still targeting Bentley at least (maybe not Rolls-Royce since that is at a different level) as it is still cheaper, or is it? I mean for example, you own a W223, would you buy a Maybach, please share your opinion?
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My feeling is that the Maybach is aimed squarely at the China market, pretty much like most everything else at MB.
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