The New 7-Series is Here to Battle the S-Class - If You Can Get Past the Front End!
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To me, this car is like many gaudy luxury goods, vulgar. It’s like people who run around with giant Louis Vuitton belt buckles and Gucci shoes with huge metal bits on them. Just, not appealing to me. To me the S Class is much classier.
But, people buy gaudy stuff, especially in Asia. You can fault BMW for designing what people want, I just hope Mercedes resists the urge to go the same way. Hopefully they take a page from Land Rovers book and stick with more simple, timeless designs. BMW has always wanted to go this way, this car reminds me a lot of say the bangle 7 Series, looking side by side there was just no comparison to the S Class then, and then after that they toned it down and it appealed to me again…
But, people buy gaudy stuff, especially in Asia. You can fault BMW for designing what people want, I just hope Mercedes resists the urge to go the same way. Hopefully they take a page from Land Rovers book and stick with more simple, timeless designs. BMW has always wanted to go this way, this car reminds me a lot of say the bangle 7 Series, looking side by side there was just no comparison to the S Class then, and then after that they toned it down and it appealed to me again…
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To me, this car is like many gaudy luxury goods, vulgar. It’s like people who run around with giant Louis Vuitton belt buckles and Gucci shoes with huge metal bits on them. Just, not appealing to me. To me the S Class is much classier.
But, people buy gaudy stuff, especially in Asia. You can fault BMW for designing what people want, I just hope Mercedes resists the urge to go the same way. Hopefully they take a page from Land Rovers book and stick with more simple, timeless designs. BMW has always wanted to go this way, this car reminds me a lot of say the bangle 7 Series, looking side by side there was just no comparison to the S Class then, and then after that they toned it down and it appealed to me again…
But, people buy gaudy stuff, especially in Asia. You can fault BMW for designing what people want, I just hope Mercedes resists the urge to go the same way. Hopefully they take a page from Land Rovers book and stick with more simple, timeless designs. BMW has always wanted to go this way, this car reminds me a lot of say the bangle 7 Series, looking side by side there was just no comparison to the S Class then, and then after that they toned it down and it appealed to me again…
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Close to where we live, in South Orange County, CA, we have South Coast Plaza, a very large, very upscale, indoor shopping mall. Asians by the 747 full flock there. They bring giant, rolling luggage that they stuff with luxury goods from Chanel, LV, Gucci, Burberry, Versace, and others. They are wearing the latest in the most gaudy, logo encrusted, insanely priced crap you can imagine. It would appear that this is the BMW target customer pool for the new 7.
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Close to where we live, in South Orange County, CA, we have South Coast Plaza, a very large, very upscale, indoor shopping mall. Asians by the 747 full flock there. They bring giant, rolling luggage that they stuff with luxury goods from Chanel, LV, Gucci, Burberry, Versace, and others. They are wearing the latest in the most gaudy, logo encrusted, insanely priced crap you can imagine. It would appear that this is the BMW target customer pool for the new 7.
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The interior of the new 7 series is anything but gaudy. It is beautiful. The contrasting textures of the crystal and the metal and the wood accents work very well together and it is a very comfortable place to be. I love it.
I imagine the front end of the car will evoke differing opinions, but it is not gaudy. I have been to Barcelona, I have seen Antoni Gaudi’s architecture. This isn’t it.
The new 7 is very nice and its interior will absolutely set a new standard.
By contrast, the S580 interior is barren and cold, bereft of any design. Unless reflection of air vents in the front windshield is considered a design element?
So don’t be surprised if and when MB chases or copies a few of these interior design elements.
I imagine the front end of the car will evoke differing opinions, but it is not gaudy. I have been to Barcelona, I have seen Antoni Gaudi’s architecture. This isn’t it.
The new 7 is very nice and its interior will absolutely set a new standard.
By contrast, the S580 interior is barren and cold, bereft of any design. Unless reflection of air vents in the front windshield is considered a design element?
So don’t be surprised if and when MB chases or copies a few of these interior design elements.
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Ever thought that those Asians are harder working and more successful than a lot of folks here and that is one of the reasons all high scale stores are there to cater to them!!!! You do not have to degrade them (by the747). If you cant afford , work harder in your life rather than be condescending. And that goes for you too SW20S!
The interior of the new 7 series is anything but gaudy. It is beautiful. The contrasting textures of the crystal and the metal and the wood accents work very well together and it is a very comfortable place to be. I love it.
I imagine the front end of the car will evoke differing opinions, but it is not gaudy. I have been to Barcelona, I have seen Antoni Gaudi’s architecture. This isn’t it.
The new 7 is very nice and its interior will absolutely set a new standard.
By contrast, the S580 interior is barren and cold, bereft of any design. Unless reflection of air vents in the front windshield is considered a design element?
So don’t be surprised if and when MB chases or copies a few of these interior design elements.
I imagine the front end of the car will evoke differing opinions, but it is not gaudy. I have been to Barcelona, I have seen Antoni Gaudi’s architecture. This isn’t it.
The new 7 is very nice and its interior will absolutely set a new standard.
By contrast, the S580 interior is barren and cold, bereft of any design. Unless reflection of air vents in the front windshield is considered a design element?
So don’t be surprised if and when MB chases or copies a few of these interior design elements.
I don’t see Mercedes taking design cues from this car, this car won’t sell anywhere near as well as the S Class does here (it never has), and I don’t see anybody who likes the S Class leaving and going to this car. The only reason they might do that is if this really takes off in China, which is where this 7 Series is designed for my BMWs own admission.
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[QUOTE=SW20S;8674984]Has nothing to do with anybody working hard or whatever, Many people just consider that kind of ostentatiousness and flash classless and boorish. I don’t need or want other people to look and bright brands flashed all over everything I own. Nobody has said they don’t have a right to have that aesthetic sensibility, but we have a right to think it’s classless and boorish too.
So sell your Mercedes, some people might find it flashy, buy a vw beetle and call it a day and stop being jealous of more successful people!!
So sell your Mercedes, some people might find it flashy, buy a vw beetle and call it a day and stop being jealous of more successful people!!
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I wonder how the big theater screen looks and the practicality of it. I have never seen any car company offer it before the 7
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It’s not jealousy at all, I can buy whatever I want including gaudy goods with brands stamped all over them, I just think that’s cheesy. I’m allowed to have an opinion, if you want to wear a $400 T shirt that says Gucci all over it that looks like it was made for your wife, go for it lol. I think it looks ridiculous.
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I absolutely agree that my Mercedes is more ostentatious than I would like. I came from Lexus, and I prefer the anonymity of the Lexus. I love the S Class, but I would have stayed with Lexus had they not destroyed the LS.
It’s not jealousy at all, I can buy whatever I want including gaudy goods with brands stamped all over them, I just think that’s cheesy. I’m allowed to have an opinion, if you want to wear a $400 T shirt that says Gucci all over it that looks like it was made for your wife, go for it lol. I think it looks ridiculous.
It’s not jealousy at all, I can buy whatever I want including gaudy goods with brands stamped all over them, I just think that’s cheesy. I’m allowed to have an opinion, if you want to wear a $400 T shirt that says Gucci all over it that looks like it was made for your wife, go for it lol. I think it looks ridiculous.
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I like my S Class. I do not love my S Class.
There is no doubt I will look towards getting this BMW in 2-4 years when I feel like it.
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As far as Mercedes copying BMW design elements, my take is that the rear interior drop-down giant screen having a strong (say, >80%) chance of happening for the next S-Class.
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I hope not. One reviewer pointed out that there was nothing luxurious about getting a crick in your neck due to your head being cocked up and over to the side trying to look at a screen which is too close to watch comfortably without being more centered. But yeah, you're probably not going to be wrong.
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The interior of the new 7 series is anything but gaudy. It is beautiful. The contrasting textures of the crystal and the metal and the wood accents work very well together and it is a very comfortable place to be. I love it.
I imagine the front end of the car will evoke differing opinions, but it is not gaudy. I have been to Barcelona, I have seen Antoni Gaudi’s architecture. This isn’t it.
The new 7 is very nice and its interior will absolutely set a new standard.
By contrast, the S580 interior is barren and cold, bereft of any design. Unless reflection of air vents in the front windshield is considered a design element?
So don’t be surprised if and when MB chases or copies a few of these interior design elements.
I imagine the front end of the car will evoke differing opinions, but it is not gaudy. I have been to Barcelona, I have seen Antoni Gaudi’s architecture. This isn’t it.
The new 7 is very nice and its interior will absolutely set a new standard.
By contrast, the S580 interior is barren and cold, bereft of any design. Unless reflection of air vents in the front windshield is considered a design element?
So don’t be surprised if and when MB chases or copies a few of these interior design elements.
As for the exterior, I can’t get over the grill. Maybe in all black, but still way too much for me. S exterior is the opposite, bland and lacking style. One might even say boring and not in a good way. Especially since the C,E and S are now closer in design and looks than ever. People will get used to the 7, but many won’t. Of all the endless iterations they likely produced internally for the front end I find it puzzling that this is the best they could do.
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I hope not. One reviewer pointed out that there was nothing luxurious about getting a crick in your neck due to your head being cocked up and over to the side trying to look at a screen which is too close to watch comfortably without being more centered. But yeah, you're probably not going to be wrong.
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classic and elegant design language. interiors were different enough and far from the diluted architecture in the modern line. a lot different when you offer a handful of model lines vs a plethora of suv’s, sedans, crossovers, suv coupes, 4 door coupes that all look similar. this is what happens when you sacrifice exclusivity for having something for everyone. aside from AMG specific models most all MB product too similar.
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classic and elegant design language. interiors were different enough and far from the diluted architecture in the modern line. a lot different when you offer a handful of model lines vs a plethora of suv’s, sedans, crossovers, suv coupes, 4 door coupes that all look similar. this is what happens when you sacrifice exclusivity for having something for everyone. aside from AMG specific models most all MB product too similar.
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It limits the ability to move the driver’s seat back into the furthest driving position. So if any driver is 6’5” or taller, maybe even 6’3” or 6’ 4”, he would be throwing a lot of money away because the screen can’t be lowered while still driving comfortably.
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I too think the 7 interior is leaps better than the S. Modern executed with an elegant style and design. Haven’t sat in one yet to experience quality of materials but in the images BMW definitely has the advantage. I still have not warmed up to the ipad, no matter how much i see it.
As for the exterior, I can’t get over the grill. Maybe in all black, but still way too much for me. S exterior is the opposite, bland and lacking style. One might even say boring and not in a good way. Especially since the C,E and S are now closer in design and looks than ever. People will get used to the 7, but many won’t. Of all the endless iterations they likely produced internally for the front end I find it puzzling that this is the best they could do.
As for the exterior, I can’t get over the grill. Maybe in all black, but still way too much for me. S exterior is the opposite, bland and lacking style. One might even say boring and not in a good way. Especially since the C,E and S are now closer in design and looks than ever. People will get used to the 7, but many won’t. Of all the endless iterations they likely produced internally for the front end I find it puzzling that this is the best they could do.
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Personally I don’t think Mercedes models look any more alike today than they ever have. They have always been very similar inside and out in layout and design.
The large screen option doesn’t bother me, being on the options I just don’t want design language which isn’t optional. Mercedes by and large is not a follower, the S Class is not all of a sudden going to look like a 7 Series.
The large screen option doesn’t bother me, being on the options I just don’t want design language which isn’t optional. Mercedes by and large is not a follower, the S Class is not all of a sudden going to look like a 7 Series.
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Ever thought that those Asians are harder working and more successful than a lot of folks here and that is one of the reasons all high scale stores are there to cater to them!!!! You do not have to degrade them (by the747). If you cant afford , work harder in your life rather than be condescending. And that goes for you too SW20S!
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I too like the new 7 series interior. Not that I would go out and buy the car but I enjoy that car companies look for new interpretations of luxury. As much as I like the current Bentley sedan/coup/cab design inside (had no desire for the prior gen design) it it simply a classic, old-school design, just with new interesting surface and material treatments. But there is very little innovation in those cars.
There are questions about the material selection like cashmere (not very durable) and the crystal/plastic? strip but it's definitely a very forward thinking design. Given the poor sales of the 7 Series, they can only go up from here but I like their strong stance. Like it or not, they stand out.
I feel the E65 bangle butt 7 series was equally dividing but many interior design elements made it into other cars, especially the W221 S-Class. iDrive was shockingly horrible but it pushed MB to get creative as well. Now MBUX 2 is the most advanced interface in cars, followed by iDrive (yes, all definitely better than Tesla's or other EV interfaces).
There are questions about the material selection like cashmere (not very durable) and the crystal/plastic? strip but it's definitely a very forward thinking design. Given the poor sales of the 7 Series, they can only go up from here but I like their strong stance. Like it or not, they stand out.
I feel the E65 bangle butt 7 series was equally dividing but many interior design elements made it into other cars, especially the W221 S-Class. iDrive was shockingly horrible but it pushed MB to get creative as well. Now MBUX 2 is the most advanced interface in cars, followed by iDrive (yes, all definitely better than Tesla's or other EV interfaces).
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