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They could be BC forged.. I’d advise against 3 piece wheels like these in the picture. I spent 15K on a set of HRE and within 3 months one of the wheels had bent. The Sclass is a heavy vehicle
They could be BC forged.. I’d advise against 3 piece wheels like these in the picture. I spent 15K on a set of HRE and within 3 months one of the wheels had bent. The Sclass is a heavy vehicle
Wow. Youre right it is heavy. I didnt think of it.
Peruse this forum and see how it's gone for 21" and up tires on the cars; don't think you'll like what you read.
Keep in mind, those with OEM 21s are with Pirelli tires The sidewall on those are very weak and narrow. With 22s, you could get away with 265/30 and 305/25 to have a nice sized sidewall.
The main advantage of a multipiece wheel is being able to only replace the barrel instead of the whole wheel if they were to get damaged.
I personally dont know the brand on the pic but I can say that its either a 2pc or 3pc , simple multi spoke with a floating center. which if your buddy really wants that look I can easily build them for you, All we do is create a 3D graph for you to look at, ones you approve it then we start programing the new design and building, Important factor is load rating as it is a heavy vehicle which we can properly test before a wheel is even built.
Here is an example of what our 2pc Forged wheels look like
Image Shows NES Forged 2pc model SS-1T Floating center / exposed hardware and polish lip.
you can choose your own color, center design, exposed or hidden hardware, barrel colors etc
this one is actually a 20x10 /21x12 for a Corvette client
I personally dont know the brand on the pic but I can say that its either a 2pc or 3pc , simple multi spoke with a floating center. which if your buddy really wants that look I can easily build them for you, All we do is create a 3D graph for you to look at, ones you approve it then we start programing the new design and building, Important factor is load rating as it is a heavy vehicle which we can properly test before a wheel is even built.
Here is an example of what our 2pc Forged wheels look like
Image Shows NES Forged 2pc model SS-1T Floating center / exposed hardware and polish lip.
you can choose your own color, center design, exposed or hidden hardware, barrel colors etc
this one is actually a 20x10 /21x12 for a Corvette client
how long would it take for the build? And can you get to 99% of the look? Cuz he is f…. picky. I dont even know why i took on the responsibility to help him try to find them.
Keep in mind, those with OEM 21s are with Pirelli tires The sidewall on those are very weak and narrow. With 22s, you could get away with 265/30 and 305/25 to have a nice sized sidewall.
The main advantage of a multipiece wheel is being able to only replace the barrel instead of the whole wheel if they were to get damaged.
He absolutely doesnt give a s*** about the ride quality. He keeps them around 6-8 months. He has gone gone through 5 cars - 4 s classes and an audi r8 in 3 years time and im not even mentioning the rest of his garage. These are his daily drivers.
how long would it take for the build? And can you get to 99% of the look? Cuz he is f…. picky. I dont even know why i took on the responsibility to help him try to find them.
LOL oh man that's funny for sure, Here is an example of what we have done for other customers. but I wont show what we have done from other brands however the image below is a good starting point,
The car image below is a 2023 C8 Corvette Z06, OEM Forged wheels 5 spoke design
this image below is our 3d graph which are never the best lol
Final product after its been produced 100% forged using 6061-T6 forged blocks, completely tested and backed up by MRR Design.
Keep in mind, those with OEM 21s are with Pirelli tires The sidewall on those are very weak and narrow. With 22s, you could get away with 265/30 and 305/25 to have a nice sized sidewall.
The main advantage of a multipiece wheel is being able to only replace the barrel instead of the whole wheel if they were to get damaged.
so are you saying that 22’s are better then going with 21’s?
Oh I get what you’re saying. But if the tire is beefed up on the 21’s, should be good right?
In theory it could be an improvement over the stock 21s, but remember that the stock 21s set an extremely (and I mean EXTREMELY) low bar, so "better than the stock 21s" can still be pretty horrible.
With some very thick tires you "might" be able to get better mileage out of those 22s without blowouts. But you will "certainly" still be compromising ride comfort and lose access to 10° rear steering, if your car is equipped with that.
In theory it could be an improvement over the stock 21s, but remember that the stock 21s set an extremely (and I mean EXTREMELY) low bar, so "better than the stock 21s" can still be pretty horrible.
With some very thick tires you "might" be able to get better mileage out of those 22s without blowouts. But you will "certainly" still be compromising ride comfort and lose access to 10° rear steering, if your car is equipped with that.
So it seems like what your saying is that 21's just have crappy tires, and that 22's make a better quality tire?
When I ordered the car, if I got the 21's, it said it would retain some of the rear steering, just not as much if I had the 20's
So it seems like what your saying is that 21's just have crappy tires, and that 22's make a better quality tire?
When I ordered the car, if I got the 21's, it said it would retain some of the rear steering, just not as much if I had the 20's
Yes, you retain 4.5 degree rear steering. But the difference between 4.5 and 10 is still very noticeable, something you will certainly miss when maneuvering out of tight parking lots or narrow city streets.
I have tried swapping out the stock P-Zeros with Michelin PS4Ss, which had thicker sidewalls, so theoretically more impact resistant. No use. Still blew two tires when I first encountered a reasonably large pothole.
I have since sold my 21s and moved on to 19s everything is much improved
When you hit a bump, pothole, whatever, a force is applied. The car will experience a vertical acceleration perpendicular to the horizontal acceleration. The vertical acceleration would be transferred to the frame without a suspension system and what the suspension is doing is absorbing energy and then dissipating it in a controlled way to prevent damaging levels of force from being applied to the car's structures, maintaining traction, and increasing ride comfort.
Increasing the wheel diameter while maintaining a fixed overall diameter reduces the sidewall thickness of the tire. The tire is one of the components absorbing those vertical forces. Everything it does not absorb is transferred through the wheel into the suspension system proper. The long and the short of it is that the force transferred through the wheel must be less than the force over time which will damage the wheel. In general less sidewall means more force applied to the wheel and the force is applied more quickly over time.
It isn't possible to entirely get around the problem with better wheels and tires, the currently available technology can be overcome given enough force applied more quickly than can be absorbed by the tire
10-24-2022, 04:36 PM
everything is much improved
