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He did coding on the W223 ILS+ and that how I knew about him (through users in this W223 forum who recommended him to me); later I did my own research about him, found threads on BMWs forums about him, verified him and talked to him. As a courtesy to W223 friends here, specially those who referred him to me and hired him even before I did, I reported back to them. I had conversation with some of those here, and one of us was going to share his experience, and we agreed then that I can start the thread if I have the time, so I did; they later chimed in with their experience.
I'm just saying, I had my W222 coded, it would never occur to me to start a thread in a forum for a different vehicle and promote that coding...just kinda strange to me. Sure if I see a comment about something in that forum I would (and have) said I had my W222 coded and maybe try this guy for your car...
The 10 degree conversion has been done; it does require a switch away from the AMG wheels of any diameter because of clearance. The steering hardware is the same on all cars with 4.5 being a software limit on AMG cars due to the wider wheels which lack adequate clearance.
Do a search here and you can see comments from a poster who has done it. Both ways. If you have 10 and buy AMG wheels you can safely mount them if you limit it to 4.5 and if you go back to the vanilla wheels you can switch back to 10.
The 10 degree conversion has been done; it does require a switch away from the AMG wheels of any diameter because of clearance. The steering hardware is the same on all cars with 4.5 being a software limit on AMG cars due to the wider wheels which lack adequate clearance.
Do a search here and you can see comments from a poster who has done it. Both ways. If you have 10 and buy AMG wheels you can safely mount them if you limit it to 4.5 and if you go back to the vanilla wheels you can switch back to 10.
And that makes sense, but any coder should tell consumers that if they want that code they need to switch their wheels.
I thought it’s legally allowed in our region now? What reason would MBUSA have to explicitly restrict it?
You're not wrong, it's legal now. That I know of the OEM is required to test the lights internally to verify they meet regulatory requirements in the US but there is no external testing requirement. Whether that has happened, I don't know. Why they are dragging their feet otherwise is a good question to which I have no answer.
I am going to enable mine via coding and lose no sleep whatsoever.
You're not wrong, it's legal now. That I know of the OEM is required to test the lights internally to verify they meet regulatory requirements in the US but there is no external testing requirement. Whether that has happened, I don't know. Why they are dragging their feet otherwise is a good question to which I have no answer.
I am going to enable mine via coding and lose no sleep whatsoever.
That's right. I think it was allowed back in the 2021, but both Mbenz and BMW were lazy enough to get their certification and tests done. I have 3 German cars in my garage now including the Mbenz, and am enjoying the Anti-dazzle or ILS+ coding on all of them.
Yes. I was just about to correct the previous posters. I did A LOT of research on this issue before I chose:
-for 10⁰ RWS you can go up to and including 20” wheels.
-if you go with the 21” (AMG?) wheels then you’re restricted to 4.5⁰
Personally I prefer to have 10⁰ much more than to have 21” wheels. So it’s a matter of preference: more RWS or larger wheels.
For me it was a no brainer. I’ve posted endlessly on the merits/benefits of 10⁰ as opposed to just 4.5⁰. The difference is amazing!
PS
My 20” wheels are AMG: code RVU AMG multi-spoke alloy wheels with 10⁰ steering code 216.
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And that makes sense, but any coder should tell consumers that if they want that code they need to switch their wheels.
Yeah, they should.
I would however say that if you're going to mod your car, even in regard to something as benign as turning on a lighting function already on the car and available across much of the world, you should do your due diligence.
I would however say that if you're going to mod your car, even in regard to something as benign as turning on a lighting function already on the car and available across much of the world, you should do your due diligence.
I agree completely, and one should also do their due diligence in terms of who you have do that, which has been my argument all along.
And that makes sense, but any coder should tell consumers that if they want that code they need to switch their wheels.
good lord, this discussion has clearly taken an offramp 🤦.
i do disagree with this statement from the context of pure software coding service. imo, the matter whether he's knowledgeable of the various mechanical variables is not a concern, rather if the model car can/cannot be coded for that function. and the answer to that specific matter...which all agree..is yes, it can be and he's capable of performing it.
whether i decide to keep my amg 20s or go generic narrower width wheels is beside the point. which, btw, in my exchange with him it was never a point of clarification that was brought up. it was simply that it can be done and offered if i so chose.
all this being said... aside from the bickering that's seemingly continuing between two intelligent and well-informed individuals in their own respective rights, I'm all for capital market competition. let others' experiences and quality of work bear out each provider's continued business. and as far as i can tell, both options discussed here appear to have absolute merit and credibility. no bias to ether.
Competition is good, but when I pay someone to do something to my car I want guidance as to what it is I can and can't do and what the ramifications of those changes are. A coder should inform a customer if the coding they are going to do will damage their car or make it undrivable. We have confirmed that if a customer has 21 inch wheels you cannot code the 10 degree steering without changing your wheels, the wheels will hit. The coder needs to tell consumers that. IMO coding 10 degree steering without asking what size wheels the customer has and informing them of the ramifications of the coding for their specific vehicle is reckless.
You wouldn't want to be told if that change was going to cause that to happen with your vehicle? I find that hard to believe.
Competition is good, but when I pay someone to do something to my car I want guidance as to what it is I can and can't do and what the ramifications of those changes are. A coder should inform a customer if the coding they are going to do will damage their car or make it undrivable. We have confirmed that if a customer has 21 inch wheels you cannot code the 10 degree steering without changing your wheels, the wheels will hit. The coder needs to tell consumers that. IMO coding 10 degree steering without asking what size wheels the customer has and informing them of the ramifications of the coding for their specific vehicle is reckless.
You wouldn't want to be told if that change was going to cause that to happen with your vehicle? I find that hard to believe.
won't disagree with your comments here, i think they're spot on. to me, it's equivalent to the value-add proposition... no arguments from me on that.
however, i think the crux of the original debate between the two of you is an actual apples to apples debate. barring any unfamiliarity by the vehicle's owner...eg, if u know exactly what u want coded and you've done all ur due diligence, is one a better value than the other.
i think we're agreeing that that answer depends on the type of buyer. if u seek greater value-add (no matter how one may define that to be for her/himself) there seems to be an argument favoring one particular provider more. and if u want the exact same coding but at a more 'favorable' process and price, then it appears to favor the other provider.
good lord, this discussion has clearly taken an offramp 🤦.
i do disagree with this statement from the context of pure software coding service. imo, the matter whether he's knowledgeable of the various mechanical variables is not a concern, rather if the model car can/cannot be coded for that function. and the answer to that specific matter...which all agree..is yes, it can be and he's capable of performing it.
whether i decide to keep my amg 20s or go generic narrower width wheels is beside the point. which, btw, in my exchange with him it was never a point of clarification that was brought up. it was simply that it can be done and offered if i so chose.
all this being said... aside from the bickering that's seemingly continuing between two intelligent and well-informed individuals in their own respective rights, I'm all for capital market competition. let others' experiences and quality of work bear out each provider's continued business. and as far as i can tell, both options discussed here appear to have absolute merit and credibility. no bias to ether.
now...everyone back to their corners
That's good to know and good to see the clarification to avoid people misrepresenting the situation. This is the same situation I had with the other coder when I was asking about Animal NightVision coding for my S560 facelift (answer was simply yes and it costs XX). But really do I need it? After doing further research I found it is ALREADY encoded by factory for animals detection for all facelift vehicles; but like i said, coders don't care or don't have time or intentions to answer beyond the question asked in some cases, and you to do you own due diligence .
This one works with newer generation vehicles including the W223, and this is the same one I use on my new BMWs (and since BMW coding is more common, it says BMW .]. The W223 uses the same new communication tech and can communicate well that way (I saw this same cable on YouTube coding videos for W223 and new vehicles with MBUX).. . It is only the older vehicles or W222 needs slightly difference cable to code all modules, so you should be good with this one for W223 but I'd double check with him if I were you and send him the link.
Just get your W223 coded with a Asian MB License
you will explain that to your MB USA Dealer when he sees that access your car logs nailed in your car forever
!!!!!!!!!!.. .why do you see the need for hijacking this thread with false claims. Let people piece fully know what options are out there. Man, you have good reputation, maintain as such without sharing false claims. US or non-US coder (in all cases they come from the same source), in all cases you are just like them located outside the US connecting remotely, while others know how to send their equipment signal also remotely via VPN instead of having clients to pay and wait for physicals rental. Just maintain your reputation and let the healthy competition works its way naturally, do not panic.
No doubts that you have served many folks here, but sharing false claims and threatening users that they may or may not lose something unless they work with you is a bit of a stretch and I see it myself as being laughable.
HAHAHAHA.. .why do you see the need for hijacking this thread with false claims. Let people piece fully know what options are out there. Man, you have good reputation, maintain as such without sharing false claims. US or non-US coder (in all cases they come from the same source), in all cases you are just like them located outside the US connecting remotely, while others know how to send their equipment signal also remotely via VPN instead of having clients to pay and wait for physicals rental. Just maintain your reputation and let the healthy competition works its way naturally, do not panic.
No doubts that you have served many folks here, but sharing false claims and threatening users that they may or may not lose something unless they work with you is a bit of a stretch and I see it myself as being laughable.
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ZenZefy will write it's access in the car forever in this case a license from Singapore Asia. You have no idea of what you are talking about
But everything is said in the tittle "LOW COST"
I could have taking these W223's before if I didn't care about customers cars, but I didn't, I care, a reputation
Amen
good luck
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ZenZefy will write it's access in the car forever in this case a license from Singapore Asia. You have no idea of what you are talking about
But everything is said in the tittle "LOW COST"
I could have taking these W223's before if I didn't care about customers cars, but I didn't, I care, a reputation
Amen
good luck
I am not claiming this it doesn’t register that way, I am holding you accountable to your claims assuming you are the only one who has US license or know how to do it.
i am willing to prove you wrong and ready to take my vehicle this week to my dealer to prove you wrong.
the arrogance of thinking nobody in the world knows how to do it except you lands at the peak of greenness mountain.
Your panicking behavior here speaks to itself, u could have acted professionally but decided to hijack and attack everyone posting about any other coder (not just me, but you begged several members to remove their comments too, and that alone is silly)
I am not claiming this it doesn’t register that way, I am holding you accountable to your claims assuming you are the only one who has US license or know how to do it.
i am willing to prove you wrong and ready to take my vehicle tomorrow to my dealer to prove you wrong.
the arrogance of thinking nobody in the world knows how to do it except you lands at the peak of greenness mountain.
Your panicking behavior here speaks to itself, u could have acted professionally but decided to hijack and attack everyone posting about any other coder (not just me, but you begged several members to remove their comments too, and that alone is silly)
Let's take it easy here...
For one I appreciate you wanting to share your experience with your W222. That's good.
Endorsing a vendor and their coding results for a platform which you don't own or have any experience with is not ok. Nor do you have relevant experience what impact this has on owners. Most W222's are out of warranty and therefore this matters less.
Let's take it easy here...
For one I appreciate you wanting to share your experience with your W222. That's good.
Endorsing a vendor and their coding results for a platform which you don't own or have any experience with is not ok. Nor do you have relevant experience what impact this has on owners. Most W222's are out of warranty and therefore this matters less.
I 100% agree on the warranty topic. Just to clarify though, as you said, it more about experience sharing than endorsing but apparently the competition is tight so that the other side seems worried (which is also understandable).
On the country source side false claim, there is no such tracking for country nor his photo indicates any of that too. They all buy C4 and licenses from the US anyway and they all appear the same. But hey again, it is what it is, am just sharing my experience.
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.]. The W223 uses the same new communication tech and can communicate well that way (I saw this same cable on YouTube coding videos for W223 and new vehicles with MBUX).. . It is only the older vehicles or W222 needs slightly difference cable to code all modules, so you should be good with this one for W223 but I'd double check with him if I were you and send him the link.
