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In fairness though, most German car makers seem to struggle with their wireless charging pads. This is also found in BMWs and Audis.
And here's another mystery. I bought a $19.00 Belkin wireless charging pad several years ago when I bought an iPhone 10. The 10 was the first iPhone with built in wireless charging. The Belkin device charged that phone perfectly. I then bought an iPhone 11 and still had perfect success with the Belkin device. I traded the 11 on an iPhone 14 Pro, brought it home and threw it on the old Belkin charger. It still charged the new iPhone perfectly. So the mystery is how Belkin could years ago design a $19 charging pad that is compatible with the latest iPhone when the master engineers of Germany appear to be unable to design a $130,000.00 plus charging pad that will perform as well as the $19.00 device made in China. I invite any Mercedes engineer who might be monitoring this forum to publicly explain the precise reason for their failure and to apologize to all of us.




Last edited by superswiss; May 7, 2023 at 06:25 PM.
I’m an IT consultant and imagine my customer finding out that the server I just delivered to them will sometime run and sometime not run their business application. I’d be out of work very soon lol.
All I’m saying is there should be a proper fix from Mercedes instead of excuses or just plain ignoring customers.




I’m an IT consultant and imagine my customer finding out that the server I just delivered to them will sometime run and sometime not run their business application. I’d be out of work very soon lol.
All I’m saying is there should be a proper fix from Mercedes instead of excuses or just plain ignoring customers.
Last edited by superswiss; May 7, 2023 at 07:39 PM.
1. Neither Mercedes nor any other vendor of a product assembled with components manufactured by others can blame the component manufacturer. It is a Mercedes, every last nut and bolt of it. Whether the component was manufactured in Poland or Vietnam, Mercedes is responsible for it and must issue a fix or recall it if it malfunctions.
2, It is not by happenstance that my Belkin $19.00 charging pad bought from Best Buy about five years ago charges my iPhone 14 Pro. It is solid engineering, and certainly does not require that I make multiple efforts placing it just right to make it do its job. I pretty much just throw the iPhone on the pad and it charges right up. What would cause an intelligent Mercedes engineer to adopt some method of charging that differed from that adopted by a company like Belkin that manufactures its products in China and sells on the cheap.
3. All that you said notwithstanding, there is still absolutely no excuse for Mercedes' failure to issue a fix. Apple has an incredible percentage of the smartphone market, and you would think that it would be a matter of pride for Mercedes to make its product work with the most advanced Apple iPhone. Instead all the Mercedes engineers do is sit idly by with their thumbs up their ---ears--- and blame someone else for what is an inexcusable failure in the most expensive sedan you can buy without getting into a Bentley or Rolls Royce.
We should, each and every one of us, write Mercedes about this engineering failure until it fixes it in our very expensive cars. And while we are at it, we should also let the engineers know how badly they missed the mark in providing in vehicle WiFi through T-Mobile. I had in vehicle WiFi in a 2018 GMC Denali HD pickup, so I am not in the mood to hear excuses about whey it is not Mercedes' fault because someone else provided the component. This company needs to step up to the plate and make the systems work in their cars just the way such systems work in a Ford. And if Mercedes can't do that, they need to issue a very public apology and send each of us some money back for features bought and paid for that do not work.
It's working beautifully in mine.
And these phones don't have any magnets in them.
This is just ridiculous.

The iPhone case is a bit more complicated (without knowing the details). Apple is known about its own decisions (for good and for bad) like not supporting NFC, not supporting bluetooth SAP, not supporting bluetooth DUN, not supporting full phone book download as visitor cards etc. etc. They don't care about legacy, cars built before BT PAN was specified and only work on DUN. One cannot expect the owner to sell his old car because a new phone does not do what the old phone did in his old car!
On wireless charging I'd stress that there are rules (specs) on how to build the charging pad and how to build the device to be charged. Apple cannot test every pad on the market to be sure their phone works with all of them, specifically not those that have been release after the phone was built. Still all of the pads should work even with an old iPhone if both sides were following the specs. Obviously it should work the other way too, if/when the charging pad in the car was built according to the specs, charging should work with every phone (that physically fits to the car).
Now if some iPhone does not work (well), I'm afraid it is obvious which side was bending the rules (specifications). Still I would blame MB a bit too if this iPhone was available at the time of the charging pad part acceptance. MB as any manufacturer should also do some interworking tests with popular products like iPhones and adapt to their bent rules if possible to make everyone happy. Without access to inside info, it is not possible to say if MB did what they should have done.
The iPhone case is a bit more complicated (without knowing the details). Apple is known about its own decisions (for good and for bad) like not supporting NFC, not supporting bluetooth SAP, not supporting bluetooth DUN, not supporting full phone book download as visitor cards etc. etc. They don't care about legacy, cars built before BT PAN was specified and only work on DUN. One cannot expect the owner to sell his old car because a new phone does not do what the old phone did in his old car!
On wireless charging I'd stress that there are rules (specs) on how to build the charging pad and how to build the device to be charged. Apple cannot test every pad on the market to be sure their phone works with all of them, specifically not those that have been release after the phone was built. Still all of the pads should work even with an old iPhone if both sides were following the specs. Obviously it should work the other way too, if/when the charging pad in the car was built according to the specs, charging should work with every phone (that physically fits to the car).
Now if some iPhone does not work (well), I'm afraid it is obvious which side was bending the rules (specifications). Still I would blame MB a bit too if this iPhone was available at the time of the charging pad part acceptance. MB as any manufacturer should also do some interworking tests with popular products like iPhones and adapt to their bent rules if possible to make everyone happy. Without access to inside info, it is not possible to say if MB did what they should have done.
Ok then, in that case, I guess I've just been unlucky - both my front and rear charging pads apparently have broken. For no apparent reason...


The interesting thing is that I gave 2 wireless chargers in my home and with both I have to move the phone around multiple times to get it to charge. No so with the car just place it on the pad and it charges until I take it off
Last edited by DESAL; May 9, 2023 at 09:31 AM.

Apparently, these charging pads will refuse to charge any NFC-enabled device. I have my apartment key on NFC on all my phones, so naturally none of them charged in the car. Disabling NFC allowed them to resume charging immediately.
I hate MB's electronics engineers.
Last edited by rw594; May 10, 2023 at 10:30 AM.





