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2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
These new VW Micro Buses will sell like hotcakes and dealers will be marking them way up for sometime. They are probably burning the midnight oil in Wolfsburg, dreaming up special editions ad nauseam. I’m sure there are going to be psychedelic versions and more than one artist will use them as a blank canvas four outrageous creations. With the bus being electric, you can bet that most every wealthy greenie living in The People’s Republic of Santa Monica and other progressive environs will be snapping them up as fashion accessories. I expect a flood of used Prius models to hit the market about the same time the buses are released.
These new VW Micro Buses will sell like hotcakes and dealers will be marking them way up for sometime. They are probably burning the midnight oil in Wolfsburg, dreaming up special editions ad nauseam. I’m sure there are going to be psychedelic versions and more than one artist will use them as a blank canvas four outrageous creations. With the bus being electric, you can bet that most every wealthy greenie living in The People’s Republic of Santa Monica and other progressive environs will be snapping them up as fashion accessories. I expect a flood of used Prius models to hit the market about the same time the buses are released.
This new Vanagon kind of reminds me of the revived Beetle 20 years ago and the revived Ford Thunderbird at about that same time. They start selling strong for a little while on the market and then they disappear again. My biggest concern about this new van is the fact that the rear seated row of passengers won't have windows to look out of. Would it be better looking and more desirable if it had windows 360 degrees around the vehicle?
These new VW Micro Buses will sell like hotcakes and dealers will be marking them way up for sometime. They are probably burning the midnight oil in Wolfsburg, dreaming up special editions ad nauseam. I’m sure there are going to be psychedelic versions and more than one artist will use them as a blank canvas four outrageous creations. With the bus being electric, you can bet that most every wealthy greenie living in The People’s Republic of Santa Monica and other progressive environs will be snapping them up as fashion accessories. I expect a flood of used Prius models to hit the market about the same time the buses are released.
Well poopoo on that. I'm not paying any damn markup fees.....but unfortunately you're probably right damnit.....sigh....guess we'll find out soon enough
I have not been a buyer in this recent(covid) mark up era in car buying.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by MBS63AMG
This new Vanagon kind of reminds me of the revived Beetle 20 years ago and the revived Ford Thunderbird at about that same time. They start selling strong for a little while on the market and then they disappear again. My biggest concern about this new van is the fact that the rear seated row of passengers won't have windows to look out of. Would it be better looking and more desirable if it had windows 360 degrees around the vehicle?
I had promised my wife that I would buy her a new Thunderbird when they were first announced. Then, the cars came out and it is difficult to remember a car that had more promise, but was designed & produced in such a way, that it was a huge failure. I actually wrote a letter to the then Chairman of the company Edsel Ford. I told him how the exterior design was nice, but that Ford completely missed the boat by not offering it in the exterior & interior COLORS that made the baby birds such a huge success in the 50’s. Had I been a much wealthier man back then, I would have painted one of the new birds Turquoise Blue and had the interior done in Turquoise & white leather and I would have sent the car to him. If I recall correctly, all of the interiors of the new cars were at least half black, with another color as an accent. Can you imagine if the new birds were offered in the retro exterior colors, with matching, full color interiors? Every housewife would have wanted one.
Of course, the new birds had other problems as well. They did not have good ride quality, didn’t handle well, were sluggish and for the most part, were not engineered well. Ford spent all that money designing a nice body, but then gave lip service to the rest of the design. The new, 2-seat Thunderbirds were a colossal failure when they could have been a grand slam home run.
This new Vanagon kind of reminds me of the revived Beetle 20 years ago and the revived Ford Thunderbird at about that same time. They start selling strong for a little while on the market and then they disappear again. My biggest concern about this new van is the fact that the rear seated row of passengers won't have windows to look out of. Would it be better looking and more desirable if it had windows 360 degrees around the vehicle?
It does have windows around the vehicle. Do you mean about how they don’t roll down?
I really wanted to like the new 8er and looked at one after I got my CLS, but I think BMW just can't top the old 6er, especially the Gran Coupe. That car was just gorgeous from every angle inside and out, and easily outclassed the CLS of that time in my opinion. The old 6er looks like a nice tight suit with beautiful creases and sharp body lines and a perfect roof line. The new 8er is not an ugly car, and in fact one of the better if not best looking BMW at the moment, but I find its too curvy and almost rounded in some areas such as the body lines, the c-pillar area of the roof, and the hoff kink. Even the interior of the old 6er looked more special than the newer and more expensive 8er thanks to the way the dashboard curves and flows into the center console.
I really wanted to like the new 8er and looked at one after I got my CLS, but I think BMW just can't top the old 6er, especially the Gran Coupe. That car was just gorgeous from every angle inside and out, and easily outclassed the CLS of that time in my opinion. The old 6er looks like a nice tight suit with beautiful creases and sharp body lines and a perfect roof line. The new 8er is not an ugly car, and in fact one of the better if not best looking BMW at the moment, but I find its too curvy and almost rounded in some areas such as the body lines, the c-pillar area of the roof, and the hoff kink. Even the interior of the old 6er looked more special than the newer and more expensive 8er thanks to the way the dashboard curves and flows into the center console.
I’ll believe it when I see it. Hooydonk and Dukec are single handedly ruining the brand from a design perspective while the chassis engineers are softening the cars too much.
2025 Maserati Grecale Folgore and 2024 Jaguar F-PACE SVR
2024 Jeep Wrangler S ~$45K new and they're finally updating the technology (don't buy a 2023 model). 2023 Toyota Supra with BMW 3.0L I6 and 6-speed manual transmission ~$55K new (automatics are for mamby pamby wuss girls, so don't buy a 2022). And if Intel goes back to $50/share this year both the Lotus Elise and Eletre can be had nicely optioned for ~$100K, each.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Crito
2024 Jeep Wrangler S ~$45K new and they're finally updating the technology (don't buy a 2023 model). 2023 Toyota Supra with BMW 3.0L I6 and 6-speed manual transmission ~$55K new (automatics are for mamby pamby wuss girls, so don't buy a 2022). And if Intel goes back to $50/share this year both the Lotus Elise and Eletre can be had nicely optioned for ~$100K, each.
I’m glad those vehicles are on YOUR radar, but they are not on mine. No Jeeps that were not made by ******. I’ve had three Supras, which were all SUPRA, but folks currently driving W223’s or 222’s are, most likely, not thinking sports cars. Lotus? Same as Supra. Next contestant!
2025 Maserati Grecale Folgore and 2024 Jaguar F-PACE SVR
Originally Posted by Streamliner
I’m glad those vehicles are on YOUR radar, but they are not on mine. No Jeeps that were not made by ******. I’ve had three Supras, which were all SUPRA, but folks currently driving W223’s or 222’s are, most likely, not thinking sports cars. Lotus? Same as Supra. Next contestant!
Unfortunately Mercedes' I6 in the GLE is a "mild hybrid" so you get the disadvantages of both worlds: expensive battery that'll need replacing and constant maintenance of the gas engine. I almost bought a used 2020 GLE 450 with E-Active Body Control though. There's only one CPO in the whole country right now, in Alpharetta, GA.
I’m glad those vehicles are on YOUR radar, but they are not on mine. No Jeeps that were not made by ******. I’ve had three Supras, which were all SUPRA, but folks currently driving W223’s or 222’s are, most likely, not thinking sports cars. Lotus? Same as Supra. Next contestant!
My wife has a Jeep. I get that the wrangler has a huge following and they look great lifted with the big tires but the interior quality, ride quality, and stereo are terrible.
It does have windows around the vehicle. Do you mean about how they don’t roll down?
I'm just basing that on the pictures posted above. It appears to have full metal from top to bottom at the back 1/3 of the vehicle. Am I seeing it wrong? Correction: I just went back and looked and all but the white one seems to have windows. The white looks like solid metal but it might just be a white screen rolled up making it appear as a solid sheet metal siding.
Last edited by MBS63AMG; May 30, 2023 at 12:13 AM.
2025 Maserati Grecale Folgore and 2024 Jaguar F-PACE SVR
Originally Posted by ColeBlooded
My wife has a Jeep. I get that the wrangler has a huge following and they look great lifted with the big tires but the interior quality, ride quality, and stereo are terrible.
i'm not a fan of 4 door Jeeps with a truck bed despite their popularity. You can't maneuver something like that around trees without bringing a chainsaw with you. I need a short wheelbase and a full size spare tire and the two door Wrangler fits that bill perfectly. Plus if I do hit a tree I can afford to fix it. Off roading in a G wagon sounds like an expensive proposition.
i'm not a fan of 4 door Jeeps with a truck bed despite their popularity. You can't maneuver something like that around trees without bringing a chainsaw with you. I need a short wheelbase and a full size spare tire and the two door Wrangler fits that bill perfectly. Plus if I do hit a tree I can afford to fix it. Off roading in a G wagon sounds like an expensive proposition.
I'm with you on those retarded 4 door/pickup truck jeeps! SO STUPID!
Jeep stopped making Jeeps (cj7) in 1986 IMO
I'm just basing that on the pictures posted above. It appears to have full metal from top to bottom at the back 1/3 of the vehicle. Am I seeing it wrong? Correction: I just went back and looked and all but the white one seems to have windows. The white looks like solid metal but it might just be a white screen rolled up making it appear as a solid sheet metal siding.
Probably will be an S-Class replacement. The S-Class was bought purposefully as a company vehicle with specifically the need for a large back seat but things changed and I went abroad for business so the car ended up not being driven much. When the lease is up I likely won't be needing a large executive sedan anymore. I do really like the S, but I think I want to get in an AMG before they're all electric/downsized. That being said knowing my luck (and my attention span with cars) something newer and different will come along or I'll end up needing a four door and things could change. But at the moment, something smaller, sportier, and with a V8 is the goal.
I see, then it does indeed sound like the R232 AMG SL 63 will be on your shopping list. Our needs changes pretty quick eh : ) so unpredictable at times too :/ For example first we need a full size car now we don't need it or then we have to have an SUV (just as an example)
I really wanted to like the new 8er and looked at one after I got my CLS, but I think BMW just can't top the old 6er, especially the Gran Coupe. That car was just gorgeous from every angle inside and out, and easily outclassed the CLS of that time in my opinion. The old 6er looks like a nice tight suit with beautiful creases and sharp body lines and a perfect roof line. The new 8er is not an ugly car, and in fact one of the better if not best looking BMW at the moment, but I find its too curvy and almost rounded in some areas such as the body lines, the c-pillar area of the roof, and the hoff kink. Even the interior of the old 6er looked more special than the newer and more expensive 8er thanks to the way the dashboard curves and flows into the center console.
If only BMW could make a car this gorgeous again
I guess the other problem is that the new 8er looks just like the 3er interior wise, imo.
The dramatic styling like curves is definitely a theme at BMW's design team I figured, first those curves you mentioned then the grille, there are also lots of curves and lines on the new 5er as well not the same extent as a Hyundai Elantra but a lot.
I was able to check out the new IDBuzz while in Europe. Very awesome car, and glad its coming to the US (even if it is in LWB form). My only issue with it is VW software right now, its pretty bad, hopefully it will be refreshed by the time it reached the states. And please do get a fun color combo! These look awesome in two tone.
I guarantee you that if you drive a vehicle like this VW, you will have the most beautiful, straight, gorgeous women banging on your doors all day long. Biggest and best selling point of "The Thing".
I guarantee you that if you drive a vehicle like this VW, you will have the most beautiful, straight, gorgeous women banging on your doors all day long. Biggest and best selling point of "The Thing".
Honestly though, I always liked quirky looking VW cars, like the VW Beetle and the original VW bus. Oh and Mr Bean's mini, those are cute too.
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
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