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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 05:04 AM
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I love my Benz S Class, done 20000km on it, I wonder if there's any difference in other country market models, love to learn more about our car.

My car is W223 ( V223) S450 4matic in Sliver, with a 2.5 l6 engine(China special), upgraded options, double glazed windows + 10-degree rear wheel steering pair with 20-inch wheel, front 255 rear 285







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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 05:53 AM
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Hmm, where'd you get your double-glazed windows? I'm pretty sure that is only available on the S500 variant in China.
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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 06:08 AM
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I found the parts number in the MB parts system, and order it straight from MB,

I planning to install the S63e rear diffuser sometime next month...
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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MR.0
I love my Benz S Class, done 20000km on it, I wonder if there's any difference in other country market models, love to learn more about our car.

My car is W223 ( V223) S450 4matic in Sliver, with a 2.5 l6 engine(China special), upgraded options, double glazed windows + 10-degree rear wheel steering pair with 20-inch wheel, front 255 rear 285
Did the car come from the factory with those wheels? 285 wide rear tyres should not be safe with 10 degree rear wheel steering!




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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Did the car come from the factory with those wheels? 285 wide rear tyres should not be safe with 10 degree rear wheel steering!

I thought only 21’s were contraindicated and it was fine with 19’s or 20’s.
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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by aypues
I thought only 21’s were contraindicated and it was fine with 19’s or 20’s.
From my understanding and I believe this forum's consensus, the issue is likely the tire width, not the rim size. I think that the 285 width tires are too wide for 10 degree
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Old Jun 28, 2023 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MR.0
I found the parts number in the MB parts system, and order it straight from MB,

I planning to install the S63e rear diffuser sometime next month...
That will definitely improve the appearance of the rear of the car. First thing I noticed was how I don't like the area at the muffler tips and in between.
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Old Jun 29, 2023 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MR.0
I love my Benz S Class, done 20000km on it, I wonder if there's any difference in other country market models, love to learn more about our car.

My car is W223 ( V223) S450 4matic in Sliver, with a 2.5 l6 engine(China special), upgraded options, double glazed windows + 10-degree rear wheel steering pair with 20-inch wheel, front 255 rear 285



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V223? Long wheel base right, how come it is missing the long wheel base badge on the rear pillar of which I seen online of long wheel base MBs?
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
V223? Long wheel base right, how come it is missing the long wheel base badge on the rear pillar of which I seen online of long wheel base MBs?
You mean the "L" for lang? Mine is a V223 and it has no L-letter, neither anyone of those cars posted at the picture thread here (most cars are US cars, LWB). Any link to those online photos with the long wheel base badge?
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
You mean the "L" for lang? Mine is a V223 and it has no L-letter, neither anyone of those cars posted at the picture thread here (most cars are US cars, LWB). Any link to those online photos with the long wheel base badge?
no no, only OP's market has that logo, not anywhere else that has a long wheel base car. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TT26-w-1d1Q/maxresdefault.jpg
That being said, I stand partially corrected as I didn't know it wasn't on the S-Class.
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
no no, only OP's market has that logo, not anywhere else that has a long wheel base car. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TT26-w-1d1Q/maxresdefault.jpg
That being said, I stand partially corrected as I didn't know it wasn't on the S-Class.
Have not seen that but the car is no V223 but a V213 (I guess only Chinese market).
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Have not seen that but the car is no V223 but a V213 (I guess only Chinese market).
Ya hence why I said I stand partially corrected, ya only in OP market, that badge isn't in any other country. I am aware that is a 213 in that image I recall seeing it on the forums and therefore aware OP's market has that badge so I was surprised it wasn't there on the pillar when OP showed us the images. Then I realized that badge is not on the W223, period. I couldn't find it even on their country's configurator. I am guessing because long wheel base is standard in OP's country and the long wheel base 213 isn't but long wheel base 213 is exclusive to OP's market after all. : )
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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Seen any 2024 AMG S63 "look" after market replacement grills that fit the standard 2021-2023 W223/V223 grill openings yet? Wonder if the radar units and camera will be interchangeable. China rocks with aftermarket parts for MB's. Thanks.
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Old Jul 3, 2023 | 06:10 AM
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What is the advantage to the window upgrade? Xie xie!
The upgraded window is heat reduced with the V-kool window film built into it ( I Think), and the double layer will help with road noise big time, you can notice the difference, highly recommend it.
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Old Jul 3, 2023 | 06:16 AM
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Yes, the S450L 4matic comes with the AMG package as standard, wheel spec front 255/40R20 101Y, rear 285/35R20 104Y


Regarding the Safety problem, I didn't notice any difference when driving even at high speed(90mph), can you give me more information? I want to know more...Thanks!
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Old Jul 3, 2023 | 06:45 AM
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Seen any 2024 AMG S63 "look" after market replacement grills that fit the standard 2021-2023 W223/V223 grill openings yet? Wonder if the radar units and camera will be interchangeable. China rocks with aftermarket parts for MB's. Thanks.


Yes, the w223 S63's aftermarket grill/parts will fit right, but there are some details when installing the electronic parts(needs good tech support), I always recommend OEM parts, which are almost headache free.

I can post an S63 aftermarket grill install demonstration video to show it better but don't know how to do it on this forum.
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Old Jul 3, 2023 | 06:56 AM
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The rear pillar means C pillar right? only C class and E class and Maybach have it.


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Old Jul 3, 2023 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
You mean the "L" for lang? Mine is a V223 and it has no L-letter, neither anyone of those cars posted at the picture thread here (most cars are US cars, LWB). Any link to those online photos with the long wheel base badge?

My car does have the L badge, I just removed all badging for stealth style.
All Chinese S class have L badges, but the Maybach S class only got S480 and S680, don't need the L.


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Old Jul 3, 2023 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MR.0
My car does have the L badge, I just removed all badging for stealth style.
All Chinese S class have L badges, but the Maybach S class only got S480 and S680, don't need the L.
Interesting if they have the L badge for some markets. The Maybach sort of cannot have the L badge because it is longer than the 223.1.

I used to order the 260 option (no badges) but the factory does not allow this for hybrids. Some sort of forced green marketing.
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Originally Posted by MR.0
The rear pillar means C pillar right? only C class and E class and Maybach have it.


Yes that is what I mean, c-pillar I should had specified sorry about the confusion, that long wheel base specific badge as seen in the first image and thanks for confirming to me that W223 doesn't get it, I guess it makes sense since S-Class in your market is long wheel by standard?
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MR.0
The upgraded window is heat reduced with the V-kool window film built into it ( I Think), and the double layer will help with road noise big time, you can notice the difference, highly recommend it.
Is that the acoustic comfort package or is that something else, if something else what are the main differences?
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Interesting if they have the L badge for some markets. The Maybach sort of cannot have the L badge because it is longer than the 223.1.

I used to order the 260 option (no badges) but the factory does not allow this for hybrids. Some sort of forced green marketing.
Ya I guess they are trying to get people to consider the "greener" stuff, so you can't even delete the badges yourself after taking possession? It is the law or do you mean you can't order with it deleted?
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Yes that is what I mean, c-pillar I should had specified sorry about the confusion, that long wheel base specific badge as seen in the first image and thanks for confirming to me that W223 doesn't get it, I guess it makes sense since S-Class in your market is long wheel by standard?
That is a 'China-only' badge. No other market in the world have it.

It is MB China's attempt to differentiate the long wheel base versions of E and C class from their regular counterparts, for this specific market. Customers here, on average, are much less educated on the nuances of different models, so aggresive, in-your-face badging like this is required, to help them move the more expensive model variants.

For the average Chinese customer, just obscurely knowing that your car is a few inches longer than your neighbour's, is not enough. They need to visually 'see' that extra money

Vulgar. But it is what it is.
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