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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 11:13 AM
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Driver aids help, but you MUST watch the road….

We had another bad one here on Pacific Coast Highway in Newport Beach last night. The MB—is that a C or E Class?—had 3 occupants and it slammed into a box truck that was parked. It was 8pm and the driver of the MB was killed, the two passengers had to be “extracted” from the vehicle and are hospitalized. I don’t know if the truck was parked up on the sidewalk or if the force of the collision moved it up there.

One would have hoped that the collision avoidance systems in this MB would have prevented the crash, but the angle may have been off and the system may have not seen the high, overhanging truck body in time. Bottom line is that the driver—may he rest in peace—was obviously distracted and should have been watching the road. No word on whether alcohol or drugs played a role.

I hate the ever increasing amount of distractions that our techno-wonder vehicles bombard us with. Let’s all try to stay focused on driving safely.






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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 11:28 AM
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That looks like an E. I agree. My EQ is the first car with adaptive cruise. And that's only because I bought the car off the lot. I won't use it, I don't trust it.
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 12:24 PM
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 12:25 PM
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That looks like an E. I agree. My EQ is the first car with adaptive cruise. And that's only because I bought the car off the lot. I won't use it, I don't trust it.
Well, I actually think very highly of the Distronic Plus system and use the adaptive cruise often. I look at it as "another pair of eyes" watching the road for me. In our horrendous Southern California freeway traffic, where one can slog through bumper to bumper traffic for hours, its is absolutely invaluable. That said, I never absolutely rely on it. I try to always watch the road and to use the systems as "assistance," helping me take care.
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 01:14 PM
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That sucks. I know all trucks are supposed to have rear bumpers that have a minimum height requirement to mitigate such accidents, but it looks like he or she went in at a slight angle.

Also, does that E class have the same intelligent drive safety system as our car? I think theirs will just beep and pre-tension/prime and maybe try and slow you down. Also, I thought most of our systems protection was based around pedestrian avoidance. Does anyone know if our cars will slam on the brakes to avoid colliding with a parked car?
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 01:18 PM
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I suppose you are right. I've had my car a short time, still getting used to it, and Distronic. But to your point, don't rely on it.

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Well, I actually think very highly of the Distronic Plus system and use the adaptive cruise often. I look at it as "another pair of eyes" watching the road for me. In our horrendous Southern California freeway traffic, where one can slog through bumper to bumper traffic for hours, its is absolutely invaluable. That said, I never absolutely rely on it. I try to always watch the road and to use the systems as "assistance," helping me take care.
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
We had another bad one here on Pacific Coast Highway in Newport Beach last night. The MB—is that a C or E Class?—had 3 occupants and it slammed into a box truck that was parked. It was 8pm and the driver of the MB was killed, the two passengers had to be “extracted” from the vehicle and are hospitalized. I don’t know if the truck was parked up on the sidewalk or if the force of the collision moved it up there.

One would have hoped that the collision avoidance systems in this MB would have prevented the crash, but the angle may have been off and the system may have not seen the high, overhanging truck body in time. Bottom line is that the driver—may he rest in peace—was obviously distracted and should have been watching the road. No word on whether alcohol or drugs played a role.

I hate the ever increasing amount of distractions that our techno-wonder vehicles bombard us with. Let’s all try to stay focused on driving safely.


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That looks like the W206, notice the seat controls in the rear ( the floating gloss piano panel housing the capacitive touch stuff is shown) the taillights and the exhaust tips are very W206 as well but anyways, like you said, driver aids are what they are "aids" it is meant to help assist the driver and by no means take full control of the driving, that is the driver's responsibility. It is not an autonomous vehicle.
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 11:59 PM
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As it turns out, I drove right by the location of this accident today. ZERO SKID MARKS!
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 09:50 AM
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That's frightening and @W205C43PFL I stand corrected, that does look like a 206.
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by teksurv
That's frightening and @W205C43PFL I stand corrected, that does look like a 206.
Honestly speaking, MB models look so alike nowadays that you can't even tell the difference... or well... the differences aren't obvious.

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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 10:06 AM
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Sadly no one could had survived that no matter how well built or safe a car is (structurally) no matter any car since the whole truck pierced through the windshield. Luck was the main problem there because if the vehicle crashed at a different angle, the driver might had survived but then maybe the passenger might had got killed though... Bad angle of approach causing death. Still don't know the full story on the accident but like OP said, must be driver being distracted and didn't see the stationary truck?

As another example, in one of the GLS thread, a truck dropped a load cargo (?) or what on a GLB killing the driver, unfortunately in that case, it was that the GLB being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Sadly no one could had survived that no matter how well built or safe a car is (structurally) no matter any car since the whole truck pierced through the windshield. Luck was the main problem there because if the vehicle crashed at a different angle, the driver might had survived but then maybe the passenger might had got killed though... Bad angle of approach causing death. Still don't know the full story on the accident but like OP said, must be driver being distracted and didn't see the stationary truck?

As another example, in one of the GLS thread, a truck dropped a load cargo (?) or what on a GLB killing the driver, unfortunately in that case, it was that the GLB being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Thinking more about the accident, I would not be surprised to find that all three occupants were staring at their phones. Zero skid marks?
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
Thinking more about the accident, I would not be surprised to find that all three occupants were staring at their phones. Zero skid marks?
Hmmm, zero skid marks.... You are right. Sure makes you wonder.
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Is there a stoplight near there? Why was the truck stopped at that location?
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenetic
Is there a stoplight near there? Why was the truck stopped at that location?
Likely parked to unload, the cargo door is open.

As for if it was legal parking there, that not sure.

The truck isn't small so unless the W206 driver was driving fast or distracted or both, they would had seen the parked truck and able to react in time.
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Geez that’s an awful crash scene. I wonder if that truck was too small to require an underride barrier (Mansfield barrier).

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Terrible scene...

I see this all the time, fault is shared by the truck driver. You can't stop a truck in the middle of the road, and half on a sidewalk up over a curb to unload because its convenient. There should have been police present and signs and cones if that was authorized. I see this all the time where I live, trucks just stop in the middle of the damn road and unload because the building has no loading dock or its inconvenient.
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Terrible scene...

I see this all the time, fault is shared by the truck driver. You can't stop a truck in the middle of the road, and half on a sidewalk up over a curb to unload because its convenient. There should have been police present and signs and cones if that was authorized. I see this all the time where I live, trucks just stop in the middle of the damn road and unload because the building has no loading dock or its inconvenient.
I share your thoughts and experience seeing these drivers here as well. I do see it often for those who rent trucks, professional movers tends to do it less.
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I am wondering about one thing, I wonder (although I am not an SUV person) if it was an SUV, the driver could had survived? Thoughts?
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Very possible, being higher up
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Very possible, being higher up
I see I thought so but sadly an accident is an accident, it is not intentional and it is something that you can't really predict, so is life stay safe guys.
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They used to be called 'wrecks' and wrecks are rarely accidents; there is usually error or negligence involved. There is a small push toward changing that and I hope they have some success because I tire of the euphemisms used to excuse failure.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
As it turns out, I drove right by the location of this accident today. ZERO SKID MARKS!
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) maybe?
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