Just ordered a new S580
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Just ordered a new S580
I got tired of waiting for S63 orders to open up, so I pulled the trigger on an S580. This will be my third MB (2014 CLS550 & 2021 E63S) and I'm already looking forward to the car, reading the manual, etc. The first two were Lunar Blue and I'm hoping that Nautical Blue is just as nice.
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Congrats. Any notable options?
How long did they tell you it will take from order to delivery? I intend to order my next S class as well and I’m curious on the timing versus my current lease.
How long did they tell you it will take from order to delivery? I intend to order my next S class as well and I’m curious on the timing versus my current lease.
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Nautical Blue
Macchiato/Grey
Burl Walnut
Warmth & Comfort
3D Technology
20" Y-Multispoke
E-Active Body Control
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Have you driven an S580 with EABC? As someone who had it on my 2022 S580, I STRONGLY recommend that you take an extended test drive in an EABC equipped car, before you hand them your $6,500.00 for that option. I have had many MB’s with either ABC or MBC and I truly loved the ride quality those systems delivered. I was SO looking forward to EABC being a huge step forward, but was tremendously disappointed in it. In my opinion, the standard AirMatic is the best bet for the W223 cars. Hopefully, they will rework the EABC system for the 2025 refresh models, but I’m not holding my breath. Best of luck to you.
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While I don't have a lot of experience with my 2023 with EABC, my drive from Houston to West Palm Beach, FL (1200 miles) was wonderful. And of course, the Nautical Blue is absolutely the best color! Just got it back from my film guy and a complete Xpel film and ceramic treatment from Front to rear...looks amazing! Now it is getting the calipers painted red. So, tonight, it will be the exact way I want it!
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If you're not into it, you're not into it. The 4D is quite good though; I've had it elsewhere, but this one is the top dog. Still, you don't see that money on the other side so I guess a skip is a good choice.
Other options to consider: The console with the pattern on it looks a little better than the plain black, doesn't visibly fingerprint up as fast, and it's cheap. You don't have rear steer in there and I understand it's not available in the Luxury line, but it's a nice add. You then push to AMG with the substantial price bump but, it's a big benny in the lots so worth at least a quick ponder if you've not already gone there.
Good choice on the suspension, you don't see that money on the other side either, and most long time owners report it being less cush. Not a good thing on a car that absolutely does not encourage hooliganism.
Other options to consider: The console with the pattern on it looks a little better than the plain black, doesn't visibly fingerprint up as fast, and it's cheap. You don't have rear steer in there and I understand it's not available in the Luxury line, but it's a nice add. You then push to AMG with the substantial price bump but, it's a big benny in the lots so worth at least a quick ponder if you've not already gone there.
Good choice on the suspension, you don't see that money on the other side either, and most long time owners report it being less cush. Not a good thing on a car that absolutely does not encourage hooliganism.
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You don't have rear steer in there and I understand it's not available in the Luxury line, but it's a nice add. You then push to AMG with the substantial price bump but, it's a big benny in the lots so worth at least a quick ponder if you've not already gone there.
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Agree with all of that.
Why they went with the black for the lower console is a mystery to me, doesn't belong in your uber sedan no matter what badge it's wearing. And yeah; it would be much easier to make a list of people who didn't complain about the way the options/packages are set up in the US. In fact; I'll go ahead and write all the member names below, as near as I can recall, that said they were happy with it.
Why they went with the black for the lower console is a mystery to me, doesn't belong in your uber sedan no matter what badge it's wearing. And yeah; it would be much easier to make a list of people who didn't complain about the way the options/packages are set up in the US. In fact; I'll go ahead and write all the member names below, as near as I can recall, that said they were happy with it.
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Re: e-abc from what I've read it doesn't help much with comfort but does help with sporty driving. If you were looking at an S63, it's probably wirth getting e-abc to get the good handling.
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It sounds like Mercedes should have stuck with traditional hydraulic suspension. The electrohydraulic system offers simplicity (a big plus) and lower fuel consumption (meh), but apparently can't match the actuator driven awesomeness of continuous hydraulic flow.
Research Article on electromechanical hydraulic suspension:
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_body_control
Research Article on electromechanical hydraulic suspension:
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_body_control
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It sounds like Mercedes should have stuck with traditional hydraulic suspension. The electrohydraulic system offers simplicity (a big plus) and lower fuel consumption (meh), but apparently can't match the actuator driven awesomeness of continuous hydraulic flow.
Research Article on electromechanical hydraulic suspension:
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_body_control
Research Article on electromechanical hydraulic suspension:
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_body_control
https://www.motortrend.com/events/ma...sion-ces-2024/
I would get EABC again if they can get rid of the camera and use sensors instead.
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The MB Active Body Control (ABC) and Magic Body Control (MBC) systems are absolutely marvelous. I had a 2013 S550 with ABC and then three W222’s with MBC. Those cars were “THE” best riding & handling sedans I have ever driven. The systems did EVERYTHING amazingly well. Bumps and other road imperfections virtually disappeared and the cars had a “Magic Carpet” ride quality that I believe was absolutely world class. It was very evident that MB took whatever time was necessary to properly test, tune and adjust the systems perfectly. Unfortunately, when E-ABC was offered on the W223 sedans, the $6,500.00 optional suspension system appeared to NOT have been properly tested, tuned and adjusted. The E-ABC equipped 2022 S580 I had offered up exceptionally POOR ride quality, especially at less than highway speeds.
I took my car into Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach—the largest MB dealer in the USA—on numerous occasions, always being told that “the system is operating as designed.” My car had 19” wheels and I changed the tires TWICE to non-run flats, and the ride was still harsh at times and constantly annoying. When I drove an AirMatic equipped W223 loaner, I felt the base suspension to be decidedly better.
At best, the W223 S Class and other new models, launched for MY21 & later, were not properly or thoroughly tested before being delivered to customers. At worst, they were not properly engineered, in my opinion.
I took my car into Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach—the largest MB dealer in the USA—on numerous occasions, always being told that “the system is operating as designed.” My car had 19” wheels and I changed the tires TWICE to non-run flats, and the ride was still harsh at times and constantly annoying. When I drove an AirMatic equipped W223 loaner, I felt the base suspension to be decidedly better.
At best, the W223 S Class and other new models, launched for MY21 & later, were not properly or thoroughly tested before being delivered to customers. At worst, they were not properly engineered, in my opinion.
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The MB Active Body Control (ABC) and Magic Body Control (MBC) systems are absolutely marvelous. I had a 2013 S550 with ABC and then three W222’s with MBC. Those cars were “THE” best riding & handling sedans I have ever driven. The systems did EVERYTHING amazingly well. Bumps and other road imperfections virtually disappeared and the cars had a “Magic Carpet” ride quality that I believe was absolutely world class. It was very evident that MB took whatever time was necessary to properly test, tune and adjust the systems perfectly. Unfortunately, when E-ABC was offered on the W223 sedans, the $6,500.00 optional suspension system appeared to NOT have been properly tested, tuned and adjusted. The E-ABC equipped 2022 S580 I had offered up exceptionally POOR ride quality, especially at less than highway speeds.
Now Mercedes seems to have cheapened out with E-ABC, a whole new approach, that hasn't been tested for decades.
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