RajwanyS550

Just heard this from a dealer that there is a stop notice on all S classes due to a new recall.
any one know anything about this?

Frenetic

Likely the fuel pump. My Honda also got a separate fuel pump recall. I wonder if they’re made by the same crappy manufacturer/supplier.

superswiss

Must be this one.

RajwanyS550

yes that’s the one, no remedy yet, was told until maybe mid or end March.

Fried Chicken

How do you **** something so basic up?

RajwanyS550

any idea when the recall be done and they can sell the cars??

W205C43PFL

Hopefully a remedy is out soon, it is already mid March, you mentioned end of March as well so I guess the latest end of March?

Streamliner

I’m not going to say one word.

W205C43PFL

That's a thousand words already : )

MBS63AMG

I haven't said a word for a year or more. Just peeked back into the forum to see if things were any better.

MBS63AMG

Yep. You got that right.
Still driving the Audi S8. Totally happy, no, but not a single issue with reliability. I really hope the Benz facelift is good as it seems. I will check it out. Will I trade off the Audi: no! If the dash is as good as it seems to appear, that will be the game changer as I like the exterior from day one.

SilberGrau57

This reminds me of an experience my dad had with his '70s Volvo 240 wagon. One day while going down the road, it simply died and left him stranded after coasting to a stop on the side of the road. Turns out it was the fuse for the fuel pump. A single point of failure could leave you stranded by the side of the road or worse. Of course, he did not discover this until it was towed to the shop.

Then I recalled reading a small detail about M-B's of the day, back when their motto was 'Engineered Like No Other Car In The World.' M-B included a mechanical fuel pump in the fuel supply in addition to the electrical pump. Thus, if the electric pump or the fuse failed, the mechanical pump would provide enough fuel pressure to get you to safety.

Of course nowadays you hear the term "limp mode" applied to engines and transmissions that will get you out of a dangerous situation with a reduced capability. So the engineers have considered redundancy and emergency backup situations still.

It looks like M-B is throwing the supplier under the bus on this one, but that still goes back on M-B who should be verifying the supplier's quality control, ISO 9000 and Six-Sigma processes that are in place to make sure substandard components don't make it into the supply chain.

W205C43PFL

Glad you are enjoying you ride, which is the most important thing, spend all that money you want to enjoy your investment. Glad the vehicle is treating you well.

With the stop sale of the W223 and MB themselves saying they are slowing down electrification, hopefully things might get better for MB and for us MB customers.

MBS63AMG

That would be awesome. I plan to go back to the S class or a Porsche Panamera in about a year. Waiting to see how the new dash materializes.

W205C43PFL

People are saying it might get the super screen from the E-Class, honestly I am one simple man, as long as they put a big slab of wood replacing the piano gloss I am happy. Or if no super screen something like this: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...858bf778e.jpeg

sam9187

For some reason IMO, I don't see MB doing the E class screen in the refresh. I feel they can't even fix problems with the current S class - let alone start changing the interior drastically in a refresh but time will tell. I cannot recall an instance (in past) where they changed the dash in a refresh - usually they save such changes for a new model. I will welcome such a change but I am skeptical.

W205C43PFL

Hmmm, guess it was me wishful thinking then.

sam9187

Not quite. Others have reported as well - that the refresh will get the E class screen. You may be right.
I was just saying it's hard for me to believe MB would make a drastic change to the dash but that's only my opinion and not based on any facts.

MBS63AMG

Will the refresh with the more integrated E-class appearance cause the prior W223s to go down in value?

crabman

By all accounts the expectation is the 223 will go long; manufacturers are more likely to make changes that are unusually substantial in those situations. You're also not talking about much of a change; it's easy to look at it and see several routes they might take to clean it up with their existing design language that would require relatively minimal change and expense.

I wouldn't be holding my breath but I also don't think it's at all impossible. The excessive black plastic and lack of buttons were called out by executives as known pain points. You don't usually don't see them discuss these kinds of issues unless they plan to do something about them.

I guess we'll see.

W205C43PFL

Fair enough, wish our dreams come true then.

W205C43PFL

audi pulled an MB with the Q6 Etron that was just revealed yesterday =_=, I was never an audi fan but this just made me hate audi even more.

Frenetic

Audi’s were well known for their sleek yet conservative interiors; the interiors often received high praise from the public and media. I saw the new design and my god, what a disaster.

W205C43PFL

not sure why they decided to do what MB did which is heavily criticized, didn't VW themselves said they would put more buttons back, why did their "luxury department" went against that?

superswiss

I haven't watched any of the unveilings of the Q6 yet. The Q6 is something like 4 years late. It was originally supposed to come out in 2020 or 2021, don't fully remember, but CARIAD, VW's software group could not get their ducks in a row and the software was a disaster, so Audi kept delaying it. Porsche decided not to use CARIAD for the electric Macan. Anything you'll see in the Q6 is basically already 4+ years old now. The current Audi CEO blames the CTO for all of this and wants to oust him. Audi is not doing well these days.