Stop sale on all S class
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Stop sale on all S class
Just heard this from a dealer that there is a stop notice on all S classes due to a new recall.
any one know anything about this?
any one know anything about this?
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Must be this one.
February 16, 2024 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 24V115000
80-Amp Fuse May FailAn 80-Amp fuse that fails can result in a sudden loss of drive power or a loss of critical safety functions such as the restraint systems or instrument cluster, increasing the risk of a crash or injury. Additionally, there could be an increased risk of a fire.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 24V115000
Manufacturer Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC
Components ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Potential Number of Units Affected 31,848
Summary
Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC (MBUSA) is recalling certain 2023-2024 C300, AMG C43, S580e, S580, Maybach S580, Maybach S680, AMG SL43, AMGSL63, GLC300, EQE350, EQE500, EQS450, EQS580, AMG EQS, 2023 S500, AMG SL55, AMG EQE, 2024 E350, E450, AMG C63e S, CLE300 Coupe, CLE450 Coupe, and GLC300 Coupe vehicles. The 80-Amp fuses may have been manufactured incorrectly, which can cause the fuses to fail.
Remedy
Dealers will replace the main fuse boxes, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed April 16, 2024. Owners may contact MBUSA customer service at 1-800-367-6372.
Notes
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
80-Amp Fuse May FailAn 80-Amp fuse that fails can result in a sudden loss of drive power or a loss of critical safety functions such as the restraint systems or instrument cluster, increasing the risk of a crash or injury. Additionally, there could be an increased risk of a fire.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 24V115000
Manufacturer Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC
Components ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Potential Number of Units Affected 31,848
Summary
Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC (MBUSA) is recalling certain 2023-2024 C300, AMG C43, S580e, S580, Maybach S580, Maybach S680, AMG SL43, AMGSL63, GLC300, EQE350, EQE500, EQS450, EQS580, AMG EQS, 2023 S500, AMG SL55, AMG EQE, 2024 E350, E450, AMG C63e S, CLE300 Coupe, CLE450 Coupe, and GLC300 Coupe vehicles. The 80-Amp fuses may have been manufactured incorrectly, which can cause the fuses to fail.
Remedy
Dealers will replace the main fuse boxes, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed April 16, 2024. Owners may contact MBUSA customer service at 1-800-367-6372.
Notes
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
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Yep. You got that right.
Still driving the Audi S8. Totally happy, no, but not a single issue with reliability. I really hope the Benz facelift is good as it seems. I will check it out. Will I trade off the Audi: no! If the dash is as good as it seems to appear, that will be the game changer as I like the exterior from day one.
Still driving the Audi S8. Totally happy, no, but not a single issue with reliability. I really hope the Benz facelift is good as it seems. I will check it out. Will I trade off the Audi: no! If the dash is as good as it seems to appear, that will be the game changer as I like the exterior from day one.
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This reminds me of an experience my dad had with his '70s Volvo 240 wagon. One day while going down the road, it simply died and left him stranded after coasting to a stop on the side of the road. Turns out it was the fuse for the fuel pump. A single point of failure could leave you stranded by the side of the road or worse. Of course, he did not discover this until it was towed to the shop.
Then I recalled reading a small detail about M-B's of the day, back when their motto was 'Engineered Like No Other Car In The World.' M-B included a mechanical fuel pump in the fuel supply in addition to the electrical pump. Thus, if the electric pump or the fuse failed, the mechanical pump would provide enough fuel pressure to get you to safety.
Of course nowadays you hear the term "limp mode" applied to engines and transmissions that will get you out of a dangerous situation with a reduced capability. So the engineers have considered redundancy and emergency backup situations still.
It looks like M-B is throwing the supplier under the bus on this one, but that still goes back on M-B who should be verifying the supplier's quality control, ISO 9000 and Six-Sigma processes that are in place to make sure substandard components don't make it into the supply chain.
Then I recalled reading a small detail about M-B's of the day, back when their motto was 'Engineered Like No Other Car In The World.' M-B included a mechanical fuel pump in the fuel supply in addition to the electrical pump. Thus, if the electric pump or the fuse failed, the mechanical pump would provide enough fuel pressure to get you to safety.
Of course nowadays you hear the term "limp mode" applied to engines and transmissions that will get you out of a dangerous situation with a reduced capability. So the engineers have considered redundancy and emergency backup situations still.
It looks like M-B is throwing the supplier under the bus on this one, but that still goes back on M-B who should be verifying the supplier's quality control, ISO 9000 and Six-Sigma processes that are in place to make sure substandard components don't make it into the supply chain.
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Yep. You got that right.
Still driving the Audi S8. Totally happy, no, but not a single issue with reliability. I really hope the Benz facelift is good as it seems. I will check it out. Will I trade off the Audi: no! If the dash is as good as it seems to appear, that will be the game changer as I like the exterior from day one.
Still driving the Audi S8. Totally happy, no, but not a single issue with reliability. I really hope the Benz facelift is good as it seems. I will check it out. Will I trade off the Audi: no! If the dash is as good as it seems to appear, that will be the game changer as I like the exterior from day one.
With the stop sale of the W223 and MB themselves saying they are slowing down electrification, hopefully things might get better for MB and for us MB customers.
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Glad you are enjoying you ride, which is the most important thing, spend all that money you want to enjoy your investment. Glad the vehicle is treating you well.
With the stop sale of the W223 and MB themselves saying they are slowing down electrification, hopefully things might get better for MB and for us MB customers.
With the stop sale of the W223 and MB themselves saying they are slowing down electrification, hopefully things might get better for MB and for us MB customers.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
People are saying it might get the super screen from the E-Class, honestly I am one simple man, as long as they put a big slab of wood replacing the piano gloss I am happy. Or if no super screen something like this: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...858bf778e.jpeg
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For some reason IMO, I don't see MB doing the E class screen in the refresh. I feel they can't even fix problems with the current S class - let alone start changing the interior drastically in a refresh but time will tell. I cannot recall an instance (in past) where they changed the dash in a refresh - usually they save such changes for a new model. I will welcome such a change but I am skeptical.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Hmmm, guess it was me wishful thinking then.
I was just saying it's hard for me to believe MB would make a drastic change to the dash but that's only my opinion and not based on any facts.
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Will the refresh with the more integrated E-class appearance cause the prior W223s to go down in value?
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By all accounts the expectation is the 223 will go long; manufacturers are more likely to make changes that are unusually substantial in those situations. You're also not talking about much of a change; it's easy to look at it and see several routes they might take to clean it up with their existing design language that would require relatively minimal change and expense.
I wouldn't be holding my breath but I also don't think it's at all impossible. The excessive black plastic and lack of buttons were called out by executives as known pain points. You don't usually don't see them discuss these kinds of issues unless they plan to do something about them.
I guess we'll see.
I wouldn't be holding my breath but I also don't think it's at all impossible. The excessive black plastic and lack of buttons were called out by executives as known pain points. You don't usually don't see them discuss these kinds of issues unless they plan to do something about them.
I guess we'll see.
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Fair enough, wish our dreams come true then.
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By all accounts the expectation is the 223 will go long; manufacturers are more likely to make changes that are unusually substantial in those situations. You're also not talking about much of a change; it's easy to look at it and see several routes they might take to clean it up with their existing design language that would require relatively minimal change and expense.
I wouldn't be holding my breath but I also don't think it's at all impossible. The excessive black plastic and lack of buttons were called out by executives as known pain points. You don't usually don't see them discuss these kinds of issues unless they plan to do something about them.
I guess we'll see.
I wouldn't be holding my breath but I also don't think it's at all impossible. The excessive black plastic and lack of buttons were called out by executives as known pain points. You don't usually don't see them discuss these kinds of issues unless they plan to do something about them.
I guess we'll see.
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Audi’s were well known for their sleek yet conservative interiors; the interiors often received high praise from the public and media. I saw the new design and my god, what a disaster.
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not sure why they decided to do what MB did which is heavily criticized, didn't VW themselves said they would put more buttons back, why did their "luxury department" went against that?
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I haven't watched any of the unveilings of the Q6 yet. The Q6 is something like 4 years late. It was originally supposed to come out in 2020 or 2021, don't fully remember, but CARIAD, VW's software group could not get their ducks in a row and the software was a disaster, so Audi kept delaying it. Porsche decided not to use CARIAD for the electric Macan. Anything you'll see in the Q6 is basically already 4+ years old now. The current Audi CEO blames the CTO for all of this and wants to oust him. Audi is not doing well these days.
