cblueG

Hi, I am considering a 2024 S63 and had some questions I'd love to get everyone's thoughts on

1. Potentially a stupid q but i need some thoughts here - How different would a S63 be to drive from a G63? I know they are different cars but debating between S63 or a Maybach. I don't want it to feel like a G63 and if it does I'd rather get a Maybach

2. Went to a local dealer and they were asking $15k over market. Are folks seeing these being sold at or below MSRP? Is that realistic to think that they can be sold at MSRP or lower?

3. Does anyone know if the S63 being a plug in be eligible for carpool stickers in california? I don't see it on the CA eligible list yet but curious to know if someone has insights here

SW20S

S63 vs G63...could not possibly be more different lol

sam9187

They are totally 2 different cars and comparison may not be " apples to apples". If we were to compare, a S63 is so much more fun to drive than G63. It's more refined, the exhaust note is better, and is more agile. Both vehicles that are superb in their own right.

Streamliner

My opinion is that G Wagens are uncomfortable and ride like the TRUCKS they are. They make almost zero sense anywhere other than off road, which is where 99% of the buyers will never take them. Where I live, G63’s are literally everywhere. They have become fashion accessories for wealthy soccer moms.

salamigs

I think the OP is trying to compare S63 to Maybach (still two very different vehicles IMHO). OP is using G63 as a relative point that he seems to be familiar with, trying to figure out whether the S63 is closer to G63 or Maybach (I think). Otherwise, a luxury sports sedan to a luxury truck comparison, I too would agree, would not make much sense.

Having said that, I too would like to hear the response to this question from the experienced folks as some other guy who is potentially between the two (although leaning S63). Especially on ride quality differences (suspension etc.).

cblueG

Yes this is right. I am trying to debate between a maybach or a S63. I really like the quietness of the maybach but the S63 is much better to look at and comes in with a plug in hybrid system. The maybach has also announced a plug in but no news if it is going to launch in the US.

Also, any idea on the price here? Dealer in bay area was asking $15k above msrp but seeing there are so many available curious to know what others think

superswiss

You are a bit off-track comparing an S63 to a Maybach. The S63 is an AMG and as such the focus is on performance, not comfort or luxury. Even the hybrid aspect is all about performance. From the suspension to the engine, it's about performance. While still technically an S Class, where it relates to the G63 is that an AMG has inherently increased NVH. The suspension is firmer, noise is higher, road feel etc. everything is higher. There's intentionally less isolation from the outside world. The transmission in the S63 for example is very different from even the G63. The MCT transmission in the S63 doesn't use a torque converter. It uses a wet clutch instead. Similar to a double-clutch transmission. This makes slow speed driving rougher than with a torque converter, but more responsive and provides a feel and feedback more similar to a manual transmission. Again, it's about increased performance and making it more of a driver's car, not comfort. The computer controlled clutch can be jerky at times if you are not on top of your throttle inputs, especially in stop&go traffic and slow speed driving. This transmission is actually better if driven in manual mode most of the time. I drive my AMG in manual mode 90+% of the time. In the W223 S63 things are now assisted by the hybrid system, which itself has a two-speed transmission, which you will feel when it shifts and again it's not about efficiency or electric driving. It's all about performance. There will just be a lot more feedback from the machine under your butt in an AMG. A Maybach is the complete opposite. Its intention is to isolate you even more than the regular S Class.