S_W222

yes, specifically the 40i sucks. Our X5 was the 40i and that was a listen. We switched to M60 since then. The M60 with the V8 in the X5 or X7 with 5 zones AC fixed this issue for good.

S_W222

I agree! That’s what my wife always used to say when she drives my former S-class, as she daily drives a well equipped X5. The S is just different regardless. VERY different… same for the 7 series, they’d never make the SUV just as good and I wish I know why. GLS Maybach is close but it’s overly priced. X7 Alpina is just a tuned X7 M60.

places

We don't have one yet, strongly considering a 2025 X5M60. Should pair well with out new M8 I'll need to check on the AC issue, good to know.

RJC

See here...according to the thread with the poll ~50% of the LCI's MY 24+ have a weak ac issue.
More evidence of a very weak A/C (bimmerpost.com)

2023 X7 with Anemic Air Conditioning (bimmerpost.com)

Tested Two '25 X7's Today 40i/M60 (bimmerpost.com)

S_W222

yeah you definitely need to consider an excellent tint all around (including windshield) to avoid any potential issues. I see a lot of these complaints. Both BMW SUVs I have are tinted with the beest tint I could find on the market, so my feedback isn’t relevant at all even for the V8).

crabman

I don't see that, I have mine on a low fan setting because I don't like fan noise, and it's still easily up to the 90 degree days we've had so far. Air volume at that low setting is roughly equivalent to what I saw in the 580 which I also kept at a low fan setting. Turn the fan up and it gets very loud, too, but there is a lot of air coming through, to me it seems like more than enough to handle things in any weather. But, like I said, Seattle, and 90 aint 110, maybe it does suck there, can't say. Here it seems to work just like every other car I've owned.

I would say that there are a lot of weird settings with BMW. Like being able to have heat coming out of the dash vents even when you're above the set temp and trying to cool the interior. It's possible if you set it up that way, and people will sometimes complain about it not working right when it's doing exactly what its been told in that scenario. It would be too much typing to describe it all, but the other BMW guys will know what I'm talking about. They've made it harder than it should be IMO.

SW20S

Q7 is also really excellent.

crabman

The Q7/Q7 prestige are the same car, just a different trim level. I greatly prefer the Q8 because I don't want a 3 row, and they gave it more room in the second row versus the 7. I'd also say it's the only "coupe" SUV, that isn't a coupe, I find attractive. To me the X6, the GL whatever "coupe" and whichever Cayenne "coupe" you want to mention, look like ***.

On the other hand, the refresh was a bad joke, it did almost nothing to refresh the car, and I think most people couldn't find a difference without reference material. Meanwhile, MMI was never the greatest, is now quite dated, and riding on hardware that is far slower than the current expectation. The base car will get beaten about the head and shoulders by an X5, Even without considering value. Throw value in there and now you're looking at a loaded Q8 for close to 100k with far fewer features, much less performance, and a meaningly higher cost than a loaded X5. The S will get it's buttocks handed to it by the 60i, but in this case the pricing is close enough to set aside, but it's still behind on features. The RS will have sand kicked in its face and see its girl walk off with the X5M. It does have a more compliant ride than the M and might be a better choice for some.

I say this having driven most of the cars mentioned here quite recently.

SW20S

I just meant from a ride and drive compared to a sedan perspective