Returning to S-class. Debating between 2021+ S580 sedan versus 2019+ S560 coupes.
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Returning to S-class. Debating between 2021+ S580 sedan versus 2019+ S560 coupes.
Though different demographics, I'm curious if anyone else ever was in a similar position.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
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Though different demographics, I'm curious if anyone else ever was in a similar position.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
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The '21 and some '22s are known to be pretty problematic. I personally LOVE my '23, but it has had a few minor issues, nothing serious. Except, the 21" blowout issues - I have had several of those but still love this car! So, I would avoid the 2021.
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Though different demographics, I'm curious if anyone else ever was in a similar position.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
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Well mine is very similar situation except with S class sedan vs SUV. I've been in an S class for the past 15 years (2010, 2015 & 2021) before that other MB models and Lexus. I have always been a car person, but wanted to give the SUV class a try for height. I don't need the size of the GLS or the sedan for that matter as it is 95% just me in the car. Long story story short I traded for a 2024 GLE AMG63s 6 months ago and its probably in the top 3 not so good car buying decisions I have made. I am going to say that once you get used (spoiled) to the luxury of the S class sedan, well its extremely hard to drive anything else. It's purely a choice but I prefer luxury over sport. I am looking for new S class sedan now. The GLE AMG63 is an amazing car, don't get me wrong, it is just not an S class. I have looked at the S coupes as well but they don't ride or drive as well as the sedan. They drive, ride and handle amazing but I've just gotten so used to the sedan I want it back. I am sure this didn't help you, but if you give the S class sedan a try you will for sure love it.
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Beautiful car by the way. I have heard stories about the 21" blowout issues so I am looking for 20" like my last car had, it rode perfectly with no issues. I am also looking for one without E Active body control. I have a friend that has a '23 with that option and it has now been in the shop with serious suspension issues. All they can tell her is that it is due to the EABC but they have no clue as to how to remedy it. She is working with them now on the assistant buy back program I asked her if she was going to get another brand and she said absolutely not. She loved MB S class and would not have anything else, That's all she's ever had that I can remember for like 25+ years.
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I have looked at the S coupes as well but they don't ride or drive as well as the sedan. They drive, ride and handle amazing but I've just gotten so used to the sedan I want it back. I am sure this didn't help you, but if you give the S class sedan a try you will for sure love it.
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Well mine is very similar situation except with S class sedan vs SUV. I've been in an S class for the past 15 years (2010, 2015 & 2021) before that other MB models and Lexus. I have always been a car person, but wanted to give the SUV class a try for height. I don't need the size of the GLS or the sedan for that matter as it is 95% just me in the car. Long story story short I traded for a 2024 GLE AMG63s 6 months ago and its probably in the top 3 not so good car buying decisions I have made. I am going to say that once you get used (spoiled) to the luxury of the S class sedan, well its extremely hard to drive anything else. It's purely a choice but I prefer luxury over sport. I am looking for new S class sedan now. The GLE AMG63 is an amazing car, don't get me wrong, it is just not an S class. I have looked at the S coupes as well but they don't ride or drive as well as the sedan. They drive, ride and handle amazing but I've just gotten so used to the sedan I want it back. I am sure this didn't help you, but if you give the S class sedan a try you will for sure love it.
Very likely the experience is still close to a S-Class sedan but with a sportier touch as they think coupe customers would want a slightly more playful vehicle than a sedan? I guess the weight difference also comes to play. Does the vehicle have all the suspension upgrades when you compare both the sedan and coupe?
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I love my 2022 S580. It is highly optioned as also is a 21 GLE63 I have but the GLE is not near as nice as the S580. The 63 is such a different driving experience (gearing, shift points, ride) but the S580 sure isn't any slouch at almost 500hp and quite a bit more comfortable to me plus nicer trim. My 580 has needed a few software updates that were covered under warranty but it is the easiest driving vehicle I have owned. I would even venture to say it is relaxing. I like the fact the sedan doors are smaller than most coupes so to me they open wider IMO in the ever shrinking parking spaces nowadays so entry and exit are easier to me. Sedans don't have the "look" of a coupe I admit but to me it isn't ugly and from the drivers seat it looks great.
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I love my 2022 S580. It is highly optioned as also is a 21 GLE63 I have but the GLE is not near as nice as the S580. The 63 is such a different driving experience (gearing, shift points, ride) but the S580 sure isn't any slouch at almost 500hp and quite a bit more comfortable to me plus nicer trim. My 580 has needed a few software updates that were covered under warranty but it is the easiest driving vehicle I have owned. I would even venture to say it is relaxing. I like the fact the sedan doors are smaller than most coupes so to me they open wider IMO in the ever shrinking parking spaces nowadays so entry and exit are easier to me. Sedans don't have the "look" of a coupe I admit but to me it isn't ugly and from the drivers seat it looks great.
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Well said...I have considered the X7 Alpine so we can tow our 2 motorcycles but the beauty and luxury of this car is tough to change to an SUV. So, we will stick with my wife's SuperDuty (yep, her vehicle of choice!! lol) and she is a tiny woman - but she draws the boys like flies with that lifted and really nice F250!
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Though different demographics, I'm curious if anyone else ever was in a similar position.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
I drive a decent amount for work on suboptimal roads. I enjoy a good powertrain, but I err a bit towards comfort over sport. It would be only my SO and I the majority of the time.
I've owned an S550 coupe (good car, traded only to try different things) and an S63 AMG coupe (hated the suspension and transmission, and traded it because of this).
I miss S-class cars.
Finding a solid 2019+ CPO S560 coupe with all or most of what I want in the same car -- Burmester High-End 3D which was excellent in my S63, HUD, Warmth and Comfort package, acceptable color options, etc -- is difficult. Finding a used 2019+ non-CPO and working out travel and PPI and the rest is logistically difficult.
I've been toying with the idea of trying an S-class sedan for the first time. I've not owned a sedan in forever, as my last many cars have been various German-made coupes or sportbacks. The idea of prioritizing the comfort and quality to that degree, though, with the 2021+ S-class refresh, is intriguing.
Though handsome cars, the lines aren't quite as evocative to me as lighter colors on the S coupes are, nor are they intended to be.
Did anyone else ever weigh the two? If so, what was your decision-making process? Do you have any regrets? Input welcome.
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The S Class coupe is always going to be a bit "crisper" in terms of driving experience - more sporty, a bit louder, a bit firmer suspension. An S Class sedan is going to be softer in every way, but ultimately a similar driving feel overall.
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Yes, they do. I guess I should preface buy saying I know that all three vehicles will preform differently and know that. I guess it just proves that I truly am a sedan luxury guy. We all know none of them will ride the same as they are all three different types of cars. But if I could own all three those would be my picks, get all three driving types and be perfectly satisfied.
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Yes, they do. I guess I should preface buy saying I know that all three vehicles will preform differently and know that. I guess it just proves that I truly am a sedan luxury guy. We all know none of them will ride the same as they are all three different types of cars. But if I could own all three those would be my picks, get all three driving types and be perfectly satisfied.
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Thanks for your input, all. Have spent more time in an S580. No surprise in the difference in plushness there versus what I recall from my S560 coupe which was itself not bad at all (unrelated to the harsh-for-my-liking S63).
No kids. Only SO. Coupe is doable. I enjoyed mine. Sedan is so, so very quality, though.
Feel like:
1. If I buy a coupe, I'll enjoy the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe but miss MBUX / slightly quieter interior / softer ride / technology / "fresher" interior design.
2. If I buy a sedan, I'll enjoy those same things but miss the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe.
Will only be choosing one for now.
A difficult decision. All thoughts and perspectives welcome.
No kids. Only SO. Coupe is doable. I enjoyed mine. Sedan is so, so very quality, though.
Feel like:
1. If I buy a coupe, I'll enjoy the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe but miss MBUX / slightly quieter interior / softer ride / technology / "fresher" interior design.
2. If I buy a sedan, I'll enjoy those same things but miss the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe.
Will only be choosing one for now.
A difficult decision. All thoughts and perspectives welcome.
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Thanks for your input, all. Have spent more time in an S580. No surprise in the difference in plushness there versus what I recall from my S560 coupe which was itself not bad at all (unrelated to the harsh-for-my-liking S63).
No kids. Only SO. Coupe is doable. I enjoyed mine. Sedan is so, so very quality, though.
Feel like:
1. If I buy a coupe, I'll enjoy the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe but miss MBUX / slightly quieter interior / softer ride / technology / "fresher" interior design.
2. If I buy a sedan, I'll enjoy those same things but miss the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe.
Will only be choosing one for now.
A difficult decision. All thoughts and perspectives welcome.
No kids. Only SO. Coupe is doable. I enjoyed mine. Sedan is so, so very quality, though.
Feel like:
1. If I buy a coupe, I'll enjoy the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe but miss MBUX / slightly quieter interior / softer ride / technology / "fresher" interior design.
2. If I buy a sedan, I'll enjoy those same things but miss the aesthetics, relative rarity, and GT nature of the coupe.
Will only be choosing one for now.
A difficult decision. All thoughts and perspectives welcome.
No, you will not miss MBUX so much IMO. MBUX sucks no matter what, but the W222 infotainment sucks even more... soo it's kinda less than ideal in both cases but not much gain with MBUX. Wireless carplay is the only thing I'd personally miss technologically in the W223 vs W222. Other than that, you'll appreciate the screens layout and physical buttons a little more in the coupe (love the dashboard especially with piano black and red leather). I almost bought one a few years ago but ended up in a sedan in the end.
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I'd go with coupe if I were you, assuming those circumstances. The aesthetics of the coupe are just soooo much better, and not to mention that in this case the interior is nicer in the W222. The W223 is the better sedan obviously all around, but if coupe was an option, it's the best out of all these 3 options in my view.
No, you will not miss MBUX so much IMO. MBUX sucks no matter what, but the W222 infotainment sucks even more... soo it's kinda less than ideal in both cases but not much gain with MBUX. Wireless carplay is the only thing I'd personally miss technologically in the W223 vs W222. Other than that, you'll appreciate the screens layout and physical buttons a little more in the coupe (love the dashboard especially with piano black and red leather). I almost bought one a few years ago but ended up in a sedan in the end.
No, you will not miss MBUX so much IMO. MBUX sucks no matter what, but the W222 infotainment sucks even more... soo it's kinda less than ideal in both cases but not much gain with MBUX. Wireless carplay is the only thing I'd personally miss technologically in the W223 vs W222. Other than that, you'll appreciate the screens layout and physical buttons a little more in the coupe (love the dashboard especially with piano black and red leather). I almost bought one a few years ago but ended up in a sedan in the end.
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They’ve advanced enough now that I know 2 brands are super reliable. There weren’t any solid options when I had my W222, but last year I tried one in my GLS before I fixed the issue and that adapter worked like magic (CarlinKit 5th generation, available on Amazon as Prime products)
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Thanks to all providing thoughts and insight. Quite helpful.
Have come across a 2022 S 580 sedan at a little over average mileage -- mid-50s -- but at a competitive price, good color palette, and optioned very well.
While open to a sedan, I do prefer a coupe. But it would have to be: 2019+ CPO, a clean CarFax, under ~60,000 miles or so, with one of the higher-end interior leather options offered, with a HUD, with driver assistance and warmth/comfort packages, and with the Burmester 3-D option that wasn't commonly included.
Suppose it's wrong to feel like I may not reliably come across such a thing in the lower-volume coupe? Have been looking for 1-2 months and hesitant to potentially pass up good sedan options.
Have come across a 2022 S 580 sedan at a little over average mileage -- mid-50s -- but at a competitive price, good color palette, and optioned very well.
While open to a sedan, I do prefer a coupe. But it would have to be: 2019+ CPO, a clean CarFax, under ~60,000 miles or so, with one of the higher-end interior leather options offered, with a HUD, with driver assistance and warmth/comfort packages, and with the Burmester 3-D option that wasn't commonly included.
Suppose it's wrong to feel like I may not reliably come across such a thing in the lower-volume coupe? Have been looking for 1-2 months and hesitant to potentially pass up good sedan options.
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Thanks to all providing thoughts and insight. Quite helpful.
Have come across a 2022 S 580 sedan at a little over average mileage -- mid-50s -- but at a competitive price, good color palette, and optioned very well.
While open to a sedan, I do prefer a coupe. But it would have to be: 2019+ CPO, a clean CarFax, under ~60,000 miles or so, with one of the higher-end interior leather options offered, with a HUD, with driver assistance and warmth/comfort packages, and with the Burmester 3-D option that wasn't commonly included.
Suppose it's wrong to feel like I may not reliably come across such a thing in the lower-volume coupe? Have been looking for 1-2 months and hesitant to potentially pass up good sedan options.
Have come across a 2022 S 580 sedan at a little over average mileage -- mid-50s -- but at a competitive price, good color palette, and optioned very well.
While open to a sedan, I do prefer a coupe. But it would have to be: 2019+ CPO, a clean CarFax, under ~60,000 miles or so, with one of the higher-end interior leather options offered, with a HUD, with driver assistance and warmth/comfort packages, and with the Burmester 3-D option that wasn't commonly included.
Suppose it's wrong to feel like I may not reliably come across such a thing in the lower-volume coupe? Have been looking for 1-2 months and hesitant to potentially pass up good sedan options.
I suppose you can also option magic body control on the coupe?
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They’ve advanced enough now that I know 2 brands are super reliable. There weren’t any solid options when I had my W222, but last year I tried one in my GLS before I fixed the issue and that adapter worked like magic (CarlinKit 5th generation, available on Amazon as Prime products)
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