S-Class (W223) 2021 to Present

The new 2027 S-Class: The Walkaround​

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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 02:07 PM
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They are pretty cool!

How easy was it to add the tweeters?
It's fairly easy for anyone who had taken off a door panel before.
The 4D tweeters are designed to fit right on to the existing 3D tweeter on the sail panel.
Once installed, all it needs is an additional wiring from the existing LED module to the tweeter module box and tucked away in the door panel.
I took the opportunity to sound deaden the door panel to prevent any rattles down the road.

The clips easily break upon removing the door panel, so having some spare clips beforehand would be a good idea.
Otherwise, very straightforward.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 02:28 PM
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I am very happy with this refresh. The car looks fantastic and they have fixed my #1 gripe about the W223, which was the touch sensor controls on the steering wheel.

I think this gives the S a more aggressive look, which I'm totally on board with.

I'm not a fan of lighted grills or emblems, so I am hopeful those can be disabled or left off a build sheet.

I have not spent any time driving the new E class so I don't have an opinion yet on the super screen. I hope it is still easy to reach for touch controls.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 02:47 PM
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The lighted grille can be turned off I'm sure and the lighted hood star is an option.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
The lighted grille can be turned off I'm sure and the lighted hood star is an option.
Or unplug it: youtu.be/Z8nSkFpnTJM?si=hCcQ_UbeGOWnUQtf&t=295
(04:55 mark)

Edit: read it wrong, ignore.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:45 PM
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I like it EXCEPT the sensor plate on the front grille lol
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 09:25 PM
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In general, I feel the front of the car now has more character. It was way too bland before.

I'm sure they messed with how tall they thought the grill should be, and I personally think it should've been just slightly smaller, but that's my preference.

I'm still unsure on the hyperscreen. On one hand, it looks ok, but it just doesn't look luxury at all. On the other hand, the wood look on the pre-fresh looked nice too, although somewhat strange in the angles and overall design of the flow. I still think 222/217 is the best interior and exterior design of all, but I do like the luxurious feel of the rest of the 223 cabin.

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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper98912
In general, I feel the front of the car now has more character. It was way too bland before.

I'm sure they messed with how tall they thought the grill should be, and I personally think it should've been just slightly smaller, but that's my preference.

I'm still unsure on the hyperscreen. On one hand, it looks ok, but it just doesn't look luxury at all. On the other hand, the wood look on the pre-fresh looked nice too, although somewhat strange in the angles and overall design of the flow. I still think 222/217 is the best interior and exterior design of all, but I do like the luxurious feel of the rest of the 223 cabin.
This one, I believe, does “look luxury.” Leave it to the British to preserve traditional styling.


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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper98912
In general, I feel the front of the car now has more character. It was way too bland before.

I'm sure they messed with how tall they thought the grill should be, and I personally think it should've been just slightly smaller, but that's my preference.

I'm still unsure on the hyperscreen. On one hand, it looks ok, but it just doesn't look luxury at all. On the other hand, the wood look on the pre-fresh looked nice too, although somewhat strange in the angles and overall design of the flow. I still think 222/217 is the best interior and exterior design of all, but I do like the luxurious feel of the rest of the 223 cabin.
EXACTLY how I feel word by word.

Originally Posted by Streamliner
This one, I believe, does “look luxury.” Leave it to the British to preserve traditional styling.
Now just imagine if they simply gave the W223 refresh just that horizontal or central screen, and finished the rest up with wood and $50 worth of metal-looking buttons!!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 06:29 AM
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Tried opening DOG attachment but got no images. How do I correct?
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 08:10 AM
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The look isn’t as obnoxious as I thought, other than the gloss black trim on the front. I wonder if that is part of an AMG or “night” package. The star DRL/headlighs look fine to me. The taillights, however, still look tacky and cheap to me like it’s trying too hard, but it’s not a dealbreaker. I actually don’t mind the lighted grill and emblem, especially if I can turn them off.

I also see that 21” wheels return. I wonder if they made a slight sizing change to stave off rampant blowouts. I still wouldn’t get them and stick with 20” wheels.

I’m looking forward to hearing more about the powertrain and other mechanical changes and improvements. I was content with getting another S500, but that entirely new engine intrigues me the same way the entirely new straight-six intrigued me into getting it.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 08:39 AM
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Honestly, that Bentley looks really old compared to this IMO.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 09:16 AM
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I like the illuminated star
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Honestly, that Bentley looks really old compared to this IMO.
I would not call this luxury just because there is wood on the dash, rather it's traditional. Bentley does have very nice wood options and I think some substantial buttons are nice to have but not as many as in a Bentley or RR. I will not beat up Mercedes for having big screens because they have had that 10 years ago and people didn't complain then.

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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 09:21 AM
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Everything doesn't have to be the same. If somebody wants a Bentley, they should get a Bentley. A Mercedes has never been "like a Bentley" inside.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 10:09 AM
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Reference post #9 of this thread, I am unable to see pictures of paint nor wheels of the new release DOG. Help, please.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 10:51 AM
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They aren’t in there yet. That’s jus a draft if the DOG
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by docsout
Reference post #9 of this thread, I am unable to see pictures of paint nor wheels of the new release DOG. Help, please.
The post you are referencing, post #9 says it is an incomplete DOG. It is not official yet and incomplete.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 02:46 PM
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I’m really curious what the MSRP’s will be.

Back in March of 2025, the MSRP for a 2025 were as follows:
  • S500: $117,500
  • S580: $128,600
Today, the MSRP for the 2026 model years are:
  • S500: $119,500 (+1.7%)
  • S580: $130,700 (+1.6%)

Assuming the same incremental change for 2027 would be:
  • S500: $121,532 (+1.7%)
  • S580: $132,791 (+1.6%)
However, since this a refresh, it would not surprise me if they did a larger increase.
  • S500: $121,771 (+1.9%)
  • S580: $133,053 (+1.8%)
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 02:59 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenetic
I’m really curious what the MSRP’s will be.

Back in March of 2025, the MSRP for a 2025 were as follows:
  • S500: $117,500
  • S580: $128,600
Today, the MSRP for the 2026 model years are:
  • S500: $119,500 (+1.7%)
  • S580: $130,700 (+1.6%)

Assuming the same incremental change for 2027 would be:
  • S500: $121,532 (+1.7%)
  • S580: $132,791 (+1.6%)
However, since this a refresh, it would not surprise me if they did a larger increase.
  • S500: $121,771 (+1.9%)
  • S580: $133,053 (+1.8%)
It will be a bigger increase than that because the new one has over $10k in previous options that are not standard. 580 will be over $140k MSRP
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeBlooded
That looks considerably better IMO
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 04:46 PM
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It will be a bigger increase than that because the new one has over $10k in previous options that are not standard. 580 will be over $140k MSRP
I think that’s a huge mistake if they raise the MSRP that much. They should keep the MSRP incrementally the same and option out the same as 2026 imo.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 05:37 PM
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The DOG is already out, all that stuff is standard for sure. They’re not going to give that stuff away for free.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 09:12 PM
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That order guide is a draft. But I guess we’ll see.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 11:25 PM
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I agree with the 140k or so MSRP. With the options standard and the update it seems likely.









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