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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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New S pics...

http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...ercedes/1.html

i love it. with the right wheels to fill the fenderwell it would look mean.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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'05 SL 55 Black/Black w/mods from Eurocharged/Kleemann/BuckheadImports
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the interior is arguably the most high-tech of any car so far .... and much more elegant and fancy than before .. even the key fob is chromed out ... Night Vision will be there also with a display showing in front of the driver on the windshield ... all-new upgraded fully-massaging seats .... Dual DVD Screens with internet access and other cool stuff for the rear passengers ... rear seat massage, heating/cooling/refrigerator ... etc.. etc.. most likely


The S600 V-12 gets slightly more power, going up from 493 to 517 ..... the S65 will go from 604 to atleast 630 or possibly more HP ... the S 550 will have maybe around 388 Horsepower to compete with the 750Li, and it will be finally a good decent 32-Valve DOHC V-8 with variable everything finally. The bottom models will be the S 450 with like around 300 or so horsepower 32-Valve V-8 .. and an S-350 with a 272 horsepower 24 Valve DOHC V-6 ... and the S-400 Diesel with tons of torque ....
Supposedly this all-new S-class will come to the U.S. at the beginning of 2006 .... we'll see ... the all-new CL will come out atleast 6 months after that ....

Pics of all-new 2007 S-Class:

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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we got the mean looking s-class back!

somehow..the interior looks very audi-bmwish...sharp corners...boxy feeling..very different from the current S...have the same feeling as the previous generation S
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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The back looks a little like the BMW but much better looking.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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The back looks a little like the BMW but much better looking.
more like a maybach.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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i just realized. isnt the S500 being changed to an S550?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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God, I can't wait for this E-class lease to be over, which is Jan 2007,

Jumping into the S500 next, love it!
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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oh man those bmw 7 series owners better the picture of the rear end of the new s- ingrained in their heads cause tahts all they gon be seeing. man im only 18 years old and i should be drooling over chicks( i am) but wow this has got me captivated. time to save my money, through college, AND MED SCHOOL!!! oh man, i can only drool right now.................

and mbusa musta actually read all the e-mails peter b sent them about chroming out the key fob, no brainer.........
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The back looks a little like the BMW but much better looking.
Pretty funny, The taillights look very similar to the old 2000-2002 taillights?? Thought they would come out w/something more imaginative maybe borrow some cues from the SLR or anything different, Just another ***-up to add to the growing list of dislikes I'm writing...
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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i'm not sure what i think about that yet...
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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think of this.

A new 2006 lexus IS front head light, with body profile of a LS430 then added rear that is mixed of maybach/old s class tail light. viola, you have the exterior of the new S-class.

Then copy the interior of the 7 series. Down to the gear shift, the I-drive, the book shelf style center console. This is a excellent clone of the 7 series interior.

On top of that, let's throw in the quartz clock from infiniti.

There you have it. The all new S-class.

Totally lack originality.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:56 AM
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Totally lack originality.
i sort of agree with what you said in terms of its ex/in design. i guess the only good thing about the 221 is the new night view camera.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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The interior totally sucks, what's with the odd shaped NAV binnicle? Looks like an after thought. The idrive sucks too. The exterior, I hate the EVO looking flares, doesn't go with luxury.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by krispykrme
think of this.

A new 2006 lexus IS front head light, with body profile of a LS430 then added rear that is mixed of maybach/old s class tail light. viola, you have the exterior of the new S-class.

Then copy the interior of the 7 series. Down to the gear shift, the I-drive, the book shelf style center console. This is a excellent clone of the 7 series interior.

On top of that, let's throw in the quartz clock from infiniti.

There you have it. The all new S-class.

Totally lack originality.
my god man why do you even own a benz. ive never seen more of a self-hating bnz owner then you. its not just here btw but calling the mbz a lexus copy???? you are insane! any educated right minded mbz owner know that lexus are the KINGS of stealing bnz looks. saying the reverse only questions your motives. so a quartz clock is always an infinity? and did infinity make this up? or course not, been around long before infinity was ever a gleem in nissans eye.

back to you though, im just curious. is there anyone on the forum that can vouch for you? ever gone to any meets, drags, etc. id just like to see if a couple people here know you because for having so many bnzs, extolling the virtues of the m5 whereever you can, mostly trashing mbzs it just doenst add up. so help me out so i can take your posts seriously again.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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my god man why do you even own a benz. ive never seen more of a self-hating bnz owner then you. its not just here btw but calling the mbz a lexus copy???? you are insane! any educated right minded mbz owner know that lexus are the KINGS of stealing bnz looks. saying the reverse only questions your motives. so a quartz clock is always an infinity? and did infinity make this up? or course not, been around long before infinity was ever a gleem in nissans eye.

back to you though, im just curious. is there anyone on the forum that can vouch for you? ever gone to any meets, drags, etc. id just like to see if a couple people here know you because for having so many bnzs, extolling the virtues of the m5 whereever you can, mostly trashing mbzs it just doenst add up. so help me out so i can take your posts seriously again.
I am just calling what i saw.

The side profile is a direct copy of LS430. Looking from A-pillar to the C-pillar it is a carbon copy of LS430 same with the head light.

Yes, lexus has been copying the S-class for a long time. But it does not mean that MB is not copying either.

My motive is simple. Simply dicussing a good copy that MB has done. For a 100k+ sedan i expected more. Quartz clock on the center console for high end automobile was put back by infiniti since it was launched with Q45.

I went to one meet in bay area last year. don't like to hang out with the MB crowd. I am however, a very well known member on bimmerfest. Actually several guys from BMW forum has took my E55 out for a spin.

I think you need professional help. I have never seen such an ego attached to a brand of car. This is a car. As long as MBZ is now feverish copying other manuf, it deserved to be criticized.

I find it so amusing that DCX would took out a huge ad and attack BMW on virtue of I-drive only to copy it on its flag ship sedan.

What else would you like to know? I will slam on something when it is the truth. The S-class is a copy of other manuf. Just stating the simple truth.

Unless you can point out that DCX came up with the I-drive, the column shift, and the book shelf console instead of BMW. My comment stands.

Get a life. This is a car not a show of your ego.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Krispykreme,there is nothing exciting,original about this car.
Boring,Lexus like exterior,and that God awfull BMW interior that gives me the creeps.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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The new 750Li sure looks hot right about now.

I mean, geez could they have copied the 7 series interior any closer? The exterior, I wouldn't go as far as saying LS430ish but Krispy has a very good point. I was actually excited about the upcoming S class, so much for that. I could care less about the power in the upcoming AMG if it's basically a body kit and exhaust....dissapointing indeed. After the CL55, I decided to stop chasing "motor" and try for the total package, cuz my Lexus GS300 handles better than the CL55 (I know, 2 totally different market target). Too bad the M5 is ugglier than my dog's dropping, I hope the RS6 will be something to look for, otherwise I guess sit bored bit longer and I am BORED out of my mind in my GS300 AWD (cool gadgets though)

All jokes aside, maybe the S Class will be more appealing in person.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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I am just calling what i saw.

The side profile is a direct copy of LS430. Looking from A-pillar to the C-pillar it is a carbon copy of LS430 same with the head light.

Yes, lexus has been copying the S-class for a long time. But it does not mean that MB is not copying either.

My motive is simple. Simply dicussing a good copy that MB has done. For a 100k+ sedan i expected more. Quartz clock on the center console for high end automobile was put back by infiniti since it was launched with Q45.

I went to one meet in bay area last year. don't like to hang out with the MB crowd. I am however, a very well known member on bimmerfest. Actually several guys from BMW forum has took my E55 out for a spin.

I think you need professional help. I have never seen such an ego attached to a brand of car. This is a car. As long as MBZ is now feverish copying other manuf, it deserved to be criticized.

I find it so amusing that DCX would took out a huge ad and attack BMW on virtue of I-drive only to copy it on its flag ship sedan.

What else would you like to know? I will slam on something when it is the truth. The S-class is a copy of other manuf. Just stating the simple truth.

Unless you can point out that DCX came up with the I-drive, the column shift, and the book shelf console instead of BMW. My comment stands.

Get a life. This is a car not a show of your ego.
If you hate DCX so much, why the hell do you own five or six DCX products??? Just curious nothing more.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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notice the quartz clock in the middle of the dash of this 1939 mbz jackass. the screen pod cures what some people have criticized (which im sure you have too) about the low placement of the comand screen, now its gauge level. ive owned 35ish cars in my 35 year old life and only 2 mbzs, so im not a mbz or nothing loyalist. i just see your posts and read your history and they are of a self hating bnz owner. so why do you have 3 bnzs anyway?

as far as the ls i think the pics speak for themselves. the clock comments is the killer though. you simply throw in an obvious cheap shot when it took me exactly 10 sec to find this in google.

by the way, my moms departed 76' 230 had a quartz clock too.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/1930-19...-1600x1200.htm
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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man all dose haters out there, peter stay strong.



JUST WAIT FOR THE AMG VERSION bizatches



with the fender flares that car is gonna look sikk
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notice the quartz clock in the middle of the dash of this 1939 mbz jackass. the screen pod cures what some people have criticized (which im sure you have too) about the low placement of the comand screen, now its gauge level. ive owned 35ish cars in my 35 year old life and only 2 mbzs, so im not a mbz or nothing loyalist. i just see your posts and read your history and they are of a self hating bnz owner. so why do you have 3 bnzs anyway?

as far as the ls i think the pics speak for themselves. the clock comments is the killer though. you simply throw in an obvious cheap shot when it took me exactly 10 sec to find this in google.

by the way, my moms departed 76' 230 had a quartz clock too.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/1930-19...-1600x1200.htm
Cheap shot? You are talking about 1939 when there are no digital clock available. I said it clearly. The idea of putting the quartz clock back on high end luxury car started with 1989 Q45. Show me where the quartz clock still exist in the center console of any MBZ from that ERA. NONE!

The idea of putting the screen level and use I-drive did not oriented from MB, it started with a company called BMW. My shot at DCX was about face it has done since it took out a huge ad to diss the I-drive only to come back to use a version of it. Also to copy the shift column in the same fashion. This shows lack of originality. Toyota has been incorporating screen at gauge level, at least they did not come up with I-drive (yet), nor did they come up with a carbon copy of shift column. Toyota has been know to copy designs and improve them. But you are talking about a carbon copy that S-class pulled.

Self hating? No, I don't hate DCX product. I don't like some aspec of DCX design just same thing I don't like some aspect of BMW design either. Heck, I just recently criticized E60 on e60.net.

There is no perfect car. I am not going to sit here and tell everyone that my cars are king of the earth when it is not. My family is a big MB family except me. I do have 4 DCX product right now. I am not sure why do i need to explain this constantly.

E55 was bought because a co-worker of my bought a RS6. Need something faster to shut him up.

E500 was a settelment between me and my dealer.

CLK320 is my wife's car.

G55 is my 4x4 that i use to go up to tahoe.

I am happy with G55 as there is nothing outthere that is better. The E55 was not what I expect it to be. The other two i can really careless. Although my E500 has been a pleasant suprise.

This is way off topic.

I will still say this. The new s-class copied way too much from other car. Someone else said it to. The EVO like fender. I did not picked that up, but that was a good shot.
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1989 420sel from ebay, found in 3 minutes. took less time to find than you to write the first sentence. youd wrather bash than see for yourself, thats MY point. this is too easy.

as far as i drive. i, personally, have not seen 1 positive review in any mag i get. the best i see is that its less annoying, now thats a rave review. as far as the new s, im sure theyll let us know how it works, good or bad. and fender flares, they were prominent on the 190 evolution in 1990, before the evo was here with theirs, so i guess another mb originality. so since ive nuked all you comparisons (they dont look alike from a to c pillar at all as the pics show as well as the headlights) maybe a genuine review should have been: i love bmw but for some reason i own 4 bnzs yet no one can vouche for me and i hate the new s too. at least YOU should be original and genuine.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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I usually don't get involved in these type of discussions, but to say that MB copied the LS is ridiculous.

Everybody knows that the current LS is a direct copy of the W140. The whole side profile all the way down to the wheels is a W140 rip off.
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1989 420sel from ebay, found in 3 minutes. took less time to find than you to write the first sentence. youd wrather bash than see for yourself, thats MY point. this is too easy.

as far as i drive. i, personally, have not seen 1 positive review in any mag i get. the best i see is that its less annoying, now thats a rave review. as far as the new s, im sure theyll let us know how it works, good or bad. and fender flares, they were prominent on the 190 evolution in 1990, before the evo was here with theirs, so i guess another mb originality. so since ive nuked all you comparisons (they dont look alike from a to c pillar at all as the pics show as well as the headlights) maybe a genuine review should have been: i love bmw but for some reason i own 4 bnzs yet no one can vouche for me and i hate the new s too. at least YOU should be original and genuine.

What heck are you talking about?

Where is the new S-class quartz clock? Where is the clock in our current MB?

The clock are currently in the instrument panel area. Not seperated out like it is on the dead center in the console. That idea came from infiniti back in 1989. Sample as that.

too easy? you can't even do anything right to counter.

Like I said, show me a late 1980 to current mercedes that has a quartz clock in the center console area. MB has embedded the clock in the instrument panel for a long time. Everyone knows that. But it has never seperate it out like it did with new s-class. SIMPLE AS THAT.

NUKE WHAT? You have come back with nothing, including the clock. Like i said, the clock in the center area is not mercedes design, it was a direct copy from 1989 Q45. So einstein, please go back to drawing board and come back with something that works. THERE IS NO CLOCK IN THE CENTER AREA. HOW MANY TIME DO I NEED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU.

Unless you don't drive your MB, you should know that the clocks has always been inside the instrument panel. But this is not what new S-class have.

FYI, Lancer Evolution although was exported late into other part of world, has been around since early 90. By no means MB 190 Evolution is the 1st car manuf with fender flare. The lancer evolution was a 1992 model, which replaced Galant VR-4 which has been around since late 80 with fender flare.

I would suggest you take some time to do some research before coming up with garbage after garbage.

1. Show me a late 80 MB that has quartz clock in the center dash not embedded in the instrument panel. Or are you going to pull a chicken on me?

2. Show me any MB product that came up with that column shift before BMW did.

3. Show me MB's i-drive car before BMW come up with their version.

Whether or not MB's i-drive is more user friendly or not. This is not their original concept. PERIOD. I find DCX to be poor taste after campaign heavily against I-drive only to copy it and make it own several years later.
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I don't like it. Those flares still are way too much for me and make the car look cheap as hell. Yeah...looks like we're getting iDrive but theres no way it could be worse than BMW's so whatever. The worst part though...the key! Look at that thing - its a little ball of chrome...(Peter )I'm definitely not liking that either. I think all designers are going downhill these days. Everything looks too futuristic.
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