sorry guys i didnt read the whole of that list it seems that i was wrong in a BIG way sorry for the wrong info
No S63 guys
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No S63 guys
No S63 guys check this out from emercedesbenz.com
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...007Pricing.jpg
S55 kompressor will stay on for a while
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...007Pricing.jpg
S55 kompressor will stay on for a while
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No E63 AMG either ha, it didn`t make that list either but we have the press release! That list is short. I don`t even see the CLK63.
Btw the S63 is supposed to debut in January 2007 as a 2008 model
so it wouldn`t be on a 2007 list. Time will tell us.
Btw the S63 is supposed to debut in January 2007 as a 2008 model
so it wouldn`t be on a 2007 list. Time will tell us.
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Why am I not surprised?
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
Why am I not surprised?
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
That and the fact that at 514hp and "only" 465lb-ft of torque the cars would be slower than the old 493hp/516lb-ft cars. I suspect the S63, CL63 and eventually S63 will have 571hp and 620lb-ft of torque. Should provide a scathing performance, but those numbers mean the 5-speed auto doesn't get to retire yet!
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
There's nothing wrong with the 5-speed.
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Originally Posted by Lov2xlr8
here is a Launch Schedule for the new AMGs.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...aunch-schedule
http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...aunch-schedule
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....5&postcount=34
But it doesn't say anything about a S63 which is not planned for 2006, but 2007.
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
Why am I not surprised?
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
PS. This poster drives mostly S or ML.
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang
However, there's a precedent of sharing essentially the same AMG engine between S and ML: between 01-02 W220 S55 and 00-03 W163 ML55.
If trademarks are a indication, look for a TT version of the 6.3 to be dubbed the 69... as in SL69, CL69, and S69...
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
its just missing 2 gears when stacked up to an M5 or 6.3L AMG. Give MB time to make the 7g work with the higher tq cars and things will be just fine.
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
Why am I not surprised?
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
I personally don't see the N/A 6.3 making its way into the AMG versions of the CL, SL, or S class. A TT version of the 6.3 yes, but I just don't see how MB can plan to drop that engine into a $120K+ car when the same exact power plant can be found in a ML.
~ Ian
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
You don't need 7 gears if you have the torque. The transmission in my 600 is like butter.
Its like saying that a E55 works fine with a 2.65 rear end ratio but an SL55's 2.82 will make the E55 faster, more reponsive, and more sporty. Better gearing always makes a car respond better regardless of the amount of torque.
Yes a small V6 powered car will benefit more from a 7g transmission because it has less power to work with and it makes up for that lack of power with gearing. But give that powerful car better gearing (7g) and it to will be a quicker vehicle.
So put 7 speeds into a gearbox that can deal with the tq created by these large AMG V8k and bi-turbo 12's and the cars will be more fun to drive, shift more smoothly, have quicker downshifts, and in they end they will be better cars.
Old things work well but progression is the name of the game. Not stagnation.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Granted a mb 5 speed is tried and true but that does not mean a 7 speed wont offer a more dynamic feel.
Its like saying that a E55 works fine with a 2.65 rear end ratio but an SL55's 2.82 will make the E55 faster, more reponsive, and more sporty. Better gearing always makes a car respond better regardless of the amount of torque.
Yes a small V6 powered car will benefit more from a 7g transmission because it has less power to work with and it makes up for that lack of power with gearing. But give that powerful car better gearing (7g) and it to will be a quicker vehicle.
So put 7 speeds into a gearbox that can deal with the tq created by these large AMG V8k and bi-turbo 12's and the cars will be more fun to drive, shift more smoothly, have quicker downshifts, and in they end they will be better cars.
Old things work well but progression is the name of the game. Not stagnation.
Its like saying that a E55 works fine with a 2.65 rear end ratio but an SL55's 2.82 will make the E55 faster, more reponsive, and more sporty. Better gearing always makes a car respond better regardless of the amount of torque.
Yes a small V6 powered car will benefit more from a 7g transmission because it has less power to work with and it makes up for that lack of power with gearing. But give that powerful car better gearing (7g) and it to will be a quicker vehicle.
So put 7 speeds into a gearbox that can deal with the tq created by these large AMG V8k and bi-turbo 12's and the cars will be more fun to drive, shift more smoothly, have quicker downshifts, and in they end they will be better cars.
Old things work well but progression is the name of the game. Not stagnation.
I stand by my assertion that the 55K, 600 and 65 would not benefit as much from the 7 speed as the lower torque engines. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
