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Old 02-02-2007, 10:50 PM
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S65 or S63?

I'm confused, are the 2007 S classes 63 amg or 65 amg? I swear I saw s63 on the mb website and then changed to s65.

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Originally Posted by AMGF1
I'm confused, are the 2007 S classes 63 amg or 65 amg? I swear I saw s63 on the mb website and then changed to s65.

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They are 2 different models. S65 is twin-turbocarged V12. S63 is Naturally Aspirated(no supercharger) V8.
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Originally Posted by SteveFox
They are 2 different models. S65 is twin-turbocarged V12. S63 is Naturally Aspirated(no supercharger) V8.
Same looks, similar performance and a lot of $$$ different!

But an S63 is not a V12 TT!
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if i *could* afford it id go for the S65... but the S63 could suit me just fine
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Originally Posted by //AMG55lover
Same looks, similar performance and a lot of $$$ different!

But an S63 is not a V12 TT!
Performance is not even close......
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I don't know if I could swallow the depriciation of the S65.
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Originally Posted by absent
Performance is not even close......
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I don't know if I could swallow the depriciation of the S65.
Then don't...........just buy a car that is 2-model-years-old, let the original owner eat that first 2 seasons of depreciation..........

(Saved me 37K on my 05,-55 w/4K miles...)

Just be patient.........
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Did the same in the case of my 05 S600 Sport. Saved $55K from original sticked for the car, although buying from a friend helped matters.
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Does anyone know what MSRP will be for the 2008 S63.

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Price delta between CLS 550 and 63 is about 25k. That's prolly going to be the ball park for the S63.
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2005 E55, 1959 220s Cabriolet, some other stuff too...
Whatever you may decide on, wait 18 months to buy and save yourself $100k!
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Performance difference

I am not too sure about that..
Especially 0-62mph time is very close (0,2 sec difference - too much torque, too little traction). The S65 is in my eyes way too overpriced. But good for you if do not have to care about the price difference. The engine sound of 65s is in a different league, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by absent
Performance is not even close......
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Traction is not the problem for an S65 that it is for an SL65. A little care in first and then floor it and keep it floored. It digs fine, no ESP.

Throttle response is immediate at any speed, any revs. 738 ft-lbs from 2000-4000 rpm and over 500 ft-lbs from 1000 rpm to redline delivers a unique driving experience.

It is not a subtle difference from any other engine in the stable. You may not need this level of performance or think the cost is justifiable, but no other S-class model is close.
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Originally Posted by michal12
I am not too sure about that..
Especially 0-62mph time is very close (0,2 sec difference - too much torque, too little traction). The S65 is in my eyes way too overpriced. But good for you if do not have to care about the price difference. The engine sound of 65s is in a different league, that's for sure.
It is overpriced unless money is no concern whatsoever but that helps make the 65 one of the best value low mileage models on the market.

While 0-62 may be close the difference on the highway would be very noticeable. There is nothing quicker on a roll save for genuine exoctics like the Veyron and Carrera GT which is remarkable considering you could be travelling five-up with a trunkfull of bags.

However, as regards engine sound, you are incorect imo. The 55 and 63 models sound better as the turbos on the 65 make it sound a little muted considering the performance it has. To be honest though, when you have over 600bhp engine I don't think too may owners wil care about that
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Chances are the 0-60 difference is greater than .2 sec. In addition, this difference is such a small part in the difference between the two models. I agree that it is very hard to swallow the price premium of the S65--it is at least $20k too expensive. I would not consider the v8 AMG S-class when a CLS with the same engine is available and is even quicker (or E for that matter). I believe Car and Driver makes the same point.

We can discuss this ad-nauseum and still each of us will retain their opinion. If you love V12s, the S63 is not even an option under consideration. If you like the S, like the AMG trickery, and do not care for cylinder count, the S63 will still be faster than most.
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Originally Posted by michal12
I am not too sure about that..
Especially 0-62mph time is very close (0,2 sec difference - too much torque, too little traction). The S65 is in my eyes way too overpriced. But good for you if do not have to care about the price difference. The engine sound of 65s is in a different league, that's for sure.
0-62 is not an important performance benchmark anymore.
If so,then Veyron would be barely 0.3sec faster then let's say LP640 or 997 TT when using this favorite comparison tool of Highschool kids.
Compare 1/4 mile,0-125 etc and we are talking totally different league....
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Originally Posted by absent
0-62 is not an important performance benchmark anymore.
If so,then Veyron would be barely 0.3sec faster then let's say LP640 or 997 TT when using this favorite comparison tool of Highschool kids.
Compare 1/4 mile,0-125 etc and we are talking totally different league....
Ditto

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