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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Huge Price Increase on MY08 S65

My dealer in Los Angeles told me that MBUSA is increasing the MSRP on the new arriving S65's from 190K to 198K. This was due to the weak US dollar.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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That's rediculous. Be prepared for the car to lose 50% of its value in 1-2 years. For example, there is a 2006 S65 for sale on ebay right now for 99,000$ and a like-new 2007 (new body) for 150,000$. New body S65's will be low 100k's next year... I can't see why anyone would buy new with this crazy depreciation.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
That's rediculous. Be prepared for the car to lose 50% of its value in 1-2 years. For example, there is a 2006 S65 for sale on ebay right now for 99,000$ and a like-new 2007 (new body) for 150,000$. New body S65's will be low 100k's next year... I can't see why anyone would buy new with this crazy depreciation.
You are right. But people with crazy money don't really care. They know what they want and get what they want.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
That's rediculous. Be prepared for the car to lose 50% of its value in 1-2 years. For example, there is a 2006 S65 for sale on ebay right now for 99,000$ and a like-new 2007 (new body) for 150,000$. New body S65's will be low 100k's next year... I can't see why anyone would buy new with this crazy depreciation.
there is an 07 S65 on ebay for 129k
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
there is an 07 S65 on ebay for 129k
Oh yeah.. I didn't see that one! That's close to 70,000$ depreciation in less than a year! At low $100k, S65 has to be the best sedan for the money by far!
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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there is an 07 S65 on ebay for 129k
But it's blue. NO one wants blue.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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These 12 cylinder engines are infamous for depreciating...fast...
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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If its a blue one in CA it may have been wrecked. I ahd a friend of mine looking at one and the dealer let someone test drive it and they had an accident with it. They paid 140 something at the auction or the car.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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But it's blue. NO one wants blue.
lol i'd take a blue one
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Only partially true...

Loaded '07 S65 stickered for some $3K more than loaded '08 S65 at start of MY08 (AMG actually reduced prices on a tough-to-sell car).....so new, nominal '08 MSRP increase is perhaps $4-5K over new '07s....

Prob 90% of new S65s in major mkts are sold via $0 down, 2-3 yr leases anyway....not many financially astute guys like putting any upfront cash into a depreciating/at-physical-risk object such as any car (opportunity cost of capital); like advantages of lease-gap insurance; and like having MB Credit as car-owning entity in event of any liability situation.....

Most buyers of new S65s are reasonably intelligent; know S65 costs $100K in one-yr deprec (vs $50K in one-yr deprec for S63/600 and $30K one-yr deprec for S550)...and make their choices based upon own set of values....the incremental $50K in deprec over 63/600 may be trivial to many, esp if they enjoy value of more tq/higher-grade leather.....or absurd to some....know some rather affluent, jaded guys who get a new SL55/CL63 every yr; and view 65 as inferior from an overall engineering/dynamics perspective.....and others who get new 65 every yr.....personal preference....

Also, would suspect, given no. of new, unsold S/CL63/65 sitting at dealers in US, that discts from MSRP and poss cheaper lease terms will make today's new '08 S65 lease cheaper than lease of a new '07 S65 was some 15mos ago (at launch).....MSRP's don't mean much in real-world of supply/demand; a slowing US economy; and cooler, non-AMG weather arriving in NYC/Chicago, etc (and rains in CA).....
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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That's OK, I still won't be able to afford one...

The depreciation is crazy, and when it comes to this kind of money (for me) I'd rather buy a year or two old, have someone else pay for the depreciation, and still be under warranty. Besides, I wanna keep mine and mod it, I can do (actually I HAVE to do!) without the latest and greatest, but I definitely understand those that do need to have that, no matter what the cost...
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Originally Posted by juicee63
there is an 07 S65 on ebay for 129k

it was lemonized!
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Originally Posted by usctrojans1
My dealer in Los Angeles told me that MBUSA is increasing the MSRP on the new arriving S65's from 190K to 198K. This was due to the weak US dollar.
The reason for that might be the fact that they basically include all options as standard features, as it is on the S600.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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What are the facts behind the increase?

FloridaE55:
Is your supposition based on insider MB knowledge or a wild guess on your part? Up to now, the '07/'08 S65 did not include as standard all-the-options, quite different from the 'all-in' '07/'08 S600. Personally, I think that the idea to 'include-as-standard-all-options' is excellent for the S600 and equally valid for the top of the line AMG S65. In the long run, it will help resales & residuals of these vehicles and insure that the top S class vehicles are known for all of the innovative technology which MB is bringing out for their vehicles. Autotrader has approx. 22 '08 S65s listed and some of these are priced at MSRP below the $198K price point we are talking about in this thread. If we can get confirmation of the reason for this price increase (if true) in future '08 S65s from a person that works for MBNA or a MB dealer it would be helpful to our Forum members. Z356
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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I never did understand why MB chose to strip the 65 of standard features on the 600, and of course at 40-50k higher price. Yeah, now 07s are getting into the low 100s, and it will continue to drop. When MB FINALLY gets around to releasing a new dohc/4 valve/cyl. V12, they'll take an even bigger hit.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Z356
FloridaE55:
Is your supposition based on insider MB knowledge or a wild guess on your part? Up to now, the '07/'08 S65 did not include as standard all-the-options, quite different from the 'all-in' '07/'08 S600. Personally, I think that the idea to 'include-as-standard-all-options' is excellent for the S600 and equally valid for the top of the line AMG S65. In the long run, it will help resales & residuals of these vehicles and insure that the top S class vehicles are known for all of the innovative technology which MB is bringing out for their vehicles. Autotrader has approx. 22 '08 S65s listed and some of these are priced at MSRP below the $198K price point we are talking about in this thread. If we can get confirmation of the reason for this price increase (if true) in future '08 S65s from a person that works for MBNA or a MB dealer it would be helpful to our Forum members. Z356
The new price ($194,775+$3,000 gas guzzler tax) and fully-loaded configuration has been on the mbusa site for at least a month.

http://www.mbusa.com/models/body-sty...ighPerformance
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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lol i'd take a blue one
i believe black doesnt lost value as other colors
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