Just got a Majestic Black S63
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F10 M5, 08 S63 Majestic Black Metallic, 09 CLK63, silver
Just got a Majestic Black S63
I got it 2 days ago, still have my 750Li, will return to dealer next month, S63 is 400 miles now, when i went out with my friend last night, he played around the buttons, might pushed the C/M/S, changed to M, so when I stopped at red light, then go when green, the speed was at 35 -40 mph, then I got a message: 1 UP, it's red color, then I noticed rpm was at 7000! I pushed C/M/S, back to S, rpm dropped to 2000,
I remember it was about 20 seconds long while it stayed at 7000, should I worry about the damage? I think it shouldn't be over 4500 rpm before 1000 miles break-in, thanks for any advice.
I remember it was about 20 seconds long while it stayed at 7000, should I worry about the damage? I think it shouldn't be over 4500 rpm before 1000 miles break-in, thanks for any advice.
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I got it 2 days ago, still have my 750Li, will return to dealer next month, S63 is 400 miles now, when i went out with my friend last night, he played around the buttons, might pushed the C/M/S, changed to M, so when I stopped at red light, then go when green, the speed was at 35 -40 mph, then I got a message: 1 UP, it's red color, then I noticed rpm was at 7000! I pushed C/M/S, back to S, rpm dropped to 2000,
I remember it was about 20 seconds long while it stayed at 7000, should I worry about the damage? I think it shouldn't be over 4500 rpm before 1000 miles break-in, thanks for any advice.
I remember it was about 20 seconds long while it stayed at 7000, should I worry about the damage? I think it shouldn't be over 4500 rpm before 1000 miles break-in, thanks for any advice.
Even though you are nto done with your break in, I doubt you will have any issues. They have so many safe guards to keep you from blowing up the engine it is not even funny!
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F10 M5, 08 S63 Majestic Black Metallic, 09 CLK63, silver
It's very quiet, a little quieter than my 750Li, but I feel the steering is a little light at highway speed compare to 750, is there a way to tight it up? or can MB dealer tight it a bit via their software? really like the 750 steering feel at highway speed.
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KUNMB: Great looking color for an S63! I hope someone in this Forum, especially one of the Tuner Sponsors, can give you an answer on 'tightening up' the S63's steering. I also come from the BMW side of the ledger (previously had an '04 745i Sport and now a '07 650i Vert) and the traditional & legendary BMW/Porsche 'tight' steering feel seems to be missing from the 221 S cars I have test driven so far, including the '08 AMG S63! In my opinion, too much Servotronic Power Assist. My 650 has the new Active Steering and it also feels a little bit over-boosted at lower speeds. But the Mercedes light steering feel is considerably more pronounced, even when massaged by AMG on its sporty S63! Is there any solutions to this perceived 'problem'? Z356.
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I got it 2 days ago, still have my 750Li, will return to dealer next month, S63 is 400 miles now, when i went out with my friend last night, he played around the buttons, might pushed the C/M/S, changed to M, so when I stopped at red light, then go when green, the speed was at 35 -40 mph, then I got a message: 1 UP, it's red color, then I noticed rpm was at 7000! I pushed C/M/S, back to S, rpm dropped to 2000,
I remember it was about 20 seconds long while it stayed at 7000, should I worry about the damage? I think it shouldn't be over 4500 rpm before 1000 miles break-in, thanks for any advice.
I remember it was about 20 seconds long while it stayed at 7000, should I worry about the damage? I think it shouldn't be over 4500 rpm before 1000 miles break-in, thanks for any advice.
thanks in advance.
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F10 M5, 08 S63 Majestic Black Metallic, 09 CLK63, silver
I got it 9k off, paid off at once, their lease money fact was too high, my score is 780, they want 0.0400, my 2006 BMW 750Li lease were much lower at 0.027, my 2007 M6 was 0.0275, the S63 lease payment will be higher than 750Li + M6, haha, I won't lease any AMG, other models maybe better deal, like S550 is at 0.0330, still higher than BMW.
I had a Lexus LS, still have the SC430, their steerings were lose too, but after I tighted the steering preload, it feels much tighter, close to BMW, don't know if S63 has the preload adjustment, but BMWs don't have the adjustment.
I had a Lexus LS, still have the SC430, their steerings were lose too, but after I tighted the steering preload, it feels much tighter, close to BMW, don't know if S63 has the preload adjustment, but BMWs don't have the adjustment.
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From: Upstate NY, Ponte Vedra FL
SL55, Cayenne S, Tundra, 360 spider
I got it 9k off, paid off at once, their lease money fact was too high, my score is 780, they want 0.0400, my 2006 BMW 750Li lease were much lower at 0.027, my 2007 M6 was 0.0275, the S63 lease payment will be higher than 750Li + M6, haha, I won't lease any AMG, other models maybe better deal, like S550 is at 0.0330, still higher than BMW.
I had a Lexus LS, still have the SC430, their steerings were lose too, but after I tight the steering preload, it feels much tighter, close to BMW, don't know if S63 has the preload adjustment, but BMWs are without the adjustment.
I had a Lexus LS, still have the SC430, their steerings were lose too, but after I tight the steering preload, it feels much tighter, close to BMW, don't know if S63 has the preload adjustment, but BMWs are without the adjustment.
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Congrats....maj blk is looking great
Re: steering issue.....presume you're driving car in Sport mode and tire P's are to-spec....may want to drive a few hundred mis to better eval steering/chassis balance/damping vs bumpy/hilly high-speed fwys/mtn twisties/routine urban driving.....
As an avg amateur driver, would argue overall steering/chassis precision/damping of CL63 is superior/more confidence-inspiring vs that of the excellent 997TT (had previously commuted via 997TT some 3K mis....and, prior to that, 996TTS some 15K mis) on many stretches of typical urban fwys....
Steering/chassis calibrations are obviously a series of trade-offs vs varying real-world roads/driver preferences (some stuff that works marvelously on a dry, smooth private track is suboptimal on real-world roads).....IMO, AMG has engineered world's most brilliantly-balanced car for dynamic daily/wkend driving vs CA pavement conditions.....but would be curious if your impressions change after 500mis or so....have driven CL63 some 8K mis to-date and actually, over time, have become more impressed w/overall chassis balance than after my initial excellent impressions....
Re: steering issue.....presume you're driving car in Sport mode and tire P's are to-spec....may want to drive a few hundred mis to better eval steering/chassis balance/damping vs bumpy/hilly high-speed fwys/mtn twisties/routine urban driving.....
As an avg amateur driver, would argue overall steering/chassis precision/damping of CL63 is superior/more confidence-inspiring vs that of the excellent 997TT (had previously commuted via 997TT some 3K mis....and, prior to that, 996TTS some 15K mis) on many stretches of typical urban fwys....
Steering/chassis calibrations are obviously a series of trade-offs vs varying real-world roads/driver preferences (some stuff that works marvelously on a dry, smooth private track is suboptimal on real-world roads).....IMO, AMG has engineered world's most brilliantly-balanced car for dynamic daily/wkend driving vs CA pavement conditions.....but would be curious if your impressions change after 500mis or so....have driven CL63 some 8K mis to-date and actually, over time, have become more impressed w/overall chassis balance than after my initial excellent impressions....
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Another thought re: steering....
My perception of 63's "light" steering feel is driven by the lightness of the 63 motor over the wheels....e.g., whenever I drive an S/CL 600/65, I immediately sense the heaviness of the 250lb heavier V12 motor over the wheels and its (IMO negative) impact on steering feel...
Perhaps some of us are mixing up heaviness/lightness vs overall steering precision and/or immediate-off-center steering precision....
Also, IIRC, S/CL have a variable-ratio steering setup (similar to 997TT's...and unlike 996TTS), which, if true, requires some mental calibration to adjust to its nonlinear nuances....e.g., I believe Ferrari 599/Scud still have the linear steering setup....
My perception of 63's "light" steering feel is driven by the lightness of the 63 motor over the wheels....e.g., whenever I drive an S/CL 600/65, I immediately sense the heaviness of the 250lb heavier V12 motor over the wheels and its (IMO negative) impact on steering feel...
Perhaps some of us are mixing up heaviness/lightness vs overall steering precision and/or immediate-off-center steering precision....
Also, IIRC, S/CL have a variable-ratio steering setup (similar to 997TT's...and unlike 996TTS), which, if true, requires some mental calibration to adjust to its nonlinear nuances....e.g., I believe Ferrari 599/Scud still have the linear steering setup....
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F10 M5, 08 S63 Majestic Black Metallic, 09 CLK63, silver
Thanks, everyone!
WSH, I remember now, the 750Li got a little tighter over first few months, same as my 2007 650i vert, my M6 has only 1k miles, so can't tell, but it's tightest steering of all for now, hope S63 will change a little like my 750 and 650.
WSH, I remember now, the 750Li got a little tighter over first few months, same as my 2007 650i vert, my M6 has only 1k miles, so can't tell, but it's tightest steering of all for now, hope S63 will change a little like my 750 and 650.
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2008 S63, 2007 Escalade, 2007 Avalanche, 2003 745LI, 2002 Escalade, 2004 Wrangler
I also switched from a 745Li to an S63
I was a little disapointed with the 63 at first, but now after 3000+ miles I love it. I find the steering to be precise especially at high speeds. It really seemed to adjust to my style of driving.
